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Stepdaughter and holiday

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Tinogirl · 07/04/2025 13:11

My stepdaughter has no interest in having a relationship with my daughter. There is 18 months between them.

She rarely stays with us so my husband takes her for a meal in the week and collects her from events/hobbies etc. He also stays with her at MiL’s every month or so.

She has been on holiday with us twice in 7 years on both occasions to The States. On the second occasion she refused to share a room with my daughter. When we go on holiday as a family husband will then take her on a separate holiday, on occasion they are joined by their extended family.

My daughter and I sometimes go away with my mother and sometimes we are joined by one of my brothers and his family, my husband doesn’t ever want to join us.

This year my daughter and I are going to see cousin in The States on our own and my husband and I are going away again to The States on our own. This is being tacked onto a work trip. Stepdaughter wants to come on this trip. I have said no but husband says she can come. It will be a rare opportunity for us to be together and the dynamic will change if she is there. I would also then feel guilty about my daughter. Husband argues that my daughter will be at school but stepdaughter has longer holidays.

Stepdaughter’s mother has said that if she can’t go with us just because my daughter isn’t there it will look as if we only invite her to be a babysitter for my daughter. That has never been the case.

Step-daughter has many holidays and enjoys quite a privileged life with her mother.

OP posts:
ButterCrackers · 08/04/2025 21:37

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 08/04/2025 21:29

Why would she have to look after dsd? Why would her dh be working?

it’s her work trip. She should be focussing on work and absolutely not looking after child.

bringing a child on a work trip would be highly frowned upon in my industry. It’s work. Not a holiday.

I read it that it was the dh who would be working because it’s asked that his daughter comes along.
if it’s the op working then it’s even more outrageous that the ex of her dh would want the dd/dsd to tag along on the work trip of her ex dh partner.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 08/04/2025 21:29

ButterCrackers · 08/04/2025 21:02

How selfish she and her mother are. This is a holiday for you and dh before or after a work obligation. Would you have to look after your dsd whilst your dh is working? Tell them no. She can go on holiday with her mother - but the mother would have to pay or does your dh pay for everything?

Why would she have to look after dsd? Why would her dh be working?

it’s her work trip. She should be focussing on work and absolutely not looking after child.

bringing a child on a work trip would be highly frowned upon in my industry. It’s work. Not a holiday.

Dogsbreath7 · 08/04/2025 21:23

Don’t make this about your DD. It was meant to be a couple holiday now it isn’t. So if it’s family your DD is your family. Ex is only getting involved because she wants child care. He needs to disinvite or you tell him he goes with her alone.

You can’t force kids to play happy families and as long as both DDs are civil that’s fine. Keep doing what you are doing. You each have DD sole holidays then one family holiday OR couple only. He changed the rules.

ButterCrackers · 08/04/2025 21:02

How selfish she and her mother are. This is a holiday for you and dh before or after a work obligation. Would you have to look after your dsd whilst your dh is working? Tell them no. She can go on holiday with her mother - but the mother would have to pay or does your dh pay for everything?

ThistleTits · 08/04/2025 20:58

Tinogirl · 07/04/2025 13:40

The girls are 11 and 13, we have no joint children.

My stepdaughter goes away a lot with her mother and is given every opportunity to come with us but chooses not to come. As a result my husband takes her away in his own. I resent the fact that she now thinks she can come as the destination suits and my daughter won’t be there. .

The trip I am going on with my daughter is a one off.

I have to go on the trip in October for work and want a couple’s holiday afterwards, just the two of us. I have told my DH this but he is delighted his child wants to come.

Your husband can stay home with his daughter and you can have a nice relaxing solo holiday 😎.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 08/04/2025 19:44

SD doesn’t have to like your DD or build a relationship with her. It’s not her choice to have a blended family. I assume DH lives with you and your DD so your DD gets SDs dad with her much of the time? Imagine how that feels for SD at 13, envious, feeling rejected and replaced etc.

Your DH shouldn’t be inviting children (any) to your adult holiday without discussion and agreement with you.

SD is not the issue here DH is.

GoldGuide · 08/04/2025 19:39

Your work trip. Don't forget the option to have a solo trip without your husband or DSD after the work part.

I wouldn't want to go without my own DD in your situation too.

Outofthepan · 08/04/2025 19:31

Tinogirl · 08/04/2025 18:52

It’s indifference rather than hatred.

My husband knows I am disappointed but he is just so delighted she wants to come.

But it’s your trip?

Why do they get to decide who comes?

Its doing her a disservice too: terrible life lesson

Mix56 · 08/04/2025 19:21

This should have been the perfect opportunity for H, to say to SD, that she cant go, she vetos all the family, “adult & children” holidays, & has decided to muscle in on an extended adult work trip.

UndermyShoeJoe · 08/04/2025 19:08

Vivi0 · 08/04/2025 19:06

He may be delighted, but she wasn’t invited.

You and your daughter aren’t invited on plenty of the trips he takes. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t acquiesce on you inviting yourself and your daughter along on one of his trips with SD and his extended family, despite how delighted it would make you and your daughter feel to be included.

Edited

Makes you wonder why he married….

Vivi0 · 08/04/2025 19:06

Tinogirl · 08/04/2025 18:52

It’s indifference rather than hatred.

My husband knows I am disappointed but he is just so delighted she wants to come.

He may be delighted, but she wasn’t invited.

You and your daughter aren’t invited on plenty of the trips he takes. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t acquiesce on you inviting yourself and your daughter along on one of his trips with SD and his extended family, despite how delighted it would make you and your daughter feel to be included.

Flutterbyby · 08/04/2025 19:01

Curlycurio · 08/04/2025 18:26

@Flutterbyby also, what about the feelings of the child who does not get holidays with her own father ever, who has a step sister who isn't interested in her, has a stepdad who doesn't want to holiday with her family, whose mum, stepdad and stepsister then go away on holiday together leaving her in school?

There is more than one child here with feelings and a father they don't live with.

Edited

That's also a problem. Which is why these two people obviously shouldn't have got married.

So many parents put themselves first and make their children very unhappy, convincing themselves they have a blended family when what they really have is unhappy children who have no choices.

Vivi0 · 08/04/2025 18:53

UndermyShoeJoe · 08/04/2025 18:40

I wouldn’t have married a man whose daughter hated my child and barely tolerated me. Much like his family who seem at best indifferent to the op.

Nobody thought of either of the children.

In the absence of a time machine, there is not much the OP can do about that.

But in the present, the OP absolutely can start to put her daughter first.

Making clear that her husband’s daughter isn’t invited on her business trip and therefore isn’t coming, would be a good start.

Tinogirl · 08/04/2025 18:52

It’s indifference rather than hatred.

My husband knows I am disappointed but he is just so delighted she wants to come.

OP posts:
UndermyShoeJoe · 08/04/2025 18:40

Vivi0 · 08/04/2025 18:27

OP, your daughter comes first.

Would I fuck be taking anyone who disliked my child to the extent they actively avoided and excluded them, along on my business trip to have a good time.

I wouldn’t have married a man whose daughter hated my child and barely tolerated me. Much like his family who seem at best indifferent to the op.

Nobody thought of either of the children.

Vivi0 · 08/04/2025 18:27

OP, your daughter comes first.

Would I fuck be taking anyone who disliked my child to the extent they actively avoided and excluded them, along on my business trip to have a good time.

Curlycurio · 08/04/2025 18:26

@Flutterbyby also, what about the feelings of the child who does not get holidays with her own father ever, who has a step sister who isn't interested in her, has a stepdad who doesn't want to holiday with her family, whose mum, stepdad and stepsister then go away on holiday together leaving her in school?

There is more than one child here with feelings and a father they don't live with.

MellowPinkDeer · 08/04/2025 18:18

@Tinogirl now I’m more concerned you don’t seem to have the ability to stand up to your husband? I can’t get over their entitlement just because this time it suits her to gatecrash. Nope.

Snakebite61 · 08/04/2025 18:16

Tinogirl · 07/04/2025 13:11

My stepdaughter has no interest in having a relationship with my daughter. There is 18 months between them.

She rarely stays with us so my husband takes her for a meal in the week and collects her from events/hobbies etc. He also stays with her at MiL’s every month or so.

She has been on holiday with us twice in 7 years on both occasions to The States. On the second occasion she refused to share a room with my daughter. When we go on holiday as a family husband will then take her on a separate holiday, on occasion they are joined by their extended family.

My daughter and I sometimes go away with my mother and sometimes we are joined by one of my brothers and his family, my husband doesn’t ever want to join us.

This year my daughter and I are going to see cousin in The States on our own and my husband and I are going away again to The States on our own. This is being tacked onto a work trip. Stepdaughter wants to come on this trip. I have said no but husband says she can come. It will be a rare opportunity for us to be together and the dynamic will change if she is there. I would also then feel guilty about my daughter. Husband argues that my daughter will be at school but stepdaughter has longer holidays.

Stepdaughter’s mother has said that if she can’t go with us just because my daughter isn’t there it will look as if we only invite her to be a babysitter for my daughter. That has never been the case.

Step-daughter has many holidays and enjoys quite a privileged life with her mother.

I'd be more worried about going to trumpland than anything else.

Curlycurio · 08/04/2025 18:14

Flutterbyby · 08/04/2025 17:20

These posts about blame are so missing the point. It does not matter who left who or whether they ever lived together at all its irrelevant. That's about the adults and their choices.

Stop being so selfish and try and see it from a young child's point of view: my dad lives full time with that girl and not with me. She gets my dad, and I don't.

DSD holidays separately with her dad though, and her mum, and is invited on family holidays with OP, DD and DH.

This was OP's work trip she extended to have a holiday with her DH while her child is in school.

Sounds like DSD wants to go to the states and DH has jumped at it without thinking of OP or her DD, who they can't invite.

It sounds like DSD and DH are the only people allowed to have choice here.

Aweecupofteaandabiscuit · 08/04/2025 18:08

Tinogirl · 08/04/2025 16:18

Watermill

Looks like it.

I am hoping something better comes along for her between now and then.

Why though?
From your posts it looks like you haven’t at any point stated to your DH “it will be just us or just me, DSD can’t come this time”.
Are you afraid of being honest with him?

MissUltraViolet · 08/04/2025 17:32

It all sounds so messed up and disjointed instead of anything that looks like it will ever be remotely like any kind of supportive family unit.

DSD clearly doesn’t like you much and has a stronger dislike for your daughter. Your husband refuses to go anywhere with your family. You presumably do nothing with his family due to DSD refusing to be in your daughter’s presence.

Holiday aside, what’s the end goal here? This will likely get a whole lot worse as these girls get older.

UndermyShoeJoe · 08/04/2025 17:25

Regardless for the daughter her dad however she was conceived lives with another child a bit younger than her full time while she gets visits. Of course she prefers her one on one time when she can.

This family are not blended at all really from ops own posting history.

Flutterbyby · 08/04/2025 17:20

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 08/04/2025 16:52

so it’s dad’s fault no matter the circumstance? And he has to go above and beyond to make it up to the child?

where’s the mothers responsibility to make it up to a child if she caused the split?

if this is the child’s thinking someone needs to sit down with her and explain exactly who caused the split.

it’s not fair to let a child believe her dad has chosen to abandon her when he hasn’t.

no wonder so many dads struggle to maintain a relationship when children are conditioned to believe dad always left them.

change the child’s perspective. Don’t just pander to some implication that dads always choose to leave their children.

Edited

These posts about blame are so missing the point. It does not matter who left who or whether they ever lived together at all its irrelevant. That's about the adults and their choices.

Stop being so selfish and try and see it from a young child's point of view: my dad lives full time with that girl and not with me. She gets my dad, and I don't.

Flutterbyby · 08/04/2025 17:18

Tinogirl · 08/04/2025 16:56

DH was not in a relationship with DSD’s mother and has never lived with her. They are excellent Co parents and he completely adores her as does his family.

DSD has a very good life.

But she still has to accept he lives full time with a daughter but sees her very part time.

What are you not getting?