To ask if you'd buy an electric or petrol car in these circumstances?

I have an electric car - if you pay attention to your battery levels and find charging points before you travel you are no more likely to get stuck down a country lane without power than you are to run out of petrol. I have a charger at home, and know where the chargers in my local area are. If I go long distance I do some planning. It’s not complicated

Stand by being wrong, depsite people pointing to actual evidence to the contrary.

Funny watching those cling to the past!

Imagine there were Edwardians adamant that the coach and horses would remain the best option and these new fangled “motor cars” would never catch on and anyway caused accidents 😀

The debate will be ended within a decade due to :

More chargers.

Solid state batteries these will produce cars with longer range (maybe double the current ones) that are lighter and more rapid to charge (charging time will become dependent on the charging power available rather than the batteries ability to charge). Better temperature performance. Even afer and less prone to fire and more stable in an accident.

These batteries are being tested now and the first cars using them will be released in the next few years.

ICE will go the way of the steam train.

If someone I know gets a new petrol/diesel car my first reaction is never "oooh, I could never buy an ICE car, because <shite reasons with no basis in fact>"
Because that would be rude but so many people feel obliged to share their opnion on EV's with me

I don't know why so many petrol drivers are so keen to tell us how crap EVs are. I love my EV. I was spending over £300 a month on petrol and now I spend approx £20 charging. Works for me!

In 8 years of driving EVs nothing has gone wrong with mine (which wasn’t of my own making). I sold my first EV when it was 5 years old for more than the balance on the finance, during the last petrol crisis. My personal experience has been wholly positive.
Glad you have your own diesel supply, obviously that affects your personal views.

Nope. I have my own business where diesel is delivered to my own diesel pump. I’ll be just fine.

You realise that when anything goes wrong on your electric vehicle your bill will be more than it’s worth.

For example, we picked up a Zoe from the main dealer last week as the repair bill was going to be £7000. It went back on the owners drive. She owes £9k on finance. The car is worth £10k on a good day. She can’t afford to fix it. It’s 4 years old and worth part money. Sadly this isn’t a one off.

I think the daily Mail have run an anti EV agenda for a while and some have gone along with that.

Exactly
I love my EV and when anyone asks whether they should get one I list the reasons why I like it. It baffles me that in any discussion about them non EV owners trip over themselves to list the reasons why they are a VERY BAD IDEA
EV owners don't do the same for petrol/diesel cars

Ok, apologies, I missed that you did mention flatbed trucks.

But my point still stands, that it is so vanishingly unlikely that an EV will run out of battery in the first place.

I have a 7yr old mini countryman hybrid. It’s great, I have enough electric to do short local trips and petrol for longer ones. I would go hybrid again as I am not convinced fully electric would work for me

Not selectively quoting at all.

I responded only to the points you made. At no point did I say that EVs cannot be rescued.

I even stated (requireds flatbed) in my post at 0921 🙄🤦‍♂️

You're the one selectively quoting me - and getting it wrong now I've called you out on it.

"you seem determined to put everyone else off them as well"

LOL, excluding this post, I've posted three times in a thread containing at least 170+ posts, less than 2% of the total. 😂🤦‍♂️

I’ve been driving EVs for 8 years including some very long journeys to Europe & back in sub-zero temperatures with the heating on.
The infrastructure is getting much better.
I’ve never run out of battery and only had to wait for a free charger a handful of times, and never more than 10 minutes.
Mostly I charge at home on my Octopus EV tariff which costs about £5 to do a 200-mile journey.
Second hand EVs are very cheap at the moment too.

Also, you seem to be selectively quoting to fit your narrative. You have conveniently missed out the last sentence of the article you link to:

”Rest assured, you won’t be stranded if you ever need to tow your EV! An electric car can still be moved by a flatbed tow truck in the unlikely event that you can’t drive it at all.”

You don’t like EVs. Fine. But you seem determined to put everyone else off them as well, which is just a bit strange. I prefer to drive an EV to an ICE car nowadays, but I don’t go around slagging off petrol cars or posting crap about them.

No your point was, and I quote:

"so why are you not similarly worried about petrol cars running out of fuel when stuck in the same traffic jam"

The reason why petrol powered car owners are not worried is because the solution to their running out of fuel is almost instantly solved.

Something NO EV can match.

Plus in London and Bristol it’s £12 a day charge and we go to both those places quite regularly.

Definitely electric. Love ours. We can’t charge at home either. You just make it work. I do a lot of city driving really bad air quality where we live I felt guilty driving round in a polluting car.

You realise you’ll find it increasingly hard to find a petrol station when most people have switched to EVs?

Yes, I know this about EVs and towing.

I was really trying to make the point that they are no more likely to run out of battery in a traffic jam than an ICE car is to run out of petrol 🤷‍♀️

A lot of wealthy people I know do drive EVs and not enough Politicians doing something sounds like an argument to do that exact thing.
There is very little logic to the anti EV rhetoric so people throw out misinformation or overly dramatic nonsense.

@RockaLock

"so why are you not similarly worried about petrol cars running out of fuel when stuck in the same traffic jam"

Unlike an EV, which cant be towed (requires flatbed), a normal petrol/diesel can be towed if necessary - or better yet - be refuelled at the side of the road in seconds and be on their merry way again.

NO EV can be recharged in seconds at the side of the road. NONE.

And in case you think I am lying about EVs and towing (plenty of Google items on this as well):

https://pod-point.com/guides/your-guide-to-towing-with-an-ev

"Unfortunately, it’s not possible to tow an EV with another car. Unlike a manual combustion engine car, electric cars have no gearbox and no true neutral gear that disengages the transmission. The same applies to automatic petrol and diesel cars.

If you attempt to move an EV using a towbar and have it roll on its wheels, you’re likely to cause damage to the battery and wider electric system."

Similar to @Sw1989 as we have a diesel that we intend to run for another few years (only change car when it is becoming a problem). We don’t drive much in London, but do visit elderly parents c200 miles away and travel abroad (journey of 700 miles that we do in one day). By the time we change the car I’m sure tech and infrastructure means electric is the obvious choice for us.

In your current circumstances if you do mainly city and town journeys then an electric would make sense, but if you are worried about the range and circumstances change, what about a plug in hybrid as a compromise? The range is really good on them these days. Much that id like an electric car, it wouldn't work for me as I regularly do 200+ mile journeys, trips abroad and around 18000 miles a year, so still have a diesel car, but our next car will almost definitely be a hybrid and would certainly consider electric if mileage dropped and circumstances changed.

I’m really enjoying hybrids tbh. (Mine is not a plug in)