To ask a parent to move their buggy from a café so I can sit down?

I wouldn’t want to share a table with a mum and babies - no matter how nice/cute they are - so would have loooked for another cafe.

Oh come on, counting the baby in a pram as the second person at a table is a bit of a stretch.

Having said that, I'd never ask to share a two person table (way too intimate) and the done thing would really be to ask whether you could sit at their table.

If the child is in the pram and the child is not an older child - such as a disabled child in a larger pushchair or a child that will sit in a high chair or on the seat - then the carer should move the pram to enable access to the seat. It’s basic manners and it’s what I see in cafes. People are accommodating- I would welcome a carer/parent with their child/ren to share my table - as I would anyone who needs a seat.

And I’d have said no. 😁

how is she going to fold the pram (two handed job) if she has a baby to hold? You think she could have folded it up? Maybe she can’t? Maybe the basket underneath was full of stuff making it impossible. Maybe she has a health condition preventing her from doing it which she doesn’t have to divulge. Maybe she just didn’t want to share her table. If she moves the pram away from the table someone else will complain it’s in the way. Or her baby gets cranky and wants to nap in the pram and now she can’t use it. 🤷‍♀️

She asked her to move her pram which, as the baby was presumably in the pram, meant move your baby and all of the other paraphernalia. Maybe baby was content in the pram. When my DD was little, she was a nightmare in a high chair and sitting in a cafe with her in the pram was a way for me to be able to drink a hot drink and have a break. Also where would the pram have been moved to in a busy cafe? And why should the mother and baby be inconvenienced? The woman was under no obligation to share the table she occupied.

This thread is wild.

I also don’t understand why people think you could just collapse a pram.

If the baby wasn’t in the pram it would be in a highchair taking up a chair space.

A folded up pram usually still takes up loads of room with the changing bag etc. Mine does anyway.

This isn’t what happened. Are you off your meds?

There are no tables free. Having a disability doesn’t entitle you to claim someone’s table.

I wouldn’t want to share my table for two, (being used by 2 people) with a third stranger, no. Wheelchair or not.

She said she didn't demand - she asked.

Fancy that - you’d block a chair space to prevent a wheelchair user from being able to access a table. Have a think about that.

Tbh if you’d asked I would have said no too, the baby is irrelevant, at the end of the day she was there first whether or not she was at a table for 2. Perhaps that’s all that was available when she arrived…. There’s no expectation to share a table with a stranger. It’s always been first come first serve, I personally wouldn’t even entertain the idea of asking a stranger to sit at a table they were occupying. Not to mention to a lot of people it’s awkward.

My thoughts are that there clearly aren’t any bloody tables spare so why is the person being asked to move up a lone woman with a baby and all the stuff being out with a baby entails.

Unless it’s beer hall style dining, it’s rude. You can be in a wheelchair with manners (my relatives certainly manage). OP is neither though so it’s irrelevant. My point stands. You wouldn’t ask a person in a wheelchair to move so you can join their friend at a 2 person table, so don’t ask someone who has a child with them.

OP she was a lot more polite with you than I would have been.

Being in a wheelchair wouldn’t entitle the person to share the table though. The pram wasn’t preventing the op / hypothetical wheelchair user from accessing an empty table. It was preventing them from joining the lady and her baby.

Well that escalated quickly! 🙈😂😂😂

What a strange response purely because people disagree and are saying shes BU 😂

So what are your thoughts?

I read it just fine.

Read again - The person in the wheelchair asks for the PRAM to be moved. Whatcha think?

I think you were very unreasonable and I’ve just had a jolly good fuck 😂

Even if you said ‘please can you move your pram so I can sit down’, it’s still rude. It’s pressuring her to move the buggy.

where was the baby at this point? Presumably in the buggy as you say you didn’t see how old they were and they weren’t already in a highchair. Sometimes it’s easier to keep a baby in a buggy if they are settled. Did you ask with aim to disturb the baby too?

where could she move the buggy to if it was busy? Half way across the cafe, making it difficult for her? It doesn’t sound like she was taking up excessive space.

You should’ve found somewhere else imo and not ordered anything if there was no space for you

What’s wrong with you, sounds like you’re the one not getting a good fuck!

Would you think it was ok to ask for a person in a wheelchair to be moved?

If a person was in a wheelchair would you think it ok for that person to ask for the pram to be moved?

She didn't ask anyone to "shove their baby" out of the way.

It's not entitled to ask someone to create space if they are taking up space unecessarily.
That applies in a cafe, just as it does in a bus or anywhere else for that matter.

OP for me there isn't really enough information in your original post to make a call.

Your knickers are tucked into your skirt.