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To have cut off my friend who stayed in an abusive marriage

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TheIvyRestaurant · 06/04/2025 15:28

I had a friend, let’s call her Kate - she met a man about 12 years ago and got pregnant very quickly, after 3 months. They decided to make a go of it, and from about mid-way through her pregnancy I noticed his red flag behaviour. Then things got worse when she had the baby and he moved in. They then had another DD about 2 years later and they got married a few years after that. I could give hundreds of examples of how he was emotionally abusive but here are a few:

  • Kate was “allowed” to come out for drinks with me (I eventually was her only friend as he alienated her from so many people) but only during the day - she had to be back at 6pm so she could do bedtime as he couldn’t cope apparently. I’m not talking babies - this is when their DDs were 6 and 8. One night we were having so much fun we lost track of time and realised it was 6.15pm. She had 9 texts from him saying she had “failed at her task” and “failed as a parent” because “you know that I can’t do bedtimes so the girls are now going to be up really late thanks to you putting yourself first”.
  • She had to go term time only at work because he can’t look after his own children for full days while she works, it triggers his PTSD. Meaning she had a lot less money. He also insisted on keeping their finances seperate, so whilst he stayed full time and would buy £900 TVs and an e scooter, she would have to forgo buying lunch at work because her salary dropped so much.
  • During lockdown, things ramped up - he was beyond nasty and would text her from other rooms of the house saying “Tell those kids to STFU before lose my shit at you all” and “Can you put some clothes on, it makes me want to vomit seeing you in pyjamas during the day” and “You’d better be doing home schooling with them, if they’re then out to be thick kids it will be your fault”. He couldn’t home schooling apparently, it triggered his PTAD. She would text me these screenshots on a daily basis.
  • One time we went to a local concert, and she decided she’d stay out for a drink after and stand up to him. He wasn’t happy and was demanding she come home but she put her phone in her bag. A few hours later, she checked her phone to find 67 missed calls and the ring doorbell showed paramedics at their door. He called 999 saying he thinks he has sepsis. He didn’t, and they soon left. But he spent months saying the stress she caused by staying out brought on sepsis like symptoms.
  • He’d really have a go at her parenting. All the time. She’s an AMAZING mum, but if she didn’t have things 100% organised (like literally every mum on the planet) he’d go nuts. I was round once and he said “The girls want to go in the garden where are their hats?”. Because she didn’t instantly know and had to look in various cupboards and coat pockets, he really went at her saying “Smart mother you are - don’t even know where their clothes are”. I pointed out “Well neither do you” and the look her gave me terrified me to the point I left after that.
  • Me and her went away with all our kids to a theme park hotel for the night and he was texting her having a go about her parenting - the kids weren’t even there! He’s obsessed with her “failing”. “I gave you a new routine and you failed at it. You left the house 15 minutes after we agreed. FAILED”.
  • Her DDs eventually started treating her like shit. If they wanted her from another room they’d shout “Kate! Get here RIGHT NOW”. She said it’s because that’s how her DH speaks to her and they were copying

I spent a lot of personal time and energy worrying about my friend. I told her from early on to leave him, not to marry him, that’s she can do better and she’s a shell of her former self. Eventually, after another text simply saying “Guess what your latest fail has been? Go on take a guess.” (she forgot to turn the dishwasher on and he had nothing to eat his food on which apparently triggered his PTSD) she told me she wants to leave him. I supported her for the next 3 months. I did all sorts - looked around rentals on her behalf (he was NEVER gonna leave the house of his own accord and she didn’t want police involvement). Researched cheap items to but for a new kitchen. Researched women’s groups and charities that support single mums. Spent hours pouring over her rights and how to claim maintenance and the pitfalls she might encounter. Researching the cheapest forms of divorce. None of this she could do herself in case he checked her phone or caught her.

I did it to the detriment of spending time with my own kids and DH. My DH at this point was supportive but said i was too involved and it’s not my job, and pointed out my friend would post “we are such a happy family” type posts on social media and he assured me “she’s never gonna leave him you’re wasting your time”. We once fell out about it. But I persevered and was determined to get her out of there.

My uncle is a landlord and I asked him a favour to rent her a 2 bed property for a while at a cheap rate until she could find something more suitable. He agreed, letting down the person he promised it to. I was grateful and my friend was delighted she had a place to escape to.

A week before she was due to move in (she’d signed a tenancy agreement) she asked to meet me for lunch. She told me that I had been encouraging her to leave her husband for too long, pushing her into doing it and she didn’t like it and I was to stop. Because she loved him and wasn’t leaving. I asked her if her DH was making her say these things and she said “no”. I’m not sure if this is true. She said we can still be friends but I have to stop this “vendetta” against her DH.

A few days later, still heartbroken, I decided I’d had enough and her marriage had imposed too much on my own life. With DH’s support I texted her to say I couldn’t be her friend anymore. She had gaslighted me, and taken me for granted and she was on her own. I then blocked her on everything and haven’t seen her since. Luckily my uncle was v understanding and didn’t pursue her for her contractual obligations.

That was 3 years ago. I don’t talk about it because I feel so bruised emotionally from it and I tell people we drifted apart. We then moved away shortly after that (for different reasons) which made the cut-off easier.

Anyway caught up with my mum today and she said “You haven’t spoken about Kate in ages. You used to mention her all the time”. I told her the whole story.

I’ve come away feeling sick with guilt. My mum made me feel really awful - said I shouldn’t have given up on my friend and I should have bided my time before bringing it up again. That “That poor woman and those 2 girls are stuck with that vile man and you’re doing nothing about it”. My mum was in an abusive marriage (albeit a violent one as well) and said “so called friends like me” who bolted when her stories became too much are people she will never forgive or forget. That of you know bad things are happening it’s your obligation to stop them, and I gave up too soon.

FWIW. DH looks now and again on social media and Kate and her DH are still together.

I now feel so guilty and confused and second guessing my decision I was otherwise so sure about for 3 years. Please tell me MN honestly - WIBU to cut Kate off? Should I try and reach out to her? My mum gave me a new perspective and I honestly feel sick with what I did.

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Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 06/04/2025 15:46

I'm out of my abusive marriage now and I have often thanked my family and friends for never giving up on me.

It takes women years and many attempts to leave.

musicforthesoul · 06/04/2025 15:46

You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved.

It is sad, and I know it quite often takes someone being abused multiple times before they leave, but the impact it has on friends/family who are trying to help to watch someone go back again and again often gets downplayed I think.

In an ideal world maybe you could have taken a step back but remained friends, but that doesn't mean what you did was wrong. It is fine to put yourself first when the personal costs get too high.

AluckyEllie · 06/04/2025 15:45

I think you acted admirably and went above and beyond to try and help her. She is the one failing her children, not you (I get that she is very much a victim too.) You did the right thing cutting her off, it would be so draining and soul destroying to watch her life unfold as it will with him. Unfortunately you can’t help everyone and you tried more than many of us would, you should be proud of that.

deeahgwitch · 06/04/2025 15:44

You did all you could to help your friend.
Perhaps her husband intercepted your messages to her and all hell broke loose and it wasn’t worth the hassle for her to leave then so you got the flak with the wording instigated by him.
The messenger got shot.
You led the horse to water as it were but she wouldn’t drink.
What more could you have done @TheIvyRestaurant ?
You were a good friend.

I hope some day your friend breaks free.

OliphantJones · 06/04/2025 15:43

This is quite tricky. I think I would have done everything that you did but I wouldn’t have blocked her, nor made it so final. I would have said I can’t be your friend right now because I will never support this relationship you have but if you ever do want to leave and need help to do so I will be there, but you have to be the one to contact me. Or something like that.
I don’t think you need to feel guilty though. You did more than most would have and to the detriment of your family.

ViaBlue · 06/04/2025 15:41

You did the right thing. All your friend was doing was offloading on you emotionally, just using you..she had no intention to do anything about her sitiation and doesn't care how much she has put on you..

She is not your responsibility.
And your mother is wrong. Maybe projecting as doesn't want to take responsibility and admit her own role in staying in her abusive marriage.

You really did the only right thing for you. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. You need to protect yourself.

Streaaa · 06/04/2025 15:38

You were an incredible friend who did so much for her, beyond what most would do.
Your mother is a very nasty woman to say that to you.
Step back from her too, take real space from her.
What was your childhood like?
I suspect you have had a very hard time.
Time to put yourself firmly first.

Changethenamey · 06/04/2025 15:37

I also withdrew from a close friendship because I spent so many hours trying to help her and listening to her awful stories for her to then go back to her nasty alcoholic husband. I was going through my own relationship breakdown and honestly it just got too much. It was hurting me to watch her go through the same thing over and over. It might be selfish but I had to put myself first in the end.

Sometimes you just can’t save them and it hurts for everyone involved 😔

MaMaMaMaBaker · 06/04/2025 15:36

Ah, this is a really difficult one. On the one hand, she obviously badly needed you, whether she managed to overcome her H or not. On the other, it's not fair on you to pump endless energy into the situation.

I have voted YABU, only because I would have stayed friends with her. At least, I think I would. But I don't judge you at all for feeling like it was too much for you to continue to support her. It's easy for me to say I wouldn't cut a friend off in these circumstances, but I haven't actually tried doing it.

I hope you manage to find peace here. It is not unreasonable to look after yourself first.

LighthouseTeaCup · 06/04/2025 15:35

You can only help people who want to be helped.

rubyslippers · 06/04/2025 15:30

You have gone over and above consistently
you are not responsible for your friend or her behaviour
the minute it was to the detriment of your own family was the minute you should have drawn boundaries
you cannot save your friend