To think these people don’t have autism

Why couldn't autistic people be like that?

Yes, you can get nasty autistic people, they are not dissimilar to neurological people.

I hate being told that if I struggle to meet people and make friends then I just need to go to an autism focused group. It is like it is assumed we will all just get along because we share a diagnosis. That is totally untrue.
I have friends that are NT and have had awful fall outs with ND people.

Elon Musk isn’t exactly a walk in the park.

I had a whole thread about my ex that went on for a long time. She was categorically the worst person I've ever encountered 🤣

I'm not saying thus is because she was autistic of course, however she was autistic and also happened to be a selfish ignorant oik.

She did use her ASD as an excuse for a lot of things however. 'Well I don't think like that' or 'I didn't mean to do (awful thing) I just can't help it because I have autism so I didn't realise it was awful'....or 'sorry I left you to deal with (awful situation she caused) by yourself, I have autism so I couldn't handle it'.

As others have said, being autisic doesn't mean you can't also be an asshole.

I would bear in mind that groups have identities.

People like you who don’t backstab and bitch don’t stay in the groups who do, so that behaviour is perpetuated in that group.

It may well be that individually they are lovely, but the ‘rule’ for the group is to snipe and mock - so they do. Perhaps exaggerated by a desire to fit in to that group.

I’ve noticed that when I tried to fit in as a teen, I would often be called out for being mean. Somehow I was missing what was and what wasn’t acceptable humour/mockery. I’m now a bit po-faced and find lots of humour offensive 🤣.

Your AIBU has been comprehensively answered at least.

Of course autistic people can be nasty. What sort of a question is that?

They're people, like any others.

I have a lovely ND son and a daughter currently being assessed. Both are good kind young people. However as is the case with all humans, you get horrible ND people too. I can think of a few who I would avoid like the plague. You just happen to have found a congregation of idiots, autistic or not. Find yourself another group if you can.

We (autistic people) can be just as horrid, or manipulative, or racist, otherwise bigoted, or awful as NTs.

We can gossip, judge, whatever.

We are still humans, we just have psychoneurological differences

Yes, this is true. I notice that on FB mostly. Also the whole ND vs NT thing. You see someone ND proclaim they hate NT people because of various reasons which is nothing to do with being ND or NT and is just someone's personality.

YABU someone can be autistic and also be a total asshole. It sounds like this group is full of them.
I hope you find something else and meet some nicer people.

That’s because nowadays online certain communities act like being ND means you have no other human, mundane faults.

Most people gossip. ND or not.

Why do you appear to think autistic people can't be arseholes? 😳

Weird.

Autism has nothing to do with being nice.

YABU.

Autistic people can be/do ANYTHING.

Regardless of autism, these people are twats.

You're best off out of that, OP.

I went to school/ college with a lot of nd people (specialist school) and yes, bullying was rife and some were very nasty. I don’t think I have autism (I have severe OCD and social phobia though) but most of my good friends have. I think I get where you are coming from because often when I meet someone who is autistic, I notice a big sense of relief when I realise how straightforward they will be to get along with. They generally don’t do things like start conversations with you, act friendly then complain behind your back that you keep talking to them even though they don’t want you to, for example. They are the people I like being with best because there’s no double meanings, if you don’t want to talk there are comfortable silences, and just being able to be yourself. I am wary of everyone at first. After I have gotten to know someone and I trust them, I know they are easy to be with and talk to, and are just sort of on my wavelength, in my head I call them “safe people” - they are usually nd. But I have also known people on the spectrum who are very, very “unsafe” and they can be way worse than nt people occasionally. So, yes the people you describe could be nd imo but at the same time I get why you ask. Equally they may not be nd at all. Best to stay away from them anyway. They sound horrible x

I have a friend who hurt me deeply - lived with me for 18 months, made fun of my weight and my inability to understand intellectually stimulating conversations 😆, was generally horrible to me and took advantage of the free accommodation I was providing to her. She is autistic. She hid behind her diagnosis and blamed many of her traits on it, like being “brutally honest”. So yes, autistic people can be horrible just like neurotypicals.

I agree. Let’s face it. Autistic people aren’t ‘normal’ because ‘normal’ is considered to be neurotypical. Anyone with a diagnosis of autism is therefore not ‘normal’.

If I were ‘normal’ I wouldn’t have the many difficulties related to autism that I have.

yes normal people without a disability, as I said im autistic this is the language that I use, I cba with language policing report my post if it offends you.

I work with people with autism, many young who attend colleges specially for people with autism and other disabilities. The bullying is even worse than NT places for various reasons, particularly with social media.
On an individual basis most of them are so lovely though.

My ex was autistic and she was AWFUL!
If you're asking can autistic people be awful then yes they absolutely can. And they can also be lovely, and everything in between.

With this group it may be that insecurities (autism related or not) mean that one just leads and tbe others follow (with the conversation and interests etc)?

These people just aren't the group for you.

I'm not sure why you think any of that behaviour means they can't be autistic.

Like neurotypical people, autistic people come in all shapes and sizes, with different personalities, interests, lifestyles, hobbies, senses of humour etc.

I'm autistic myself, by the way. They just sound like arseholes. It has nothing to do with the autism.

"normal people"?