To think children should be banned from long-haul flights in economy?

I actually find people on long haul flights much more tolerable than short haul.
We do London to Singapore quite regularly and everyone, adults and children always seem to behave well.
Short haul European flights, a large percentage of the passengers seem to be unable to act appropriately. Children shouting and screaming with iPads on loud and no headphones and adults drunk.

A child of any age has just as much right to travel as you. What if they have family at the other side of the world or need to travel for healthcare, should they be excluded then?
Children are also people who should not be excluded because people such as yourself seem to think they are subordinate to adults. Why should families pay more for flights in business ect just because some people presume when they see a small child they’ll be noisy?
I’ve had more long haul flights ruined by drunk/smelly/noisy adults than children.

I’ll take the noise so long as I have headphones. Seat kickers however, I’d only allow once. After that a flap would open.

Bore off. Long haul in economy is horrific. Am I fortunate to be able to do it? Yes, doesn’t make the experience any less shit though.

Yabu for the rage/clickbaity thread title

@OneGreenLeader Really then we should be having an area for “parents who don’t give a shit”. Let’s face it, kids kicking a seat more than once or twice is down to the parents not parenting. Hardly fair to lump all families together in this category when the vast majority wouldn’t allow their kids to behave like this.

I personally would pay considerably more for an economy flight where the seats didn’t recline and there was a zero alcohol policy (including prior to boarding 🫠). I’ve had plenty of flights where ive been surrounded by drunken idiots arguing the whole time! Would 10x rather have had kids being kids!

Yet ANOTHER goady thread by someone with a colour in their username. AIBU is becoming almost unreadable because of this. Reported.

everyone should have an equal right to travel, regardless of age. Children, after all, are part of the society too and deserve to have the same opportunities as adults. Everyone should be treated fairly, whether you’re a child or an adult.
so these post is utter nonsense and the OP needs to take her head for a wobble

I totally agree with the people on here saying badly behaved adults are just as annoying. The flight is just a means to get to a destination (and home again). I think we all ought to be tolerant enough to accept that occasionally, possibly due to tiredness, feeling uncomfortable/bored or having ear pressure issues, a child plays up on a flight.

Seriously, adult only flights to holiday destinations might push fares up for everybody whe they have already increased hugely. Maybe the solution is to introduce a higher child fare on term time flights, reducing the price differential between term-time and school holidays.

Children are part of life. Of course you're being unreasonable.

Economy is just a means of getting from A to B. No one is paying the money for the sheer joy of the flight, they’re paying to get somewhere. so no, no one should be banned. If you want to enjoy the journey then pay for first class.

I believe BA has age limits in First Class.
Fill your boots!

The RAF did this. Except, their definition of family included groups with dependent teens or guests.
Consequently the family area filled up on one flight we took before all the families with children boarded. (And children could only sit in certain seats). So we and another couple if families went in the "Soldier" area instead.
It was brilliant... that area was near silent, just a few mumours of chatter. (Soldiers like to sleep on long flights)

The "family" area was very noisy as all the children wound each other up.

I thought it was a bit of karma for those groups who had pushed past the families with young children to board first!

However on public flights, the most disruptive people are definitely drunk and obnoxious adults.

Mine does none of the things you mention. If anything, it seems often to be the adults that need to learn how to behave.

You can already pay for what you want via private hire.

I went to the States last year. A lifelong dream trip for a particular event. It was amazing from start to finish.

You need to re- evaluate what you think is ‘horrific’- your privilege is not pretty.

The last 2 long haul flights I was on last year, children I'd say ...1 was 6 months, other maybe a year old. Not a peep out of either of them for 13 hours. I was really impressed particularly as older one was on a parents lap the whole time...how exhausting for all of them
Younger child had a bassinet

On one holiday, the kid in front of us was scrambling about. Shouting, trying to climb over the seat back. The parents ignored the kid and had nothing to entertain him. It was a trying flight.

On the way back there was a toddler adjacent. The parents were so engaged and lovely. They had toys, colouring books etc. Did not have a moment's disruption.

You can't punish all families because of the shit parents.

Besides its not just economy, short haul business class I had two unattended kids behind me about 8 and 10. Fighting, shouting, kicking the seats. I thought they were travelling alone. No kids meals booked and the FAs had to be quite involved in explaining the food options to them.

They got steadily more disruptive and at hour 4 of the flight they were both lying down across the two seats and the divider section slapping, hair pulling etc shortly before descent, I turned round and firmly told them off. They then sat like angels till landing.

Their parents were seated together about 4 rows back. I had actually noticed them previously because they were drinking heavily and in the end the cabin crew handed over a bottle of champagne rather than run backwards and forwards with glass after glass.

Crap parents aren't confined to economy.

Have you ever actually encountered a child kicking a seat for 6 hours? Seems like a massive exaggeration to me. You sound miserable.

Can we have a booze free section of the plane so anyone who wants to drink can fuck off there?

Can we have a fat person section of the plane so I don't have to squeeze over to accommodate them encroaching on my space? We can weigh them too so I get cheaper tickets for my weight and luggage? Why should I pay their share of the fuel?

Can we have an intolerant person section of the plane where anyone with obnoxious views can sit so I don't have to listen to them for hours (including as a third party rather than participant)?

Have you ever actually encountered a child kicking a seat for 6 hours? Seems like a massive exaggeration to me. You sound miserable.

Well, that's an easy problem to solve. When it happened to me I 1. Turned around and gently asked the kid to stop kicking me. 2. Asked his mum to mind his feet when he did it again. Didn't have to go with 3. Tell the flight attendant because I think she didn't want me to turn around again.