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Am I greedy, or was my friend out of order?

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SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 08:36

Went out to dinner last night with a group friends (8 of us in total some single some with partners) all lovely, great to have a catch up. One of them, Milly, is a bit difficult at times, but she is part of the group and can be thoughtful and great fun. When it came to ordering puds some of the group got one, some didn’t, DH and I decided to get the sharing plate with 3 mini desserts. For clarity we always split the bill based on what we ordered. When our dessert was put down between DH and me with 2 spoons, Milly (who was sat next to us) said to the waitress “can we have another spoon please”. One for her to also tuck into our dessert. I was a bit shocked as this wasn’t discussed. Then cue Milly, who couldn’t reach the plate saying “oooh banoffee is my favourite dessert, I really love it…” I of course made sure I ate that up so she didn’t get a look in, but let her have some of the strawberry cheesecake which I wasn’t fussed on. I generally see myself as quite laid back but felt this behaviour was pretty outrageous and not on, but given she was so brash about it I wondered if maybe I was uptight and greedy?

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HellDorado · 06/04/2025 12:58

If this was Take A Break we'd be in for the twist ending, where it turns out dessert isn't all Milly helps herself to. The title would be something like "Love Rat Hubby Bonked My Best Friend!"

“So-called Friend Scoffed My Cheesecake - Then Snaffled My Man Too!”

TortolaParadise · 06/04/2025 12:55

SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 12:39

In adults??? I mean, in what universe it it usual for a grown adult to cry when someone says ‘You’ll need to order your own desert, Brenda’?

Edited

Yes in adults! Not necessarily about ordering desert but yes. - crying to manipulate a situation / play the victim / illicit sympathy / appear vulnerable in a situation / I could go on (but that would need a new post). 🙄

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/04/2025 12:49

And yeah, if she was banging on about how good something looked, the proper response is to say "Yeah, it's really good, why don't you order one? Grab the waitress next time she goes past."

What assertive adult gives in to another adult behaving like a kid? Come on, OP, get some backbone next time.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/04/2025 12:47

Teanbiscuits33 · 06/04/2025 08:55

Then therefore she was ignorant because she either does not understand the expected etiquette around other people’s food and can’t read cues, or she doesn’t care and therefore ignored any indication she was being rude.

You should have opened your mouth and said something, OP, I get that it might have felt awkward but something polite and to the point would have done. ‘’Sorry, there’s been a misunderstanding, I ordered this for me and DH, but I’m sure the waitress can take your order now if you fancy a dessert?’’

Yes. In this context, the friend was ignorant of etiquette.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/04/2025 12:46

Dawnchorussinging · 06/04/2025 08:42

I don't understand when she asked for the extra spoon why you just didn't make it clear the sharing plate was just for you and your DH.

Agreed. A sharing plate for a couple is one thing...but a friend randomly deciding to stick her spoon in there? Yeeeeeesh!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/04/2025 12:45

Just read the rest of your updates. The group sounds like they are still at school. She woould cry and others in the group would need to console her? 😆More fool them. It just needs others in the group to tell her to get a grip. The more people console her when she's manipulative the more people manipulative she will be. She'll always be the cause of problems in the group. Don't treat her like a child and maybe she will grow up...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/04/2025 12:45

She is clueless when it comes to other peoples feelings

But sensitive around her own, I think you said - quelle surprise Hmm

A quiet "No, this one's for OH and me" would have done it (no need for nastinesss) but if you're not prepared to say anything you'll just have to accept this will continue

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 06/04/2025 12:41

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 12:25

She asked for a spoon as the waitress was leaving immediately once the plates had been put down. Then started making comments about how tasty they looked, and multiple about how much she loves banoffee pie, and meaningful looks at me. She didn’t outright say “I expect you to share your pudding” but hinting was not at all subtle. She’s never been an upfront sort, at school she was the kind of person to be in a huff with you and “if you don’t know why then I’m not going to tell you”. I’m very used to how she communicates 😂 DH and I quietly agreed to let her finish the strawberry cheesecake to shut her up, it wasn’t horrid, but not the best - quite an artificial strawberry taste - I think she was a bit put out but could hardly complain that we had shared the wrong bit of our dessert with her.

What do you think would have happened if you had just completely ignored all her hints?

SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 12:39

TortolaParadise · 06/04/2025 12:35

Sadly, a common go to behavioural response in my experience!🙄

In adults??? I mean, in what universe it it usual for a grown adult to cry when someone says ‘You’ll need to order your own desert, Brenda’?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/04/2025 12:38

Jeez, where are people's communication skills these days? Does no-one talk about what desserts they're ordering when the menu comes?

I don't understand how this would happen.

Usual scenario would be:

Various people talking to group:

"I'm not having a dessert, I don't think."

"Ooh, look what they've got. i'm going to have the cheesecake."

"I can't manage a whole portion though. DH, they do a sharing plate, shall we get that between us?"
DH: "Ok, yeah, good idea."

Quite clear to all.

TortolaParadise · 06/04/2025 12:35

Rightsraptor · 06/04/2025 09:50

Her default manipulation strategy is crying??? Wow.

Avoid

Sadly, a common go to behavioural response in my experience!🙄

TortolaParadise · 06/04/2025 12:28

I really didn't want to deal with her crying - which very likely would have happened if she was called out even in the nicest way

Yes, what is it with these 'tears' from the instigator? Always blameless. 🙄
I notice this pattern of behaviour all the time.

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 12:25

Moonnstars · 06/04/2025 12:10

She got to the dessert when I move the plate for her to have some of the strawberry cheesecake (that DH & I weren't fond of).

When did she ask for the extra spoon? Had desserts already been brought out and she heard you comment that you don't like cheesecake?

It seems to me from this update she asked for an extra spoon and you then offered her your dessert as you had to move it to her. In which case this is on you and your DH. Surely even she wouldn't have leant across and just waved the spoon towards the dessert to get at it.

She asked for a spoon as the waitress was leaving immediately once the plates had been put down. Then started making comments about how tasty they looked, and multiple about how much she loves banoffee pie, and meaningful looks at me. She didn’t outright say “I expect you to share your pudding” but hinting was not at all subtle. She’s never been an upfront sort, at school she was the kind of person to be in a huff with you and “if you don’t know why then I’m not going to tell you”. I’m very used to how she communicates 😂 DH and I quietly agreed to let her finish the strawberry cheesecake to shut her up, it wasn’t horrid, but not the best - quite an artificial strawberry taste - I think she was a bit put out but could hardly complain that we had shared the wrong bit of our dessert with her.

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gunsnrosacea · 06/04/2025 12:22

ARainyNightInSoho · 06/04/2025 08:46

Ignorant = does not know something eg. I am ignorant about economics

It does not mean rude.

Yes it does

SnoopyPajamas · 06/04/2025 12:22

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 10:49

😂 I'm undecided if that is brilliant or the most offensive thing I've been told.

If this was Take A Break we'd be in for the twist ending, where it turns out dessert isn't all Milly helps herself to. The title would be something like "Love Rat Hubby Bonked My Best Friend!"

On the next page would be a crochet pattern and a grim story about someone's "Evil Dad" sexually abusing them. The sort of thing TAB thinks is perfect reading fodder to enjoy with a cup of tea and a biscuit, for some reason 🤔

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 06/04/2025 12:16

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 09:16

I quite agree, she is clueless when it comes to other peoples feelings. But when I was doubting if I was right, I really didn't want to deal with her crying - which very likely would have happened if she was called out even in the nicest way - and then have 2 of the other girls have to 'console' her. Even if I was in the right it's not the mood you want, I guess in the moment I decided the lesser evil was her getting some of the pud I didn't like.

I would let her cry. The only person she would be embarrassing is herself.

"If you like banoffee so much, call the waitress over and order one. I like banoffee too, which is why I don't want to give you mine."

Weefox · 06/04/2025 12:15

I'd have said, in a light hearted way:

'Hey, no sharing here....this is mine and mine alone...order your own!' Big smile and hopefully end of.

Moonnstars · 06/04/2025 12:10

She got to the dessert when I move the plate for her to have some of the strawberry cheesecake (that DH & I weren't fond of).

When did she ask for the extra spoon? Had desserts already been brought out and she heard you comment that you don't like cheesecake?

It seems to me from this update she asked for an extra spoon and you then offered her your dessert as you had to move it to her. In which case this is on you and your DH. Surely even she wouldn't have leant across and just waved the spoon towards the dessert to get at it.

SnoopyPajamas · 06/04/2025 12:08

I'm guessing Milly is one of those silly vain women who never orders a dessert for herself, because she worries it would look greedy to eat the whole thing. But she does actually want dessert, and gets around this by letting herself have a 'cheeky taste' of someone else's. The cheeky taste then ends up being half the slice.

If you seem unhappy, she'll then make some comment about how big the portion is and how no-one could possibly eat all that, etc etc, subtly making sure that you will feel like a greedy porker and question yourself if you complain.

In this situation I would either laugh and say "Hands off!' or "Get your own!" in a joking (but not so joking) way, or feign confusion and call the waiter back. "My friend changed her mind - she'd love a banoffee pie, actually". And then dig into your own right there on the spot. "It's great, you should get one." If she tries to say she only wanted a bit of yours, laugh it off again and remind her you're already sharing with DH. If she still pushes, stick to the faux stupid act. "But this is our dessert. We're sharing it."

The key is to sound utterly baffled by her behaviour, until she clues into how awkward she's being and stops.

JeanGenieJean · 06/04/2025 12:05

NicolaDeLaHaye · 06/04/2025 09:05

I've always felt using ignorant to mean rude is wrong. My parents and grandparents said it and it confuses me still. Ignorant of something=you don't know something.

Don't you realise that a word can have more than one meaning?

JeanGenieJean · 06/04/2025 12:02

ARainyNightInSoho · 06/04/2025 08:46

Ignorant = does not know something eg. I am ignorant about economics

It does not mean rude.

You're the ignorant one. It has more than one meaning and also means rude.
Look it up in the dictionary.

Fraaances · 06/04/2025 12:01

I would have said “It’s not too late to order your own. This is ours.”

EarthSight · 06/04/2025 11:57

Milly (who was sat next to us) said to the waitress “can we have another spoon please”. One for her to also tuck into our dessert

What the actual fuck! Cheeky fucker! You were too shocked at the time to say this, but that deserved a 'Errm...no. Not into ours you won't be!' response!

Keep a distance from people like this. It says a lot about them. They generally don't respect boundaries and usually manipulate or guilt trip people into getting what they want, even if it's unreasonable.

mindutopia · 06/04/2025 11:52

I bet she is totally one of those sorts who absolutely could not eat any more because she has already had an almond and 2 leaves of lettuce today, but happily tucks in to other people’s food.

My mum is like this, very weird about food, very eye rolly if a friend were to order a pudding and will make comments, but will shovel in anything they’ve left on their plate and a whole packet of biscuits when she gets home, but just cannot believe that Sally could possibly have ordered a pudding, no wonder she’s so fat. 🙄

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 11:51

SwimBikeRunBake · 06/04/2025 11:47

You say Millie wasn't in the discussion to order desserts?

Did someone come to the table and ask everyone in turn if they wanted to order dessert and what everyone wanted? And at this point did Millie say she didn't want to order anything?

Or did people wander to the bar and order desserts individually or was the order placed on phones? Was Millie away from the table when any discussion was held about who was and wasn't ordering desserts? Were other groups of 2 or 3 also sharing desserts?

sorry, wasn't clear, I meant she wasn't part of mine and DHs chat about should we get the sharing dessert or order our own. She was at the table when dessert menus were handed out and when the order was taken, she did not order anything or suggest she wanted a dessert. It was only when they were actually served she caught the waitress to ask for a spoon.

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