Alternative to Shein?

I don't trust any of them to actually have the green credentials they profess to have.

I remember well that one of the reasons Covid was rampant in Northern Italy at first (remember that), was because there was a huge Chinese contingent who worked in "high fashion" in Milan. When they returned from visiting China for their New Year, they brought Covid back with them.

So why not use indigenous people in these oh so ethical high fashion factories?

I'm not convinced about any of them. Money talks and bullshit walks for all of them IMV.

I didn't miss it but just because you can afford to save for clothes doesn't mean everyone else can. I'm going to need a whole new wardrobe if I get a job and it'll be coming from somewhere I can afford.

Of course slavery isn't ok but if people need clothes they are going to buy what they can afford which in most cases isn't going to be ethical unfortunately.

H&M maybe

Of course they do. All the high street brands do CSR PR, green washing etc. But there's plenty of undercover reporters who go into the factories in remote Chinese cities and expose what's actually going on on the ground. If you really are bothered about this you need to dig deeper than the PR they put out themselves ..that's not for H&M especially, most are similar and will claim ignorance if "caught".:

What part of minimum wage did you miss? Admittedly I have a limited wardrobe and rarely buy clothes as I can’t afford to.

How do Shein buyers feel about abolishment of slavery? Or is it just ok because you don’t see it being your screen.

Shein returns go straight to landfill. Utterly revolting company.

Everyone is in the position to organise a clothes swap or buy second hand, for cheaper than Shein

So depressing that not supporting possibly the most unethical fashion company on the planet, which uses children and slaves, rips off individual designers and small traders, and which creates more plastic waste than you can shake a stick at is "holier than thou".

That is an exceptionally low bar to set.

Ethical brands being more expensive isn’t an excuse. I’m on minimum wage, I just buy less, save up, buy better.

Good for you. You do realise that not everyone is in a position to do that?

No, she leaves them in plastic bags next to the communal bins, spilling out all over the place.

How would you even know this? Do you rifle through her bins?

Well Shein won't make much in the USA now that the Marmalade Moron has put 34% tariffs on Chinese imports. That's good isn't it?

Wow. The nastiness towards people not wanting to buy from companies using slave labour. Defensive much?

Returns process being more important than working conditions is no longer shocking me.

Ethical brands being more expensive isn’t an excuse. I’m on minimum wage, I just buy less, save up, buy better.

Dread to think what Shein users would think of the slave trade. Because that’s what you’re funding.

H&M have anti-slavery ethical policies on their website.

Absolutely

Holier than Thou type.

It's that kind of hectoring lecturing attitude that makes people like me dismiss people like you.

How perfect you must be in every single aspect of your life. I don't envy you that, as the only way is down.

How do you know, does she have a label on it or a placard

Returning to Shein is easy. I ordered some tops and when I returned them the credit was issued within a couple of days. Such a waste to just throw them out.

I wouldn't buy secondhand unless I could see it, you can't return easily to places like Vinted, I wouldn't buy from Shein either though. Don't people use Primark anymore as you can see what you are buying there

There's a woman in my road who bins entire bags of Shein clothes regularly. Presumably they weren't what she thought and returning them was too much hassle

This just shows how little you know about government. It's pretty hard to just ban things without support of the people and unfortunately we are overrun with people like you who don't give a shit.

If no one bought shein, they wouldn't be destroying the planet with their cheap plastic. You might not be able to be the solution but you can choose not to en part of the problem.

And if you don't care about the planets you must care about the slaves who make your clothes? Or is that ok because they are far away?

They're right though? Or do shein shoppers some how need to be protected from thinking about the consequences of their purchases.

Buying second hand on Vinted is a pain. Often it's not what you thought, and exchanging and returning, refunding is not easy. Clothing can be marked, smelly, ripped and so on.

I can see what I'm buying in a charity shop and try it on.

I have no issue with people who use Shein/Temu etc. I use it myself occasionally and I have no issue with doing that. I am unable to solve the problems of the world all by myself.

If the Government was really interested in the eco/ethics they could ban outlets like Shein. But they don't do they? So why should I bother doing their job for them?

Always one morally superior being who has to comment 🙄

Vinted etc. would be ok if sizing was the same across the board. I'm not buying something I can't try on and return and I'm not working at the moment so can't risk losing out by reselling.