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To be upset DS is going to double barrel his surname when he gets married?

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MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

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ZoeCM · 07/04/2025 19:27

AncientBallerina · 07/04/2025 18:19

Sorry I haven’t read the whole thread but someone in my family said that they were going to do something similar and we were all a bit dubious. Turns out they never got round to it. I wouldn’t spend any time worrying about it. It’s not really going to affect you and they may end up dropping the idea quietly.

Why were you all dubious? Seriously, this site is mental sometimes. Most people wouldn't bat an eyelid.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/04/2025 19:24

TheYetty · 07/04/2025 19:02

I find these names ridiculous and I only use the last name.
But, I would keep out of this, if I were you.

That's quite disrespectful to the people whose names you're shortening.

Lozzie86 · 07/04/2025 19:11

I love my hyphenated name. Yes I have to spell it out to people as when you say a long name it can bamboozle them for a moment, but so what. Even some single names have to be spelled out as they're unusual.

When I marry my partner I have suggested that we take one of my 2 names and hyphenate it with his (our DD already has this name), either that or he keeps his name and I keep mine as is. I do not agree with women giving up their own name unless they want to. Glad it's becoming more common. It will be fine!

Buffs · 07/04/2025 19:09

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 00:46

It sounds like you're the only one who's upset, well you and the 'horrified' grandparents.

There are only two people who matter here and they've made their decision.

You'll have to find something else to worry about.

This.

laraitopbanana · 07/04/2025 19:09

They aren’t married and you already prey on subject of discord.

Sure. It is a good start.

catlover123456789 · 07/04/2025 19:07

Wow is this another thing I have to be worried about if I get married, not being able to choose my own name without family members having an opinion? I do now recall my female friend's new in-laws pressuring her to change her last name after she married, so maybe it is a thing after all.

OneWaryCat · 07/04/2025 19:06

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:48

Re. the first point, an argument among adults shouldn't affect grandchild access. Re. the second point, I don't believe you (or her, rather) that they said they only cared about boys. Surely if that was the case, there would have been no issue with access as they wouldn't have wanted any?

You don't have to believe me, I couldn't care less.

They didn't care about the girl grandchild having the polish name as it wouldn't be passed on anyway, not that they didn't care about access to the child.

Lollipop81 · 07/04/2025 19:06

you are being very unreasonable. His choice his life. Personally I wouldn’t double barrel as when children marry if they double it will be 4 names and so on 🤣🤣 but that is my choice, this is theirs.

TheYetty · 07/04/2025 19:02

I find these names ridiculous and I only use the last name.
But, I would keep out of this, if I were you.

Kellph83 · 07/04/2025 18:51

repeat after me.. not your life, not your problem.
we have double barrelled our names and tbh It’s fine. They both 2 syllables and 6 letters each. Our son is fine with it too . It’s really not that hard or deep to be honest. I wanted to keep my surname as my dad passed away and I wanted to carry on the surname. I’m the only one of my siblings to have a son so it means a lot

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:48

OneWaryCat · 07/04/2025 18:44

It was the breakdown of the relationship and their disrespect for her as a person which meant she wasn't comfortable with her grandchild alone around them, not tit for tat. They also said they didn't care if the grandchild had the polish surname or not because she was GIRL and they only cared about BOYS. Still feel the the same?

Re. the first point, an argument among adults shouldn't affect grandchild access. Re. the second point, I don't believe you (or her, rather) that they said they only cared about boys. Surely if that was the case, there would have been no issue with access as they wouldn't have wanted any?

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:46

FortyElephants · 06/04/2025 05:50

Does this apply to daughters too? Or just precious boys?

You know it's just precious little boys.

Do parents of boys get a kingmaker complex, or something?

OneWaryCat · 07/04/2025 18:44

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:39

That's really mean to let an argument over names affect access to their grandchild. Talk about tit for tat.

It was the breakdown of the relationship and their disrespect for her as a person which meant she wasn't comfortable with her grandchild alone around them, not tit for tat. They also said they didn't care if the grandchild had the polish surname or not because she was GIRL and they only cared about BOYS. Still feel the the same?

DearBee · 07/04/2025 18:42

Have you suggested they maybe roll it together e.g. Greenson instead of Greenwood-Williamson (for example)? For practicality. Perhaps they haven't thought of it.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:39

OneWaryCat · 06/04/2025 07:53

I have a friend who was in this exact scenario on the other side. She wanted to double barrel her last name and her husband's last name. He had quite a long polish name and as the only son, his parents felt very strongly that it shouldn't change in any way.

The upshot is that it damaged the relationship badly and my friend hated her PIL for a long time. She also wasn't comfortable giving them much access to their baby when it was born.

We all knew the surname drama and at the wedding thought they were 'dicks'.

The situation has resolved now and they have all gotten over it (I think) but genuinely, I think you are setting yourself up to be disliked and potentially cut out.

Is it worth it? Your son is old enough to make up his own mind.

The alternative is they keep their own names but if I was her, I'd insist any children took the maternal surname. So what are you more horrified about, the double barrelling or the risk your son won't have the same name as his children?

Edited

That's really mean to let an argument over names affect access to their grandchild. Talk about tit for tat.

Jc2001 · 07/04/2025 18:39

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:19

Or everyone could just be Mx, regardless of sex or marital status.

If you gonna do that you may as well abandon a prefix altogether. What's the point of it?

EatAllDay · 07/04/2025 18:38

who cares what people think behind his back?? No one’s business but the couple themselves.

Soone · 07/04/2025 18:34

I have a double barrel surname and it’s a pain in the arse. Can’t wait to get married and off-load the bloody thing, but no one has ever asked me 🤣

Daddydog · 07/04/2025 18:32

My wife casually asked if I would double barrel my name as she felt that taking my name was an antiquated concept. Totally agree, she still has hers. However my single argument to me not changing my name was the fact that I spent 4 months salary on a ring which I designed myself and travelled halfway around the world to find the perfect stone. Drove 11hrs to ask her dad for her hand, proposal in Chicago at Christmas with the Home Alone House as a backdrop (promising her I would work so hard so we would have a family and home like the McCalisters). Then singlehandedly planned a suprise wedding in the Caribbean during Covid. So while it all felt very antiquated to me and his and her matching tattoos would have been my choice - tradition seems to matter then, it kind of has to work both ways. My name is my name and I have two daughters and accept the fact than my name will probably die with me.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:30

Bloodybrambles · 06/04/2025 13:43

I’m a bit biased as MIL kicked off about us doing something very similar… She didn’t want her poor little solider to loose his ‘ identity’ or ‘people would struggle to get their heads around it’. Apparently our wedding day was very upsetting for PIL as they felt their noses were getting rubbed in it (Our cake said Mr & Mrs New Name) and that THEIR grandkids wouldn’t just have their name. Something to do with it also being confusing for future generations to do their family tree…

Basically all the things my parents would be expected to get over if we decided to become Mr & Mrs Smith.

Our anniversary cards come addressed to Mr & Mrs Smith and I rip them up and put them straight in the bin.

Omg, your anecdote about the cards....this reminded me of my exMil always addressing cards to me as Mrs. Peter Smith. (Those aren't the names; I'm just using them as illustration.)

I did take my husband's surname and never thought twice about it, but that was because of some quite serious problems with my own dad. I'd rather have my husband's name than his.

But being addressed as Mrs Peter Smith had me raging, absolutely raging! My first name isn't Peter!!!!!

nameXname · 07/04/2025 18:28

Historically speaking, OP you are misinformed. The custom - not really a longstanding tradition - of women taking their husband's surnames only really took force throughout the UK in the 19th cent. Partly because of the concept - created because of industrialisation and fostered- understandably - by trades unions etc then of the male bread-winner and the asssociated 'family wage'. But also bear in mind that:

  • the introduction of statutuary registration of births marriages and deaths in the UK in approx the 1850s, for the first time ever, created a bureaucratic legal document in which the father's surname was prominent. Before that, religious documents had followed various formulae, including some - especially in Scotland - whereby women were known throughout their lives by their family names: Mary MacArthur wife of James Scott, for example
  • for centuries, the husbands of women with more wealth/power/aristocratic kudos often had to change their names to their wife's name as part of the marriage settlement. And even after that, their wives still used their birth family names and titles.
There is an awful lot more to say about all this - especially about the very unfair legal rules that entitled a husband to their wife's property/assets after marriage. But please don't think that any of this is a recent issue. It literally goes back centuries. What is wonderful now is that there is no compulsion on couples - unless family members choose to try to invoke false history.
Bugaloo77 · 07/04/2025 18:26

To be fair I know where you are coming from because my husband and I have spoken about our surname regarding our son. Now I took my husbands name which is a pain because my surname was Carter and his is a real rare surname in the UK and is 10 characters long and no one can spell it, where as Carter everyone knows how to spell that 😂
Our son is only 20 and no where near close to getting married but already my husband is putting pressure on him to keep the name. For the last 4 generations only one boy per gen to carry on the family name has been born and I just don’t think it’s that important.
It has nowt to do with my husband or I of our son takes on his girlfriends surname or not it is such a non issue to me, I just want him to be happy.

StmMary · 07/04/2025 18:21

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

It's very common now to double barrel names.
I think it's a great idea.
When their children will be born then they have both parents last names.
Other countries do this.
I know many men that actually took wife's maiden name and dropped their own.
I've got my maiden name in the middle then married name at the end.
You'll get used to it in Sure.

Julimia · 07/04/2025 18:20

For goodness sake get a grip. He'll still be the same person , ssme son, sane grandson etc.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/04/2025 18:19

JustASongAtTwilight · 06/04/2025 16:25

I’ve been married twice and was a Ms before, during and after marriage.

Or everyone could just be Mx, regardless of sex or marital status.