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To be upset DS is going to double barrel his surname when he gets married?

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MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

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JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 08:23

BumbleBeegu · 06/04/2025 08:11

OP, who are all these ‘people’ who will be ‘thinking about it behind his back’??

Come on now! 🤣 It’s only you (and his grandparents apparently)! Nobody else will give a flying fuck! Get a grip.

I agree. I know quite a few men who have gone double barrelled after marriage and no one cares.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:22

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 07:55

So what happens when their kids marry other double barrelled names? And what happens to the grand children who have quadruple barrelled names? It’s a silly idea that has no future

I guess we'll all just work it out without too much hand-wringing. Thank God for the human brain and its ability to think through what to do in various situations.

arcticpandas · 06/04/2025 08:22

BumbleBeegu · 06/04/2025 08:11

OP, who are all these ‘people’ who will be ‘thinking about it behind his back’??

Come on now! 🤣 It’s only you (and his grandparents apparently)! Nobody else will give a flying fuck! Get a grip.

I will talk about OP's son saying what a good job she did in raising a man who is with his time and respects his gf wish to keep her name as well. All the village will be talking about this progressive feminist man and OP might be invited on talk shows on how to raise a good man.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 06/04/2025 08:20

They could blend the two names into a new name, would work well if both names are long.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:18

HoskinsChoice · 06/04/2025 07:51

You're taking a lot of flak on here and it's right that it's none of your business and you'd be better staying out of it. But, you're in the safety of anonymity here so, yeah, I can see why you wouldn't like it. It's the height of chaviness, I'd be embarrassed too! Hopefully they'll forget about it as time passes. 🤞

In what way is it the height of chaviness?

arcticpandas · 06/04/2025 08:18

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 07:09

Why is it impractical?

It's longer to write out and harder to memorise for people. For me that was the most important factor. But then I'm not attached to my surname so it wasn't a problem. For someone attached to their surname I understand chosing to have double names.

InternetUser · 06/04/2025 08:17

To be honest I very rarely have to read my name out for spelling. I have to fill it in online but mostly I use auto fill so I don’t even have to type it. I think it’s less of a problem in the internet age which is maybe why you have different views on it to your son.

Booboobagins · 06/04/2025 08:16

Wtaf a post by a female that's anti female. Get a fg grip.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:15

user13842 · 06/04/2025 07:29

Double barrels are stupid simply because it can only happen once and we can’t keep double barrelling our names (I.e if my DP and I chose to double barrel for ‘fairness’ that doesn’t give the option to our children as they’d be triple (or quadruple) barrelling). That said, if my child decided to do it I’d simply say what a lovely idea and let them deal with any complications.

See: Spain

pelargoniums · 06/04/2025 08:14

tHe aBiLiTy oF fUtUrE gEnErAtIoNs tO tRaCe HiStOrY iS rIdIcUlOuSlY hAmPeReD bY SeLf rEgArDiNg iNdIvIdUaLiSm

Please keep this sort of thing coming, I’ve not had this much fun in forever, it’s helping me shake off the shackles of my family’s chaotic system.

andyouwillknowusbythetrailofdead · 06/04/2025 08:13

It's very clear that you want him to keep your surname and for her to give up hers. Apparently them doing the reverse wouldn't be "fair". Just own it OP. The length is irrelevant. You think she needs to fall into line and he should be in charge.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:12

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 06/04/2025 07:26

No, I am not out of step.
Just bacause some agree that it's ok, doesn't make it acceptable to most in society. Or at least, those who care what they look and sound like.

Have a look at the polling for this thread, and then consider re-evaluating whether your opinion is what "most people" think.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:11

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I'm trying to help you think through your thoughts using gentle questioning. It might help you to arrive at an understanding that you're being ridiculous.

BumbleBeegu · 06/04/2025 08:11

OP, who are all these ‘people’ who will be ‘thinking about it behind his back’??

Come on now! 🤣 It’s only you (and his grandparents apparently)! Nobody else will give a flying fuck! Get a grip.

PixelatedLunchbox · 06/04/2025 08:09

Oh mummy dear mummy, don’t allow yourself to get on this meddling train of “I asked “him” what he wanted “ believing yourself to be the guide for your son in his marriage. There’s a new queen in his life. Let them figure out their lives together. Only give your input and your opinions on their lives and their choices when asked for your opinion. I say this with kindness: make the decision now that you will stand aside and let them grow their marriage without your unsolicited input.

DeskJotter · 06/04/2025 08:09

TheGentleOpalMember · 06/04/2025 07:22

Yes, it screams pretentious twats.

And what does a woman taking a man's name scream?

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 06/04/2025 08:09

It's a hard one isn't it? I don't want the patriarchal associations that go with a girl dropping her name either, but it's the practical aspect. What happens when double-barrelled kids marry? Do we get a quadruple-barrelled name? What about genealogy and records?

The PP who said about taking the name of someone who wouldn't get custody if they broke up - wow that was an acerbic read, but they did have a point!

Maybe it should be marked that in the year.... the tradition changed and the female name was preserved, and we'll do that for a couple of thousand years instead.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 06/04/2025 08:08

Flopsy145 · 06/04/2025 08:05

Don't be that mother/mother in law. Just don't. It's their life, leave it it's not a big deal

Sadly I think she already is. It’s the second thread this weekend where women are behaving bizarrely over sons who are getting married/living with their girlfriends, I genuinely don’t understand it.

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 08:07

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 06/04/2025 08:06

There's no system, people can choose whatever surname they wish according to their family traditions - they add some and drop some along the way. I don't even know where some of my dad's names have come from. Yes, the names fit onto passports - you can have more than one part on the surname. If people feel strongly about tradition they keep it going even if it's a bit more laborious. (my parents didn't feel as strongly as their ancestors did as they shortened mine to just two surnames)

For my own DC we didn't give them a middle name and instead gave them two surnames - I felt this keeps it pretty short and is most fair, and I don't mind if in the future they decide to use only one part of their surname, like I do.

Could you possibly name this culture? I want to see how their family trees work out?

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 08:06

pelargoniums · 06/04/2025 08:03

Because I’ve had a double-barrelled surname since the 1970s, as have my siblings. There are four of us and two of us, including me, have partners with double-barrelled names. We all have children, and we’ve managed the surname issue just fine. It’s not a new trend at all, you’re mistaken.

Right so you and your siblings manage just fine and therefore the entire concept is fine? Okey dokey. So what’s the system? What do your children do wrt surnames? Or is it a chaotic mess where one person chooses x and another chooses y and the ability of future generations to trace history is ridiculously hampered by self regarding individualism

Coffeeishot · 06/04/2025 08:06

Loads of couples do it now they want to show they are "equal" good for them, one of my Dc has a doubled barrelled married surname I don't think it's the issue that you think it Is op.

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 06/04/2025 08:06

TheGamblersGone · 06/04/2025 07:58

Key point is @AlmostCutMyHairToday is there a system? Or do people just keep collecting surnames in your culture? How do they fit in to a passport? A person’s name is a legal document, there needs to be a system, forename, surname. Everything else can go into the middle name if needs be

There's no system, people can choose whatever surname they wish according to their family traditions - they add some and drop some along the way. I don't even know where some of my dad's names have come from. Yes, the names fit onto passports - you can have more than one part on the surname. If people feel strongly about tradition they keep it going even if it's a bit more laborious. (my parents didn't feel as strongly as their ancestors did as they shortened mine to just two surnames)

For my own DC we didn't give them a middle name and instead gave them two surnames - I felt this keeps it pretty short and is most fair, and I don't mind if in the future they decide to use only one part of their surname, like I do.

Flopsy145 · 06/04/2025 08:05

Don't be that mother/mother in law. Just don't. It's their life, leave it it's not a big deal

JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 08:04

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 01:00

To be fair, I am not horrified, I think that’s just their generation. I don’t think him just taking her surname is fair and nor do I think DS would want to completely lose his. I am nice to her! I am not sure how it’s come to the conclusion I’m awful to her just because I think the surname will be a pain for everyone and living to regret something like that isn’t ideal. He would do absolutely anything for her and I truly believe he would compromise what he wants/his happiness for hers and as much as it’s how it should be with regards to him doing anything for her, I don’t think he should give up on everything he cares about

You don’t think it would be fair for your son to completely lose his surname? But you’d be fine for her to change hers I assume?
What name do you have? You say “we” have a long surname and mention your DH so I assume you are married and changed your name when you got married? Why is that fine for you to do, but the same would be “unfair” on your son?

TizerorFizz · 06/04/2025 08:04

What happens in the future when DS offspring meets someone with an equally long name? Have 4 names as no one’s prepared to compromise? Where does it end. It’s over done these days and generally not done by upper class folk any more. If it wasn’t done 100 years ago, at least, it’s now considered a bit unnecessary and showy. Most women just keep their own name at work. Lots of people did use the woman’s maiden name as a middle name for a baby but it wasn’t used every day. My DF had this.

The op will just have to put up with it.

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