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To be upset DS is going to double barrel his surname when he gets married?

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MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

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Panterusblackish · 06/04/2025 11:04

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 01:10

Because I like to think of my son and his life and future children he’s spoken about wanting? Is that really so mind boggling? I am just relaxing on a Saturday night and wanted to casually ask on a forum I like to scroll, where plenty of other not majorly serious threads are posted, especially on AIBU. It’s just out of interest. I completely understand the comparison on how if I don’t think it’s right his name isn’t used, then why should the same feelings not be used for hers but there’s no denying the majority do accept their names get given up, every marriage on both sides has followed the traditional way, so I do think it’s fair to say it’s slightly different for her to give it up vs DS. Obviously this wasn’t the most useful of threads, I didn’t expect everyone to feel so incredibly strongly about this from the opposite perspective. My bad

No women aren't more accepting of giving up their names.

They're just expected to swallow it by people like you.

You've internalised your misogyny and you're actively assisting enforcing patriarchy by saying its not fair for a man to completely give up his name but its okay to expect women to.

Equity that is not.

Take some time to reflect and read, so that if your DIL has kids you're not perpetuating patriarchy further down the generations.

Mumwithbaggage · 06/04/2025 11:04

Horrified is what my mother was when I didn't change my name in 1988. She was worried the postman/woman would know we weren't married 😂. As if a South London postie knows or cares!!

My name is more unusual but I use DH's name when ordering a takeaway to save shouting a spelling over the phone. My teacher name is my double barrelled initials (imagine Mrs D-B) and we're known round here as the D-Bs. Personally I prefer just to introduce myself with my given name.

My kids are all double barrelled and sometimes use it, sometimes not. I still don't like the title Mrs.

DS is getting married in summer. His fiancee will keep her own name at work.

If my children are happy I couldn't give a monkey's what surname they choose to use. None of my business.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 06/04/2025 10:58

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 06/04/2025 10:54

Ds1 first name is 8 letters long….i should probably have thought than one through 😀

So is DD’s.

DH’s surname is 9 letters and 3 syllables.
Mine is 6 and 2.

My dad messed up my sister’s name and she has 3 middle names. She’s always struggled to fit it on official forms!

My first name and surname have 6 letters each. Perfectly normal names but I have to spell them every time.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 06/04/2025 10:54

Ds1 first name is 8 letters long….i should probably have thought than one through 😀

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 06/04/2025 10:53

Someone on the thread has mentioned son in laws surname and turns out it has 7 letters 😳

so 9 and 7

and i am curious OP….whose name should ds1 and his husband have picked?

in your case you would prefer the female changes….otherwise its not ‘fair’

what should ds1 have done, its not a trick question i promise, they could have flipped a coin 😀

Cornettoninja · 06/04/2025 10:51

As someone with a long first name that can be legitimately spelt in a number of ways and a long foreign surname that requires spelling out regularly I can assure you that I’ve never once felt it was a ‘burden’. I’m also completely unbothered about spelling errors on occasion. It’s just not that important.

Arseynal · 06/04/2025 10:47

Long names aren’t particularly unusual or difficult. Short names are more problematic as electronic forms sometimes need at least 3 letters to recognise a name. I wish we had double barrelled even though both ways round sounded daft - one way a piece of v common clinical equipment (we both worked in healthcare but even lay people would know it - it would be like being called Mrs rolling-pin or Mrs fitted-sheet), the other way is slang for prostitute in DHs 1st language. We decided on DHs only in the end on the basis of future dc had stronger links to my culture geographically so a last name from his might be better. “My perfectly ordinary name is fairly long” is not a real problem but weddings can be incredibly stressful, as can change and it’s easy to focus on non- problems as a distraction.

VickyEadieofThigh · 06/04/2025 10:46

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 01:47

Do people genuinely never have concerns over their children? I understand it’s not my name and it’s not something I will have to deal with but do people not think about their children and their decisions?

Of course - but this is not worth a second thought. They're grown-ups and it's their choice.

snowmichael · 06/04/2025 10:46

Not you name, not your life, not your place to express any opinion

VickyEadieofThigh · 06/04/2025 10:44

MsArgent · 06/04/2025 00:41

DS is due to marry his girlfriend soon and they have recently announced they’re going to double barrel. I am not against double barrelled surnames and I do of course understand that it’s 2025 and more of a modern concept to keep it “fair”. However it’s truly just too long. Her surname is really quite long, along the lines of Williamson and we have a 2 syllable 8 letter one! I have asked him what he wants and he said originally he didn’t consider it and did think it would just be his surname, until she spoke up about what she wanted and he was open to it and said yes. I asked if he responded to it at all and questioned the practicality and he just says no he didn’t because it’s not a big deal. I think he is completely undermining how much of a burden having to keep repeating and spelling the double barrelled names will be, especially as they are hoping for children one day. I get it’s his life but what is the general opinion on this? I am curious if he would change his mind when realising what people will actually be thinking behind his back. Grandparents are horrified but I have tried to explain it’s more usual nowadays and DH doesn’t like it at all but hasn’t said anything yet

"Horrified"? Are they usually given to such over-reaction?

Crunchymum · 06/04/2025 10:43

What's they Spanish way?

whycantibeselfishforonce · 06/04/2025 10:43

My DS and his gf will be double barrelling their surnames when they marry. Their DD already has their double barrelled surnames.

Their names are totally wild together tbh! DS surname is always misspelt and his gf surname is not British and difficult to pronounce and spell. I have honestly never even thought about the practicalities of this other than a mild wondering of the strategies we will use to help my DGD learn how to spell her surname!

There are a great many things about my DCs that I worry about as an adoring Mum and Nanny, but this is not one of them.

OP I think you are stressing about nothing.

Cosyblankets · 06/04/2025 10:40

Crunchymum · 06/04/2025 10:38

We have all our legal stuff sorted and did long before DC.

It's a serious question about double-barrelled surnames though. If both partners have a double-barrelled name how is it decided what names any DC have? I'm guessing people chose to double-barrell as they want to keep both their surnames so how does that work when you have 4 names to contend with?

I assume they choose as a couple which names to choose or they do it the spanish way

Crunchymum · 06/04/2025 10:38

We have all our legal stuff sorted and did long before DC.

It's a serious question about double-barrelled surnames though. If both partners have a double-barrelled name how is it decided what names any DC have? I'm guessing people chose to double-barrell as they want to keep both their surnames so how does that work when you have 4 names to contend with?

Matronic6 · 06/04/2025 10:38

FortyElephants · 06/04/2025 10:23

That's a problem of bureaucracy, not of law or custom however. You had the right in law to do what you did, Spanish bureaucrats aside. I have had arguments with people who have automatically changed my name to my husband's on paperwork and others who have tried to say I must have a previous surname if I use Ms because Ms is for divorced women only and all divorced women have a previous surname...ignorant bureaucrats are a universal problem.

It is absolute unnecessary nonsensical bureaucracy. They seemed to make it as hard as they could for us to have child's name registered correctly to the point they wouldn't accept her UK birth certificate as proof of name as UK is not an EU country.

BobbyBiscuits · 06/04/2025 10:37

You don't want him to take her surname? Why not? It can't legitimately be because it would be too exhausting to type or write with a pen?

TizerorFizz · 06/04/2025 10:35

For me. The bigger issue is virtue signalling. That being known by a name matters more than the actual commitment to each other. It’s surface dressing.

TizerorFizz · 06/04/2025 10:34

@Crunchymum I would just advise you to get an agreement about splitting up finances! Not married and three dc is a danger zone. The name doesn’t matter!

CarrieOnComplaining · 06/04/2025 10:31

Crunchymum · 06/04/2025 10:17

MN will hate me but mine don't have double-barrelled names and DP and I aren't married (together 18 years and have a house and 3 DC) So I have a different surname to my 3 children.

Was never as issue for me, was totally my decision and MIL didn't even realise they had DP's surname until DC2 was born. She just assumed they would have my name.

My only issue with double-barrelled names is where does it end? If Crunchymum Jones-Smith marries Crunchydad Allen-Donaldson then do our children have 4 surnames? The decision as to which names get used then surely becomes more of an issue as there are more to consider?

Edited

Why hate you? Do what you choose to do.

But don't presume or make assumptions about what other people feel or choose - their is no 'surely' about it.

(I have checked with my Dc - one of whom dealt with name choices by going into therapy for 3 years in preparation for marriage, one of whom has 72 surnames because they couldn't decide, and one of whom made their own rational decision as to what suited them best, just like their parents did, and because they had such parents no one put any pressure or expectations on them to create angst)

CandyCane457 · 06/04/2025 10:30

I sense here that your issue isn’t really about the practicalities of this for him, and his “burden” of spelling and repeating a long name. How does that affect you in any way whatsoever? It’s his choice.
I think you just don’t like that he’s taking his fiancés name too. You’d rather he just kept his surname as it is. So yes, YABU.

Cosyblankets · 06/04/2025 10:29

Can't actually remember the last time i introduced myself using my surname anyway unless it's the bank or something
And I've certainly never given any thought to what others do with their name.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 06/04/2025 10:25

Crunchymum · 06/04/2025 10:17

MN will hate me but mine don't have double-barrelled names and DP and I aren't married (together 18 years and have a house and 3 DC) So I have a different surname to my 3 children.

Was never as issue for me, was totally my decision and MIL didn't even realise they had DP's surname until DC2 was born. She just assumed they would have my name.

My only issue with double-barrelled names is where does it end? If Crunchymum Jones-Smith marries Crunchydad Allen-Donaldson then do our children have 4 surnames? The decision as to which names get used then surely becomes more of an issue as there are more to consider?

Edited

Yes. Of course. My cousin has been stuck in a branch of Barclays for 3 years applying for a mortgage with her 1024 surnames.

FortyElephants · 06/04/2025 10:23

Matronic6 · 06/04/2025 09:22

As I have said to another poster my DH is Spanish. We have had huge issues registering child's name as it should have been his fathers surname. They were not contesting the order of the surnames they were insistent that legally childs surname in Spain was my surname + his fathers surname.

That's a problem of bureaucracy, not of law or custom however. You had the right in law to do what you did, Spanish bureaucrats aside. I have had arguments with people who have automatically changed my name to my husband's on paperwork and others who have tried to say I must have a previous surname if I use Ms because Ms is for divorced women only and all divorced women have a previous surname...ignorant bureaucrats are a universal problem.

Crunchymum · 06/04/2025 10:17

MN will hate me but mine don't have double-barrelled names and DP and I aren't married (together 18 years and have a house and 3 DC) So I have a different surname to my 3 children.

Was never as issue for me, was totally my decision and MIL didn't even realise they had DP's surname until DC2 was born. She just assumed they would have my name.

My only issue with double-barrelled names is where does it end? If Crunchymum Jones-Smith marries Crunchydad Allen-Donaldson then do our children have 4 surnames? The decision as to which names get used then surely becomes more of an issue as there are more to consider?