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Would you pay this school fine or risk it at court

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Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 22:29

I know there is a lot of opinions on talking the kids out of school for holidays but I will not drip feed and I feel like I shouldn’t have to pay the fine.

We were informed that this year the school were not allowed to make allowances and everyone’s holiday request would be declined and it’s not their fault ( okay so I get this )

however the situation is as followed

DC class are away on residential mon -Friday to a sort of PGL like place. DC can’t attend for medical reasons and to be honest there was no real attempt to make it possible for them to attend.
parents were informed that if not attended they would be expected to be at school but DC is the only one not going. So we have booked a similar type holiday as a family at a well known family holiday park that dc enjoys which was very cheap due to not being in the holidays.

this will lead to a fine and I begrudge paying it to to be honest. Would I be unreasonable to stand my ground on this one ?

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Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 23:11

Frostynoman · 05/04/2025 23:10

As another poster said, this would be a hill for me.

Your dc is being discriminated against and as such cannot attend: a reasonable adjustment could be going to do similar activities with yourself. Sitting in a classroom is not an adjustment, it feels like a punishment.

This is it I feel like it’s a punishment.

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Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 23:10

Julen7 · 05/04/2025 23:09

What about your other DC, won’t you face separate fines for taking them out of school in term time?

Not compulsory school age

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stripeychair · 05/04/2025 23:10

If this case is as you describe and they have arranged a trip your child cannot participate in I cannot imagine them pursuing this attendance issue. If they do, counter with a disability discrimination claim. Arranging an activity your child cannot participate in and then stating its OK they can just attend school instead is not going to meet the threshold of acceptability for the Equality Act.

Frostynoman · 05/04/2025 23:10

As another poster said, this would be a hill for me.

Your dc is being discriminated against and as such cannot attend: a reasonable adjustment could be going to do similar activities with yourself. Sitting in a classroom is not an adjustment, it feels like a punishment.

Julen7 · 05/04/2025 23:09

What about your other DC, won’t you face separate fines for taking them out of school in term time?

Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 23:09

thing47 · 05/04/2025 23:01

@Coastingtohell25 I understand that you may not want to out yourself and your family, but it is relevant what your son's medical condition is. If it is something which is covered by the 2010 Equality Act then the school is potentially acting illegally in not facilitating your son's attendance.

lots of experience of this kind of discrimination but i'd need more specifics to be able to advise.

Mito - with severe elements of organ failures.

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KnickerlessParsons · 05/04/2025 23:09

Personally I’d take the school to court for failing to provide an activity week that was inclusive to all pupils.
that’s disgraceful in this day and age.

HollyBerryz · 05/04/2025 23:06

Pay the fine. Then take them to court for disability discrimination.

MayaPinion · 05/04/2025 23:04

Just call in and tell them he has flu.

Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 23:01

cabbageking · 05/04/2025 23:00

Is the trip close enough that your child can attend any of the daytime events.

The cost for an overnight NHS nurse is £400 for us with an additional charge if they have to do anything after they retire for the night. This cost is payable by the parents which we have argued against because it seems way over the top and restricts our residential trip now. We pass the charge on to parents and ensure we stick to eight students who all need a nurse just in case and add £50 to the cost.

No not close enough,
they would require 1-1 all day and nursing care all night every night.

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thing47 · 05/04/2025 23:01

@Coastingtohell25 I understand that you may not want to out yourself and your family, but it is relevant what your son's medical condition is. If it is something which is covered by the 2010 Equality Act then the school is potentially acting illegally in not facilitating your son's attendance.

lots of experience of this kind of discrimination but i'd need more specifics to be able to advise.

howchildrenreallylearn · 05/04/2025 23:01

Logic and common sense seems to have left the building. Of course this child should be able to go on a holiday that week! Regardless of what the ‘rules’ are this is discrimination and just plain unfair. How mean to sit a child in another class for a week with younger kids. Honestly I think our education system is losing the plot.
On principle OP I would not pay the fine.

Sevenandahalf · 05/04/2025 23:00

I'm a teacher
I think it's shit there's one child who can't attend a school trip.
I think it's lovely you've booked your child on a holiday that is similar.
It seems really shitty to have to pay a fine.

cabbageking · 05/04/2025 23:00

Is the trip close enough that your child can attend any of the daytime events.

The cost for an overnight NHS nurse is £400 for us with an additional charge if they have to do anything after they retire for the night. This cost is payable by the parents which we have argued against because it seems way over the top and restricts our residential trip now. We pass the charge on to parents and ensure we stick to eight students who all need a nurse just in case and add £50 to the cost.

Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 23:00

To clear this up

its not along the lines of asthma, diabetes etc

it’s more along the lines of home dialysis ..night time venting etc

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Happygoducky1 · 05/04/2025 22:59

Christ, lots of posters here who didn't read the OP properly

Op, please fight this under reasonable adjustments from the equality act 2010. This is a reasonable adjustment you have made to ensure he has the same experience or as close to as his peers.

Middleagedstriker · 05/04/2025 22:59

TropicofCapricorn · 05/04/2025 22:38

The child was unauthorised absent for the bays if the trip. It's not up to them.

School has discretion. We were allowed to take out kids out for a holiday as we had had a family trauma and weren't fined.

May09Bump · 05/04/2025 22:59

Chaseandstatus · 05/04/2025 22:48

I would ask the school to record it as Education Off Site, tell them that you have great news and have managed to find an alternative provider for the school residential experience so your child will now also get to do hikes/canoes/high ropes /whatever the residential was going to cover. I would not describe it as holiday.

Do this - I use to do similar with sports days.

TheFairyCaravan · 05/04/2025 22:58

YANBU. I wouldn’t want to pay the fine either.

The school have booked a trip that your child can’t go on, which is discrimination in itself. You’re doing something lovely for them, instead of making them feel left out and having to sit in a class with younger children, all week, while their mates are off having fun. It’s not like they’re missing their GCSEs is it?

Doolallies · 05/04/2025 22:56

I agree with your morals but I would pay the fine for ease of life

mindutopia · 05/04/2025 22:55

I don’t know that you’d win, but I’d fight it on principle just to get it all stated for the record and I’d possibly flag it with media as well. I would consider it discrimination. I think it’s right (for him) that you are creating an alternative experience.

That said, I took both of mine out for a 4 day city break (one to Italy and one to Spain) when they were in primary school. Only 8 sessions unauthorised absence so no fine. Absolutely no regrets. It’s years later now and they both still talk about those trips regularly. My son said his trip to Spain is literally the best thing he’s ever done.

Coastingtohell25 · 05/04/2025 22:55

GeorgianaM · 05/04/2025 22:54

Dye his hair pink so that he gets suspended for a week and take him on holiday without having to pay the fine.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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TropicofCapricorn · 05/04/2025 22:55

Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 05/04/2025 22:53

not relevant not up to you to decide whether it stops the child from attending the trip

Never said it would..but it provides context.

Like "oh he has asthma" is different to "he's got one leg and is blind" which again is different to "he needs a. 24hr nurse".

Sadtosaythis · 05/04/2025 22:55

Could the 1-1 not do the days and you collect him at the end of each day? That is assuming it’s relatively local. This is quite common in schools. Then he gets to do the day activities and you do your usual night care for him? Nobody misses out?

Regarding the fine, it seems unfair if he cannot attend on medical grounds but I think you would lose an appeal as it’s an educational visit. Surely the fine is still way cheaper than the cost of going to your destination in school holidays?

Either way, I feel for you. The money generated from fines goes back into the system as far as I’m aware. I would imagine the admin of the system costs a bit. I hope whatever the outcome your DC enjoys his break.

Kevintheelf80 · 05/04/2025 22:54

TropicofCapricorn · 05/04/2025 22:45

What reason would the court agree with the OP? The school was open and the child could have attended, but the mum decided to take him on a holiday instead.

The fact that he won't be receiving a quality education that week plus he is being discriminated against

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