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Partner won't put me on deeds !!

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Stockgirl · 05/04/2025 18:24

Hi, my ex partner and i have been seeing each other for a couple of months to see if we can rescue our long term relationship (25 years)...he asked me to go back a few months ago and he said he'd put me on the deeds of the house..but after talking to him today he said he wanted to see where the relationship went before moving forward with that!!
This causes a massive problem for me because I think he doesn't see me has his equal...after everything I've put into the property I think I deserve something...am I being unreasonable? I can't see a way forward tbh if we can't get past this...

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SomethingSScintillating · 07/04/2025 12:23

@Jillybloop393 on the other hand maybe it's the very least he can do after financially leaving his partner of 25 years and the mother of his children high and dry.

To try and woo her back and share a life with her again as a couple maybe it's the very least he can do.

CoastalCalm · 07/04/2025 11:28

Your motive isn’t clear in one post you say it’s only to protect your son who still lives there and in the next it’s to increase your standard of living - how would owning half a house you didn’t sell increase your standard of living ?

He should have paid you back for the work on the structure of the house but you only paid half the bills which seems fair to me:

If you really want to just protect your son then push him to make a will , and then walk away and stand on your own two feet - presumably he is covering all the costs for your son now so that will benefit you and you can work full time

OmegaAlpha · 07/04/2025 11:14

redphonecase · 07/04/2025 10:55

That sounds exceptionally difficult to prove and unlikely to be true.

well it's true in that I was told this, by a legal adviser given to me through work, but I have no idea whether anything could come from it. Just an avenue to explore, even if it turns out to be a dead end

BurntBroccoli · 07/04/2025 11:03

Stockgirl · 07/04/2025 05:18

@Sassybooklover We chose the house together, I was heavily pregnant and not well so he did all the paperwork on his own , he said we'd sort it at a later date.
We had been engaged for 20 years but never got around to marrying , just life got in the way I guess.
I think from everyone's comments that the best thing I can do is move on from this and try to make a life for myself without him in it , I'm always going to feel that I've been treated unfairly by him if I'm honest.

Feel for you - he sounds an awful man. No way would I want to reconcile with him.

Did you put any cash deposit into the house by any chance? And can you prove it? That really is your money by rights.

redphonecase · 07/04/2025 10:55

OmegaAlpha · 07/04/2025 08:57

When I split up from my partner, one of the pieces of legal advice I had was that if you were engaged, or you were under the understanding that you would be married, then you could have a legal case for some sort of payment/dues. There is a term for it, which I can't find at present - my will had 'in contemplation of marriage' or 'expectation of marriage' at the time, so something similar, but perhaps check that out. To be engaged for 20 years, have children with this person, to the detriment of your own earnings and future prospects/security, might have some standing in law.

That sounds exceptionally difficult to prove and unlikely to be true.

OmegaAlpha · 07/04/2025 08:57

Stockgirl · 07/04/2025 05:18

@Sassybooklover We chose the house together, I was heavily pregnant and not well so he did all the paperwork on his own , he said we'd sort it at a later date.
We had been engaged for 20 years but never got around to marrying , just life got in the way I guess.
I think from everyone's comments that the best thing I can do is move on from this and try to make a life for myself without him in it , I'm always going to feel that I've been treated unfairly by him if I'm honest.

When I split up from my partner, one of the pieces of legal advice I had was that if you were engaged, or you were under the understanding that you would be married, then you could have a legal case for some sort of payment/dues. There is a term for it, which I can't find at present - my will had 'in contemplation of marriage' or 'expectation of marriage' at the time, so something similar, but perhaps check that out. To be engaged for 20 years, have children with this person, to the detriment of your own earnings and future prospects/security, might have some standing in law.

Jillybloop393 · 07/04/2025 08:10

Itisjustmyopinion · 05/04/2025 18:30

If I was in your partner’s shoes I wouldn’t be putting you on the deeds just yet either

You have only been back together a few months after a break up. How do either of you know it’s going to work long term?

He has to protect himself as much as you want to be in the deeds to have security. That is something you do when you are both absolutely sure this is a long term thing

This. Sorry, but I'd be like him, and reluctant to share my all with someone that I'd only just got back with. In fact, I'd be highly suspicious as to the reason they got back with me, if all they did was insist on going on my deeds - those old red flags would be waving!

U53rName · 07/04/2025 06:11

Of course you’re going to feel like you’ve been treated unfairly! He Future Faked you with marriage, the mortgage, a lump sum, and the deeds. He also faked you into investing in home improvements (which i would’ve thought gave you a claim to the house). The icing on the cake is the emotional affair. You’ve been conned, which is a bitter pill to swallow.

Stockgirl · 07/04/2025 05:18

@Sassybooklover We chose the house together, I was heavily pregnant and not well so he did all the paperwork on his own , he said we'd sort it at a later date.
We had been engaged for 20 years but never got around to marrying , just life got in the way I guess.
I think from everyone's comments that the best thing I can do is move on from this and try to make a life for myself without him in it , I'm always going to feel that I've been treated unfairly by him if I'm honest.

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Sassybooklover · 06/04/2025 21:55

Did your partner own the house before you met? Or did you both choose the house together but it's only his name on the mortgage and deeds? If the latter, what were his reasonings behind you not going on the mortgage and deeds, at the time of purchase? It would be odd to choose a house together but only one person go on the deeds and mortgage. If he owned the house prior to you meeting, then I fully understand why he never added you to the deeds or mortgage initially. As time passed though, and especially as children came along, I would have expected him to add you to both. It's a simple process! Did you both ever discuss marriage? Was it something neither of you wanted? I'm sorry to say, I agree with others, he's not going to add you to the deeds (especially as the mortgage has been paid off). He hasn't in the 25 years you've been together, there's zero reason for him to do this now. You don't need me or anyone else to tell you that you made a huge error in not marrying, because you'd now be entitled to a divorce settlement. As it stands your partner has no legal obligation to give you any financial settlement or help. You have no legal claim on any of his assets - house, savings, pensions etc. You need to cut your losses, and accept your partner won't be giving you a penny.

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 21:28

@Poppyseeds79 He retired early and had a large payout from his company.

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CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 21:20

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 21:16

@Poppyseeds79 I'm not living with him , I'm renting a place on my own.
He promised me when I left a lump sum to help me start again but that never happened.

Where do you think he should get the money to fund your lump sum to set you up from?

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 21:16

@Poppyseeds79 I'm not living with him , I'm renting a place on my own.
He promised me when I left a lump sum to help me start again but that never happened.

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AlwaysPerfumed · 06/04/2025 21:05

I don't think you are being unreasonable in asking for some help and I hope you get some.
Maybe you could try being as you were before the menopause, in order to sweeten the situation. I know you shouldn't have to be but you catch more flies with honey and all that.

Poppyseeds79 · 06/04/2025 21:05

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 20:57

@AlwaysPerfumed Ideally I'd like some help so I can get my own place but I don't think he'll agree to that.
I think the menopause changed me in the way that I wouldn't argue or disagree with him before it but after it I stood up for myself.. I held alot of resentment in for so long that one day I couldn't do it anymore.

So it's not about going on the deeds to protect your son then. It is about wanting some capital from the house. Presumably he's well aware of this and again you're not getting on the deeds.

You've only moved back in with him to try and get on the deeds. You're better off saying you'll either cut your losses completely, or stay there 'platonically', whilst you save some cash.

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 20:57

@AlwaysPerfumed Ideally I'd like some help so I can get my own place but I don't think he'll agree to that.
I think the menopause changed me in the way that I wouldn't argue or disagree with him before it but after it I stood up for myself.. I held alot of resentment in for so long that one day I couldn't do it anymore.

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Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 20:48

@Isinglass20 That was one of the reasons I left , the main one was him having multiple messages to an ex girlfriend declaring her his soulmate and he always thought they'd end up together!!
I also didn't abandon my son!! I see him regularly and he's happy.

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AlwaysPerfumed · 06/04/2025 20:38

@Stockgirl
I understand that you are concerned for your boys but as they are over 21, your older son will be his next of kin and if he hasn't made a will, I think the house will go to him. Could you talk to your older son and reassure yourself that he will share with his younger brother?

However, you do say that you expect your ex partner to help you financially, so clearly it's not just the worry about your younger boy that is on your mind. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to give you a lump sum-maybe a deposit for a flat-could he raise it against the house?

Would he be willing to do this? I suppose a lot hinges on how you left. You say that you did it for the altruistic reason of allowing him to have a fulfilling relationship with someone else, although I don't get the impression that he had asked you to do this.

You also mention that the menopause "gave (you) a voice. Does this mean that were arguments, hurtful things said and bad feeling?

This might make appealing to his better nature difficult and I wonder if this bad feeling has continued and could this be a factor in his decision to delay putti g you on the deeds when he previously indicated that this might be an option.

If the relationship is now bitter and he thinks your "voice" was instrumental in causing the break up, then rightly or wrongly it will be difficult to persuade him to part with money, If however, you left for purely altruistic reasons then maybe he should remember this and treat you accordingly.

Horrible though it is, you are now reliant on how positive he feels towards you.

The only other thing I can suggest is that you ask your older son to speak for you.

Good luck!

CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 19:47

ThejoyofNC · 06/04/2025 12:08

OP thinks paying for half of bills and looking after her own kids is classed as paying rent..

Only on mn is paying half towards your living costs is being deemed saintly and over the odds!!

Laura95167 · 06/04/2025 19:40

If I'd just broken up with you and we'd given it one last go I wouldn't add you to me deeds either.

What if you were only back to get the deeds. I'd be saying if in 6 months we're still good I will. Although I do wonder why it's been 25yrs and not already happened

Isinglass20 · 06/04/2025 19:27

I’m afraid I dont understand why you left so he could have a ‘fulfilling relationship’ and then said ‘with only my clothes’.

You didn’t leave because of bad behaviour on his part.

You left and that is the legal point. You should not have left. If you were unhappy because you felt he was unreasonable in not putting you on the deeds with no recognition of what you had contributed then you should have done it then and not left and also abandoned your child who has Asperger’s.

Go to Shelter if you want confirmation that you have lost any legal right you might have had and do not instruct a solicitor who will string you along and then present the bill for legal fees.

GiveDogBone · 06/04/2025 18:54

Stockgirl · 05/04/2025 18:24

Hi, my ex partner and i have been seeing each other for a couple of months to see if we can rescue our long term relationship (25 years)...he asked me to go back a few months ago and he said he'd put me on the deeds of the house..but after talking to him today he said he wanted to see where the relationship went before moving forward with that!!
This causes a massive problem for me because I think he doesn't see me has his equal...after everything I've put into the property I think I deserve something...am I being unreasonable? I can't see a way forward tbh if we can't get past this...

He’d have to be insane to put you on the deeds. Certifiably insane. Might as well just burn money to keep warm.

Shopgirl1 · 06/04/2025 12:08

Did you contribute to the deposit for the house?

ThejoyofNC · 06/04/2025 12:08

1SillySossij · 06/04/2025 12:07

But he's let you live their rent free, for 25years?

OP thinks paying for half of bills and looking after her own kids is classed as paying rent..

1SillySossij · 06/04/2025 12:07

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:03

@Sofiewoo You're right !! Legally i havent a leg to stand on , I guess some of us have more morals than others and would want the mother of their children living a higher standard of life than what she has now...but not everyone has the same moral compass.

But he's let you live their rent free, for 25years?