A casual friend has just told me she's standing as a Reform candidate

I believe, as do the majority of people I know both left and right of centre, that we have an entry protocol that should be stuck to.

turn up on a beach when you are an economic migrant means you should be turned around the same day - no ifs no buts.

(not shot at for the hysterical amongst you)

@Mumblechum0

i would disown her as a friend as I have done with everybody who voted Brexit and ruined the UK economy and gave cover to even worse things.

that simple !

All the not-racist assertions smack of protesting too much to me. Genuinely not-racist Reform supporters and candidates need to ask themselves why so many online and real life discussions are enthusiastically embraced by people who merely want to express racist views. I never see anyone tell them to sling their hook.
It's not just about the racism either. (Just!) Look at Farage's ideas about healthcare.

I am aware there is a school of sociology thought that argues “racism = power”.

I don’t ascribe to that school of thought.

But that's like saying reverse racism is a thing. Most left wingers would say there is no such thing as a racist black person.

I guess in theory they can be. But racism is generally the provenance of white, as they are the ruling class with systemic racism set up in their favour.

You obviously think they should be used as target practice.

Black people can be racist. I don’t know why people think a party having black candidates means they cannot be racist or, specifically, their supporters can’t be.

I’m sure they tell themselves that. But racism is not a deal-breaker for them.
And if you find racism tolerable in others and are content to vote for them or represent them, then you’re enabling racism. Which makes you a racist.

Where does it mention race in that? You realise non-essential immigration means from everywhere, all over the board, including white anglo countries, places like Sweden, Canada, America, New Zealand, Australia, Finland, Norway, etc? Nowhere does it mention skin colour.

What about Christian grooming gangs, or Jewish grooming gangs, or Scientologist grooming gangs?

They actively want to defund a Womens Aid centre because they only accept females = 'twwaannnnsphobic'. https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5285207-edinburgh-rape-crisis

It would be good if they focussed on actual Green policies and the environment, instead of social engineering and redefining/removing womens rights. They ceased being for the environment a long long time ago.

You have no idea that she is a racist. Like others said, there are black candidates for Reform. They also chuck racists out. It seems more a reputation (of the party), based on assumptions that far right parties are automatically racist, than grounded in any actual reality. I say this as a Labour supporter btw.

Apologies - I’d seen that about a dozen times in the thread above.

Ideas on stopping them? No - not a supporter of drowning them of course!

straight back on another boat home and no hotel for them? Absolutely - welcome to reforms view. Guess I’m ‘far right’ 🤷

we have an entry procedure that people are welcome to follow.

Our Friend (very ill) votes Conservative, lives in a council flat and has disabled benefits. Supports Reform! I mean WTF .he's DH Friend more than mine.cant see how anyone sane could think Farage would be good for anything at all really. In your case as PP said just acknowledge your friends message, I would say hi and bye if you see her .just keep in short

I'd feel sorry for her as she must be a bit of an idiot. If we want an idea of how Reform will behave in government just look at the US and what the orange slug is doing

I'm not sure we should be pointing to this. Because if anyones main concern is illegal immigration, well he has actually proven very successful at curbing that.

I'm an immigrant, so reform certainly isn't in my best interests. As my dd is disabled, neither is my own party that I used to support (Labour) now!. However, seeing some of the changes in this area over the last ten years, I'm not sure I'd jump to assuming anyone who is concerned about immigration is just a racist.

I think reform is dangerous, but I also think that there must be a reason it is gaining popularity with so many people who aren't your typical 'Britain first' supporters. I think if those ordinary people concerns are ignored and belittled for much longer, that there will be no going back.

Mass uncontrolled immigration is for decent hard working immigrants, what the trans movement was to genuine transsexuals. It's going to blow back at all of us.

They were more popular than Lib Dem’s and should have more seats than them - they’re no longer a fringe party.

Now do your maths for what percentage didn’t vote for Labour?

Err where exactly did i say that? oh yes i didn't...

Most, not all, are economic migrants.. but that doesn't mean they should left to drown or shot at.

Stopping them is extremely difficult.... any practical ideas on how this can be done?

No, thought not.

Ahhh seeing the people coming off the boats on the beach, you believe they’re woman and children fleeing war torn countries - got it.

I'm afraid we're all far left activists now.

😂 I’ve never been called a far left activist before.

You do realise Reform candidates at local elections in May are campaigning on sorting out potholes in roads and stopping the wasteful money spent on taxis for DC coming from miles away instead of employing a local taxi firm? Nothing about racism, nothing about Tommy Robinson.

I don’t respect people who are bigots and racist and these are exactly the people Reform are courting to vote for them. I would also hazard a guess they wouldn’t “respect” my views either.

You think that everyone who opposes Reform is a far-left activist?

I meant that they might, like Trump, call the supporters of their opponents 'the enemy within': not their own supporters!