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Work colleague has decided to come on holiday with me — again...

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Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:39

I work in a school (admin, not teaching). Every year for the last 11 years, I've been away on my own over the summer half-term to attend a big literary festival. My DH and DC have never wanted to come. Both children are now in their 20s.

I register as a volunteer for the festival, book a campsite for a week, do my volunteering duties and attend events at the festival, read, sleep lots, eat what I want and do some work remotely. I have several friends who do similar. It's my 'me' week and I look forward to it very much. Several people at work know what I do and occasionally they turn up at the festival for a day or two. We bump into each other at the festival site, have a coffee — not a problem.

Last year I arrived on the campsite and was setting the van up when someone banged on the window. It was a colleague with her 7-year-old daughter, asking for help to put their tent up. They were camping on the same site in a tent for the week. I helped out, reluctantly. Then they wanted to come in and join me in the van because there was a chilly wind and they were cold. I made them drinks, they poked around the van and didn't seem to want to leave. It went on like that. The weather wasn't great and whenever I was in the van they'd come round and expect to sit with me in the warm or have hot drinks or a meal. They had a car and went out sometimes during the day, but never brought back a takeaway or food to help out. I felt under pressure to host them and so ended up avoiding the van as much as possible. One evening my colleague asked me to look after her daughter while she attended a comedy gig at the festival. She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no. I felt as if I'd lost all my down time to looking after them.

They left a day early, which was a relief: they weren't prepared for the reality of camping and from what my colleague said in the weeks afterwards, she had no intention of going back again. Yesterday afternoon I bumped into her in the corridor and she announced that she'd bought a better tent and mattress and thermal leggings and she and her daughter were booked again. Same campsite as me. 'We can hang out like last year' she said.

I'm already booked into the campsite and on the volunteer rota, so I'm committed. How can I politely say that they spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again?

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Andylion · 05/04/2025 15:58

Personally I would say something like you’re glad that they enjoyed themselves last year …

I wouldn’t say that, more that they didn’t seem to enjoy the camping experience and left early.

OP say something now.

Blackkittenfluff · 05/04/2025 15:57

Velmy · 05/04/2025 15:40

"You spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again."

Why would you need to say any more than that?

I'd be so tempted to say that.
That would put an immediate end to it.

LushLemonTart · 05/04/2025 15:55

Boreded · 05/04/2025 15:36

I think this will become a non-issue shortly. No way has this mum not got mumsnet or friends who do and know that she went to that festival. Especially if she was very vocal about your support. Feels like it might be quite outing. And you are trending right now so more likely it will be seen

Good point

Outofthepan · 05/04/2025 15:54

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/04/2025 12:10

"Agnes - I don't want to hurt your feelings, but this time away is my time to be on my own, to unwind, decompress and enjoy the volunteering and the festival. I'd be happy to meet up for a meal, but I really need to spend most of the time doing my own thing - I hope you understand."

This.

And I’d add: and it’s great that this time you’ll be prepared for poor weather, and be able to put your tent up yourselves. Might bump into you on the book trail

TheMimsy · 05/04/2025 15:46

@Craquedechevalier at most festivals I’ve been to (smaller and niched ones) there are groups set up independently and official to find folks to buddy up with if you are going alone etc.

id just say prior to the event and at it if necessary - Agnes this is a working holiday for me and I need time to just chill out after a shift - here’s a link to other groups to make friends and meet new folks to get the best of the festival.

AnxietyJane · 05/04/2025 15:42

Hi OP, definitely say no on advance and be prepared for this person to potentially still try and socialise/push it if you say no. She may get the message right away but people can be cheeky when it suits their own interests.

If she asks any favours or shows up when it's not wanted just be nice and say sorry I'm not feeling up to socialising or sorry I'm needing some down time to do things by myself but it's lovely to see you I hope you both enjoy the break etc. if she books any tickets and asks you to look after her daughter say I'm afraid I can't this time I'm sure you'll sort something and then leave/shut the door. You don't owe her an explanation. And you certainly don't owe her chunks of your holiday!

Maybe you could arrange a meet at the end of the week or on the last day and then don't be afraid to excuse yourself when you're ready.

Velmy · 05/04/2025 15:40

"You spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again."

Why would you need to say any more than that?

PorridgeEater · 05/04/2025 15:40

Unfortunately you helped to enable this situation by being too friendly last time - providing hot drinks etc. Maybe she thinks you were a bit lonely and glad of her company - but asking you to look after her child is a real cheek - she should at least have checked with you before getting a ticket (hopefully you would have had other commitments).
You could say you have busy volunteering schedule and can only meet at a pre-arranged time - maybe a coffee and then you have to go. And be firm about being busy if she turns up unannounced.

Boreded · 05/04/2025 15:36

I think this will become a non-issue shortly. No way has this mum not got mumsnet or friends who do and know that she went to that festival. Especially if she was very vocal about your support. Feels like it might be quite outing. And you are trending right now so more likely it will be seen

cheezncrackers · 05/04/2025 15:21

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 13:54

I think you're right. She's one of those chatty, apparently uncomplicated people who likes being with other people and probably assumes that they are as happy in her company as she is in theirs. As I learned last year, she comes from a large close family who help each other out a lot: her sister and parents help with childcare if necessary. I can be sunny and chatty too. You have to be cheerful and positive to be a volunteer.

I get it that spending a week on your own under canvas with a child is tough and that camping can take it out of you. Been there, done that (not the single parent bit, the camping with children bit). I'm not going to diss her.

But I've been going to Hay since 1989, first with friends who were in publishing, then later with my DH and for a few years, our children. DH and the kids dropped out around 2010 ('Not Hay again...') and I've been going solo ever since and have met other women doing the same thing. It has become one of those points in the year that I rely on. Beautiful place, books, ideas and thousands of women of a certain age, many of them enjoying being on their own.

This sounds like utter bliss! I've always wanted to go to Hay (on my own!). When the DC are finally out of my hair, I shall, inspired by you OP. And I sincerely hope you get your peaceful week and that you're able to make your work colleague understand that you need your space.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 05/04/2025 15:15

Anxioustealady · 05/04/2025 14:50

What would you say if they did book it?

I'm just curious. I'm an introvert and I would be enraged, but some people would do that.

In my case it’s unlikely because it’s not a big boat (~26 pax maximum) and it’s a unique experience that isn’t really mainstream. It’s not like a resort or big ship cruise where someone could just ‘bump into you’ and there are 10/11 other boats to choose from that are similar. I wouldn’t care if they chose the same week but a different boat. There would be one event we might see each other.

If someone did book my boat and week. I’d be pissed and would probably say “WTH?” The trip would be ruined for me and I would be pretty damned mad, their trip would be ruined because I’d be outwardly bitchy for the week.

C8H10N4O2 · 05/04/2025 15:13

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 14:09

I said I was planning to do both. Speak to 'Agnes' directly telling her that I go to Hay to enjoy a week alone and ask Jane, who Agnes has a lot of contact with, to reinforce the message that I don't want company when I'm there.

If Agnes can't understand then I'm in deeper tish than I thought.

You nailed your problem and why she tries it on in your OP:

She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no

That isn't someone just being overbearingly sociable its someone making use of your inability to say "no".

Don't make wild excuses which complicate things - just say "no", you are there for personal time, happy to meet up (somewhere else) for coffee on one of the days but this is your holiday, not work socialising or childminding time. Practice it in advance, say in advance that you go to spend time immersed in the festival not to meet up with colleagues or whatever works for you but keep it simple, practice it and then say it. Otherwise you might as well cancel your plans for next year because it will happen again.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 05/04/2025 15:10

I’d tell her that you book this trip to get some valued time away by yourself and that, as she is a colleague, it is too much like being at work and you want that space. She’s clearly thick skinned and will impose herself without thinking for a second if she’s welcome.

Mix56 · 05/04/2025 15:08

I would ask her WHY she thought a repeat of last year was a good idea, She told everyone you saved them from having a shit cold time.
It doesn't really sound suitable for her child anyway.
You allowed them to invade your private space because you are a polite decent person.
However you go away on your own because you want to be alone.
You do not want her squatting your van every time its cold or raining, you wont be babysitting. & for the record, she didn't even bring you a biscuit.
You will not be available, she really spoiled your precious break last year.
its not personal, but there was never an invite.
If you cant say this. Change camp site & dont tell her

WilfredsPies · 05/04/2025 15:04

She's one of those chatty, apparently uncomplicated people who likes being with other people and probably assumes that they are as happy in her company as she is in theirs. As I learned last year, she comes from a large close family who help each other out a lot: her sister and parents help with childcare if necessary I think this is going to be your issue. I don’t think she’s going to understand the concept of anyone actively choosing to spend time on their own. Give it another week or two and it will develop into you holidaying together, driving up in convoy and her pitching up right next to you.

I think that it might be an idea to start the conversation off slightly differently. Maybe tell her that you’re surprised she’s booked again as you didn’t think she’d enjoyed it last time, but that you’re glad she’s prepared for this year because you’ve got your volunteering sessions sorted and the rest of the time, you’re going to indulge your inner introvert by burying your head in a pile of books and not talking to another soul all week. You look forward to that silence all year and you treasure it. Although you could meet up for a quick coffee at some point during the week if she likes? Ask her if she’s bringing a friend or her sister with her this year to help her with babysitting so she can go to the odd comedy gig? Set her expectations. And then if she says ‘oh, but I thought… then you can tell her to forget about what she thought because you’re not going to have a second holiday ruined by her (although the way you worded it was probably better).

I’d also be inclined to laminate a sign to go on your van door saying ‘Go Away, I’m reading’. And if she knocks, stand in the doorway, don’t ask her in and say ‘sorry colleague, I did explain I’m not up for socialising this week, I’ll let you go because I’m in the middle of a good bit and I don’t want to lose my thread’. And make sure you say that before she comes up with a reason she needs your help.

Nettleteaser101 · 05/04/2025 14:57

Just say that you are looking forward to time alone and that you really don't want company. Don't have one meal with her and don't have a couple of coffees, all that just invites her. She knows she is taking the piss and is using you. Just Say no!

MaMaMalenka · 05/04/2025 14:56

LePetitMaman · 05/04/2025 14:38

Yes this.

Sorry OP but she's not "cheery and outgoing" she's a sly fucker who's using you because you give her a break with her child. And that's not what your holiday is for. But unfortunately probably the only way she'll get time to herself, and that's her priority, so she's not letting you get away without a fight...

I was in a single mums group about 15yrs ago and we had one like this, and boy did it piss the rest of us off. We all get it, it's hard doing everything yourself, but you don't just force yourself on another adult to take some of your parenting duties. That's what the eating meals with her child is, someone else to engage, supervise, meal prep, clean up. That's what the surprise babysitting where she's so entitled that she's already paid for the ticket, certain you'll be looking after her kid. She's making you a stand in parent. You need to be very clear that this is your lone time away from your DH and DC.

I came to say this! Buying tickets and then "asking" /commandeering you to babysit is not being a cheerful outgoing person, it's total CFery!

Charmofgoldfinch · 05/04/2025 14:55

I think you need to say no in advance OP - don’t be leave it until you’re there. Just say you enjoyed spending time with her last year but this is your one week alone and you are going for some me time.

twilightcafe · 05/04/2025 14:54

Do it now!
Send her a WhatsApp today. Immediately

'Hi - re the festival, I won't be up for any babysitting or catching up.
This is my only chance for some 'me time'.
I'm sure you'll have a fab time - and we can catch up afterwards back at work.'

If you can't send that- then I will on your behalf.
You need to stop being a wet lettuce. Be firm but fair.

Marshbird · 05/04/2025 14:53

Azureshores · 05/04/2025 12:05

See I don't understand this as I'd just be completely honest:

"Sorry but this is my alone time that I take every year to be by myself and recharge my batteries - the whole point of it for me is getting away from everyone (tinkly laugh) maybe we can have a coffee one day but il have to let you know"

But I have no problem with being quite abrupt. It doesn't sound like she's a friend, more of acquaintance so who cares if she takes offence? She has no problem with being a total CF and riding roughshod over your obvious attempts to stop her inveigling herself into your holiday. If she takes the hump it's a Win win imo.

This
excuses are just digging a hole of lies, and will catch you out

I’d be asking her if we can we meet up for a coffee in next few days (not at work) or a pub. A neutral public space so neither of you can loose your shit,

buy her a drink, then sit down and say up front that you want to talk to her about something that is making you quite stressed, and is a difficult conversation for you to have with her. Say it’s about the festival, and her comments to you.

thenckick off by Ask her first about what she wants to get form attending the festival- why is she going. If she’s genuinely interest3d in festival , say encouraging things, if she frames it in context of your company, say nothing, just mirror back to her what you hear for clarification.

Then say I’d now like to tell you why I go…. Emphasise that you are an introvert (even if you don’t seem that way to her) and that this it is your time to get into your headspace, recharge away form family and friends, and do exactly as you please when you please, even if that’s hiding your caravan shut away like a hermit.

depedning on reason she gave for her attending, then say you feel that her plans involving you, of socialising with you, are therefore creating a problem for you. You don’t want to be rude, and indeed want to be seen as kind, and therefore sometimes have a hard time saying no. However, you feel she appears to have formed the wrong impression of why you go to this festival and without your family, and that her remarks about spending time together again have alarmed you. Say that you found it very difficult to say no last year, and being forced into company, giving up your time to do what you wanted, especially feeling pressured into babysitting by her buying a ticket based on assuming you’d babysit.
by end of holiday, you felt it had been spoilt, you hadn’t enjoyed it. You ended up feeling you had wasted your precious break and was frustrated.
Make sure you say it not aimed at her. In other times and places you like her company. But not on this holiday.
ask her then if she understands this

hopefully she’ll realise what she’s done, and apologies and back off and reassure you they’ll not intrude at all

However If she debates and tries to persuade you otherwise, then you say clearly, these are my boundaries, i will not be spending time with you at all, and that you expect her to respect your boundary by not “calling in” to your caravan at any time. Explain again that it is your sanctuary and retreat away from others, and you don’t want to spoil your time away like last year

frame everything in sentences of “I”, I feel , I think, I want, I will…..NOT “you”. Dont say: you mustn’t, you shouldn’t, you need to.

Apologise at the end, say you hope she understands, or if she has then recognise and say you appreciate her respected you. State agian that you wanted to lay out your issue before you both arrive and in the heat of the moment it becomes more awkward.

Then, when you go reinforce your boundaries whilst at festival. Say hello, be polite with a few bland “are you having a good time” but pass on quickly, don’t agree to any drink. At all. Don5 share meals. This year,at least, you need a very firm boundary. Don’t let her step foot in the caravan, don’t take pity on tents blowing away, or ice storms. But maintain those boundaries with any one else you know there as well. Ram message home with her .

if sh3cpresists in going in future years after that, you can perhaps share a drink or takeaway one evening…but keep boundaries clear.

beadystar · 05/04/2025 14:52

*meditation

beadystar · 05/04/2025 14:51

It sounds like you'll have to be direct but pleasant as you'll still be colleagues. You could say, 'I enjoyed helping you both out last year when you were new to it all, but this year I need to prioritise my me-time, so I won't be available to hang out. Hope you and dd have a great time now you've got camping figured out! Maybe see you around.'
I would also buy some reflective stuff for the camper windows- where you can still see out but people can't see in. If she still knocks in you could say you're practising mediation and can't be disturbed. If all else fails you'll have to just say, 'no, that doesn't work for me.'

Anxioustealady · 05/04/2025 14:50

saltinesandcoffeecups · 05/04/2025 14:39

@Craquedechevalier I’m glad you’re going to have direct conversation. If it helps at all I have used similar with good effect.

I go on a sailing trip once a year, it’s a unique experience (not a big cruise ship) I’m happy to tell people about it and get them to the website. But I always make sure to say “Yes, it’s a great experience there are 11 boats to choose from. Have a look if you’re interested and I’ll answer any questions. But you can’t choose Boat X on week Y. That’s my time to get away from everything. Nobody but my DH is welcome from my everyday world!”

I usually get a laugh and a “yeah, I can understand that!”

What would you say if they did book it?

I'm just curious. I'm an introvert and I would be enraged, but some people would do that.

dogcatkitten · 05/04/2025 14:50

Have a chat before the event and say, 'It was a shame how miserable it was for you last year, I'm so pleased to see you are much better prepared this time. I'm glad I could help you out last year but it did rather disrupt my plans, and I must get back in the swing of things this year so I'm not going to be so available this time, what with doing my volunteering and fitting in all the other things I want to do, I really won't have much spare time for anything else. Do remember to take lots of warm clothes and have a lovely time, perhaps we might fit in a coffee one day.' You could throw in how sorry you were for them and you felt obliged to help a colleague, etc.

Imbusytodaysorry · 05/04/2025 14:47

@Craquedechevalier if explain this is your week of “you “ time no plans no company “unlesd you choose “ and definitely no kids.
Say you are really sorry but the week she has planned for her and her Dd is not how you plan your week .
Say you plan on doing your own thing this years like every other year for the last 20 .

She is the cheeky one nothing you can say could trump her .

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