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Work colleague has decided to come on holiday with me — again...

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Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:39

I work in a school (admin, not teaching). Every year for the last 11 years, I've been away on my own over the summer half-term to attend a big literary festival. My DH and DC have never wanted to come. Both children are now in their 20s.

I register as a volunteer for the festival, book a campsite for a week, do my volunteering duties and attend events at the festival, read, sleep lots, eat what I want and do some work remotely. I have several friends who do similar. It's my 'me' week and I look forward to it very much. Several people at work know what I do and occasionally they turn up at the festival for a day or two. We bump into each other at the festival site, have a coffee — not a problem.

Last year I arrived on the campsite and was setting the van up when someone banged on the window. It was a colleague with her 7-year-old daughter, asking for help to put their tent up. They were camping on the same site in a tent for the week. I helped out, reluctantly. Then they wanted to come in and join me in the van because there was a chilly wind and they were cold. I made them drinks, they poked around the van and didn't seem to want to leave. It went on like that. The weather wasn't great and whenever I was in the van they'd come round and expect to sit with me in the warm or have hot drinks or a meal. They had a car and went out sometimes during the day, but never brought back a takeaway or food to help out. I felt under pressure to host them and so ended up avoiding the van as much as possible. One evening my colleague asked me to look after her daughter while she attended a comedy gig at the festival. She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no. I felt as if I'd lost all my down time to looking after them.

They left a day early, which was a relief: they weren't prepared for the reality of camping and from what my colleague said in the weeks afterwards, she had no intention of going back again. Yesterday afternoon I bumped into her in the corridor and she announced that she'd bought a better tent and mattress and thermal leggings and she and her daughter were booked again. Same campsite as me. 'We can hang out like last year' she said.

I'm already booked into the campsite and on the volunteer rota, so I'm committed. How can I politely say that they spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again?

OP posts:
Tortielady · 06/04/2025 11:33

freefields · 06/04/2025 10:50

The bigger problem you might have OP is that all of us women of a certain age reading love your idea so much that you might have 50 of us around you this year. You have described a week of absolute perfection, being on your own in the cosy van and even better, at a literary festival.

It's a lovely image. I don't have a camper van and to various health problems, I couldn't do it solo anyway, but I completely see the appeal of being on your own, but with other people not far away and everybody enjoying peace, solitude and good books, with interesting events to go to. It sounds idyllic.

MarkWithaC · 06/04/2025 11:32

FeatherDawn · 05/04/2025 12:27

Text

Hello CF colleague
Thank you for your offer to hang out at the Festival but I'm going to have to decline as the retreat is specifically for me to get some much needed time alone.
I'm sure you understand, see you when we are back at work
Ps If you need assistance then xyz tent/organiser can help you.

Regards Op

Then archive her whatsapp/ texts and don't reply further .

Personally I would just put the blinds down so she can't see in
Annoying but not as annoying as being intruded on.

I agree with a message or a conversation along these lines. I wouldn't put the blinds down though; if they turn up and she and her daughter start knocking or pressing their faces against the window, open door and say politely, 'I don't want company, thank you. See you later,' and close the door firmly.

I also agree with those pointing out that, while she might be trying to come across as a free spirit/just friendly and sociable et cetera, she's actually being very pushy. I think most people realise that bringing round a child at a time when they're likely to be hungry is emotional manipulation. So is constantly asking for help/presenting yourself as a camping novice or idiot – and if she's so rubbish at it and needed so much help last year, why is she doing the same holiday again?

CatsWhiskerz · 06/04/2025 11:25

God this would drive me fucking mental!! Glad you're going to talk to her and the colleague - good plan, be strong so you don't give in 🤩

Wishihadanalgorithm · 06/04/2025 11:21

“Hi, hope you have fun at Hay. It’s great isn’t it? This year my focus is going to be on recharging so other than doing the volunteering I’m on my own to recharge those batteries.

If you want to meet up then I’m open to a catch up but I’m afraid this year it’s all about alone time for me. I am sure you understand - we all need that bit do space from time to time.”

Say this and leave it at that. Maybe meet her somewhere for a coffee (no providing her with stuff for her camping) and then let it be known that’s the one and only time.

If she is offended - well that’s her look out. She went initially not knowing you’d be there so presumably she is capable of looking after herself and her daughter.

Pippyls67 · 06/04/2025 11:20

Say nothing except that someone borrowed your van and a person died in it this year. Say you’re sure it’s haunted/cursed now. Say weird sinister things have been happening every time you use it and also to people who visit it. Speak of it constantly if they still insist on visiting. Act as if totally freaked out. Bet they’ll avoid you then. But at least no bad atmosphere at work later. Sad but necessary in my opinion.

LAMPS1 · 06/04/2025 11:14

OP, you are being far too generous towards her.
She bulldozed her way into your camper van with her DC every day during your holiday, taking over your limited space, time, hot water, heating, rest time, food, energy and company all without your invitation and without your prior agreement.
Yet you say she isn’t the CF user type, rather she is a happy bubbly type. Seems to me that it’s a subtle type of bullying,- yet you feel sorry for her as she’s on her own. She forced you to host her and her child in your tiny space every day for your week off.

If her tent didn’t meet her needs for warmth, hot water and comfort last year, why is she repeating the experience this year. It’s very probable, that with renewed vigour, she is planning on invading your space against your wishes again. She knows you are too kind to up your objections like last year. You have to meet her determination with much more of your own.

It’s good you plan to tell her, with as much advance warning as possible, that you hope she is all fixed up for improved accommodation and food etc this year as you won’t be able to help her out at all, due to a change of scheduling plans.

No further explanation should be necessary but if she does ask questions, you simply firmly say ‘things are different for me this year with my volunteering position, so yes, I just wanted to let you know that I definitely won’t be available to see you or host you in my camper van this time, not at all.
As a last resort, if she refuses to get the message, you can say ‘I’d prefer not to say if you don't mind’ or ‘personal reasons’ to any unwanted questions. Shut her right down OP. She’s taking the Micky.
Enjoy a lovely peaceful week all to yourself!

flibberdido · 06/04/2025 11:10

Well, hopefully, if she has a better camping set up and knows how to prepare ahead she won't need support this year. Pray for good weather so she doesn't have the excuse of being too cold in her tent and needing to take shelter in your van but she'll probably pop over anyway. A 'Do Not Disturb' sign may be an idea but if she sees you through the window she may still knock or shout!

She probably does think she's doing you a favour offering companionship to a 'lonely' woman and if she's hyper sociable she may not get the desire for time to yourself. All you can do is put her straight on that.

She may already have looked at the programme of events and considered you babysitting again so that would be my main concern. You need to be clear upfront about not being available for that.

withgraceinmyheart · 06/04/2025 10:56

Choughinthemist · 06/04/2025 10:15

They project their own situations which doesn’t help,

Definitely

freefields · 06/04/2025 10:50

The bigger problem you might have OP is that all of us women of a certain age reading love your idea so much that you might have 50 of us around you this year. You have described a week of absolute perfection, being on your own in the cosy van and even better, at a literary festival.

museumum · 06/04/2025 10:50

I would make up a wee white lie like you’ve promised to read 12 books this week or write x number of words of your own. That way when you see her you can always be friendly and chat for five minutes but then say “sorry, must get back to my reading/writing”.

Toodaloo1567 · 06/04/2025 10:49

pictoosh · 06/04/2025 08:38

Why do people advise transparent, silly lies to wriggle out of things?

Sorry @Toodaloo you're not the only poster who has suggested such. You must see that lying is no way to resolve things. Is she to have 'noro' for the entire week?

Fair enough, I’ll take that. In my defense though, it did seem to me that the OP struggled to say an outright ‘no’.

MrsAga · 06/04/2025 10:46

I think you need to be clear beforehand that you are looking forward to alone time at the festival & that’s why you don’t invite friends or family along
Then order/make a lovely sign for outside the van… “Please do not disturb”. Hang the sign up every time you enter your van.
Hope you have a lovely time.

aylis · 06/04/2025 10:44

You'll feel so much better once you've spoken to her, even if she doesn't take it well. There's less need to lie than there is to adapt your own plans. Once you've done it once, told her once, either she gets the message or you've got 'as I said' to fall back on. The truth isn't rude.

Spandaupants · 06/04/2025 10:40

Trendyname · 06/04/2025 10:02

This is a good response.

I have said similar to people myself. I need my downtime and alone time, I f I haven’t got my kids, I don’t want yours!
people might baulk at it but i don’t want their good time to be at the expense of mine.
im neurodivergent and I’ve learned that I have to blunt in order not to be walked over, people misconstrue or seem to misconstrue my signals unless I lay it out explicitly

withgraceinmyheart · 06/04/2025 10:39

pictoosh · 06/04/2025 08:49

Yes it's disappointing when it's not as drama-fuelled as you'd like.
People are creating scenarios. The woman has been torn apart on this thread with no encouragement from the OP.

Now it's "I bet" from you.
Bet all you like. You weren't there.

Yeah this exactly what I’m talking about. The OP politely explains that she thinks people are getting the wrong end of the stick and unfairly maligning the other party and this is the response!

I’m glad the OP isn’t going along with it.

nomas · 06/04/2025 10:21

burnoutbabe · 06/04/2025 09:07

I really would not say that last year was horrible. Just that this year you will be busy with volunteering (taking on more duties) and talks and some writing project so won’t be around much.
then spend more time outside the van and have early nights.

Why should OP ruin her holiday for these scroungers?

pinkdelight · 06/04/2025 10:15

then spend more time outside the van and have early nights.

I just don't see why it should be part of the solution for OP to restrict her routine in any way, either to accommodate or to avoid this pair. This is why I chafe at the 'move campsite' suggestions. It's really clear OP likes this site and has things set up perfectly for her. As long as she sets clear expectations from the off - from right now ideally - then she should be free to keep enjoying her time there without having to move sites or feeling on pins in case they might call around.

Choughinthemist · 06/04/2025 10:15

pictoosh · 06/04/2025 10:11

"Mumsnet has a way of encouraging people to torch relationships and stomp the embers under their feet in a way that just isn’t necessary in real life."

Doesn't it just...lol.
Easy advice to offer to a stranger.

They project their own situations which doesn’t help,

pictoosh · 06/04/2025 10:11

"Mumsnet has a way of encouraging people to torch relationships and stomp the embers under their feet in a way that just isn’t necessary in real life."

Doesn't it just...lol.
Easy advice to offer to a stranger.

Trendyname · 06/04/2025 10:02

thepariscrimefiles · 05/04/2025 12:10

Just tell her that you go on your own without your DH and kids on purpose as you need this time to yourself to decompress.

Say that you don't want to sound rude but spending time with her and her daughter defeats the object of your week without your own family. If you had wanted company, you would have brought your DH and your kids.

This is a good response.

Mistunza · 06/04/2025 10:00

yup you're going to have to get tougher when she pushes through boundaries again.

Unpick what happened last year and think how you could have avoided "having to" offer/tolerate/wait until they decide to bugger off all on their own. You didn't have to offer to feed them both just because a 7 year old watched you boil some pasta. Her mother would have fed her. When I camp for 3 nights I never take 3x as much food as I need - I just wouldn't have it with me. You think that you are being needed when no, you are just being used. And the worst of it was they didn't even ask you, you offered. Maybe because you felt you had to, but next time resist this feeling. Y'know the thing in a sales negotiation where it's important to just be quiet and let the silence hang? That is what she has done to you over and over. It works until you decide you're going to stop falling for it.

Buying the comedy ticket and expecting you to babysit was way beyond being thick skinned. I think you should use that as a specific example and tell her you did not appreciate that and felt completely taken for granted. i know you'd rather not but it might actually get through to her that you are not a doormat.

withgraceinmyheart · 06/04/2025 10:00

Craquedechevalier · 06/04/2025 08:28

I think she probably thinks it must be lonely for me, on my own at a festival. My guess is that she thinks she and her little girl are brightening the day of a sad older woman with no friends. I think she thinks she's the one being friendly and that 90 minutes babysitting while she saw a show was just something you do for friends.

Some people seem to have created a scenario in which my colleague and her DD were practically living in the camper with me last year and that I was expected to provide dinner every night. I didn't say that. But they did seem to assume that if I was in the camper it was okay to knock and come in for a bit, and they did tend to turn up around the time I'd be prepping dinner and 'help' me while they had a cup of hot chocolate. And when I'm just cooking pasta and throwing in some sauce, and there's a hungry little girl watching and her mum doesn't appear to have plans for their dinner...

They had a gas ring and a kettle, but standing waiting in the wind or drizzle for a kettle to boil isn't very pleasant. Much nicer to be in a warm van — particularly when you think that by being there you're cheering up a sad and lonely older woman who seems to have no friends.

I can absolutely see how this has happened if she’s a friendly and outgoing person who is used to being around people all the time.

A weeks holiday in my own would be my worst nightmare. I’m jealous that you can enjoy it! If I went to any event like that by myself it would be because none of my friends were interested and I still wanted to go, and I’d be quite lonely! Single mums are more aware of loneliness too so it’s probably that.

For that reason I don’t think some of the heavy handed responses on this thread are needed. You just need to gently say ‘actually I’d quite like some time to read this book I’ve just bought, are around tomorrow at x and we can grab a coffee on the way to y?’

Mumsnet has a way of encouraging people to torch relationships and stomp the embers under their feet in a way that just isn’t necessary in real life.

Choughinthemist · 06/04/2025 09:54

Ooh is it the Hay festival

PorridgeEater · 06/04/2025 09:52

"But they'd knock at around 8am to see if I had any spare hot water and then come in and wait while the kettle boiled and eye up my toast or cereal and only leave when I had to go off on volunteering duty. And often when I got back in the early afternoon they'd pop over for a chat to show me what they'd been doing in the morning, and the child would ask for some juice or squash... And then back again around 6pm."

Knocking at 8am! - surely you could say you're not ready for visitors at that time / make it clear you don't need them there while you're getting ready to go out. They should be boiling their own kettle.
And don't have juice / squash on offer.

Rightsraptor · 06/04/2025 09:43

It doesn't matter why this woman is doing this, whether or not she qualifies for the term CF, it's OP's needs and feelings that count here.

OP has managed to carve herself out a blissful week doing what's important to her and this needs to be preserved and at minimum cost to herself.

It's probably best to be honest, OP, and to be so now by letting this colleague know the motivations for your week at the festival and make it crystal clear that you aren't there alone because you're Billy No Mates who longs to entertain visitors in her camper van, but because it's your actual, positive choice.