Afghan women being denied refuge by government

Yet men are given leave to remain in this country despite being convicted of rape and/or murder on ‘human rights’ grounds because of the possibility of being frowned on in their country for being rapists and murderers.

I’d rather we swapped them all for the Afghan women.

Fucking hell this thread is depressing - the lack of compassion and the naivety about the competence UK asylum system. The idea that if someone is turned down it must definitely be for a good reason, maybe because they’re a criminal.

if the decision-making process is so bloody wonderful why do about 50% of legal challenges tp rejection succeed?

These poor women. I hope if you’re ever in danger of your life you are met with more humanity.

This.

Everyone says ‘but what about Ukraine’ but Ukrainians are fighting tooth and nail for their country and it’s likely the vast majority will return home once a more stable position is reached.

We can’t just take in anyone whose life is in danger sadly. We can’t be a world with half the population crowded into a few small countries while the rest is ruled by unchallenged dictators.

@saraclara says "Why crowd fund for her to go to a different one? Simply so that tax payers of a different nationality support her"?
Precisely that, Why do you think it is legitimate for you to expect the UK tax-payer to fund her?
Do you still believe in the Left Wing money tree that has free money?
What do we owe her? Nothing What obligation do I have to her? None
You may think it would be nice for her, and it will give you a nice warm glow if you can achieve it.
How much are you personally willing to commit? A few hundred pounds or what?

Why doesn't it make sense, its what asylum is for! They are arguably the most oppressed group of people in the world, but they get refused whilst boat fulls of young healthy men get granted access? I know who I'd rather help.

The problem is that we cannot grant asylum to every Afghan woman (and men for that matter) on the grounds that they live in a country with a terrible government. To get asylum they need to be specifically worse off than average citizens of their country eg we grant asylum for political refugees because their activism has made them a special target. There are many countries whose citizens are repressed remember

The decision was made on her not being in danger of persecution

I know, @Maitri108, and on the face of it I agree that her reported activities might be expected to have put her at risk

However not having been privy to the decision and all the details behind it I wouldn't want to assume it's wrong and that she's some poor innocent woman being hung out to dry

Well obviously it’s ridiculous and would
never happen but the fact that the world
is standing by and not giving a crap about this is pretty ridiculous too.

Mina (not her real name) worked for western government-backed projects and was involved in training and mentoring women across Afghanistan, which left her in grave danger even before the Taliban took over in 2021.

My voluntary work brings me into contact with asylum seekers and the Home Office, and this decision and the reasoning behind it makes no sense at all. It's mind bogglingly irrational.

She was astonishingly brave to do what she did over there, and it's unconscionable to send her back.

Sorry, what? Your only intention is for another country to pick up the tab? She's already in a safe country. Why crowd fund for her to go to a different one? Simply so that tax payers of a different nationality support her?

The letter stated, There are no compassionate factors in your case that warrant a grant of leave to remain outside the immigration rules

I've not seen it, but if that's so then presumably any claim of being persecuted will have been considered, and in these cases rejected

Certainly the situation for many Afghan women is appalling, but it doesn't necessarily follow that these 26 count among them. For all we know they could have close links to the Taliban leadership itself and be keen to settle elsewhere in order to bring others with them

As a British woman, how could we help this particular woman OP?
Petition your local MP for a start.

Is it possible to crowdfund and raise enough money for her to go to a safe country so that she doesn't need taxpayer funds. Start with a local Mosque perhaps. They are not all like the Taliban

Just because they are women, doesn’t make them a good person. There will be a good reason for this

Yes it's tough on individuals. But we now have about a million individuals in UK that we didn't invite. They ignored trying to stay in other safe countries but decided to pass them and come to us. There are safe Muslim countries that have a society much closer to their own but they come here.
We are broke, we are cutting long standing benefits, must we afford to finance yet more people?

As a British woman, how could we help this particular woman OP?

Nobody is suggesting that we should invite 20 miliion Afgahn women to all come and live in the UK! As if they'd all want to, or be able to get here.

The OP just thinks that we should grant asylum to the very small number who have already managed to make it here, instead of deporting them back to a country where they are very likely to face imprisonment (with rape/ sexual assault and other physical violence) and risk actual death.

So what are we talking about?
Just these few?
And then the next? And the next? And what about the next country to fall?

The problem is there are 41 million people in Afghanistan. We can’t grant asylum to 20 million people.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

How many women will that be exactly? How many women to be supported by the taxpayer?

It’s not feasible, no matter how many bleeding hearts call for it.