Afghan women being denied refuge by government

Will these women leave their sons behind then?

I have an idea - stop granting asylum or leave to remain to violent male criminals - most recently a convicted Afghani paedophile - and grant it to non violent women instead.

Our immigration courts are not fit for purpose. These mad decisions on supposed human rights grounds just increase racism and hate and make British society even less safe for women.

People can't see that Trump is now mates with Putin, supports trad wives and Meta brainwashing incels. He managed to dupe the US into re-electing him and now the world is paying for letting him off the hook for his illegal activities and "grab women by the pussy" comments and behaviour. He's changing the world alright, just not in the way we hoped for.

I think people down play the agency and role of the rulers making these draconian decisions though when the West’s role is highlighted. I don’t think it helps to do that.

Did Labour change asylum rules for Afghanistan? I recall it vaguely

Yes. We can’t help the world, until we’ve helped those that need it here. 🤷‍♀️

With half a million young people out of work for basically no good reason, shouldn’t we be training them?

We can’t just be a small island with a population in the hundreds of millions, with high unemployment and benefit claimant rates, propped up by a few billionaires. But everyone acts like we can be and there is some fantasy economics which will save us ‘if the will was there..’

Well, quite. Do we interfere in an independent nation in the Middle East again, or not? Is there a right meddling and a wrong meddling? Most of these women will not speak English and will have small children to care for and won’t be able to work for a long time. How do we support them?

I've heard this type of argument alot but will you? It seems to be the common answer but will you actually go and help a British homeless person? Maybe even just one since you don't think you should help this particular lady.

If you don't do that either then neither party is getting helped and that argument just creates smug apathy (imho). Not that I'm in any way perfect but this thread has made me decide to write to my MP.

Your sarcasm detector needs some tuning.

I thought you were against "western interference" in Afghanistan Maitri108? And what happens when it's found that too many Afghans don't want change - at least not the type which would further women's interests?

Nobody pretends that what's happening is pretty, but I've yet to see any workable suggestions for what can actually be done about it and which won't lead to yet more claims that everything's the west's fault

Because those 26 people are actual humans who will almost certainly suffer persecution, torture and/or death if deported to Afghanistan?

I wish you were one of the 26 in question instead tbh.

99% of claims are approved, so why are you making a big deal out of 26 people?

I’m not sure the West are responsible for how women and girls are currently treated in Afghanistan and some other countries.

The decision to hold them as almost prisoners is down to the current rulers. The laws they bring in, which are getting worse, could be lifted if they wanted to.

Oh you need to read between the lines.

We are full to brown muslims. For thousands of Ukranians we have all the space in the world.

The amount of people who think Britain alone in the world accepts asylum seekers is just….sigh.

Why can’t people read more?!

Why would allowing entry to women under a certain asylum scheme mean accepting their male relatives?

Personally, I would send all the people who are keen on denying refuge to Afghan women to Afghanistan. But that’s just me I guess.

Best to keep an open mind if you're not already aware of a lot of the issues, Wishyouwerehere50 and to read responsibly as opposed to outlets dedicated to one point of view only

If it's actual news you're after Reuters and Associated Press, while not perfect, are often better than most, and for overviews I'd recommend finding a reputable scholar to guide you through it

While it can be hard work the results are worth it IME, and at least you'd avoid the shrieking headlines of the hideously biased rags, the lobbyists who've completely sold out and more

I'm going to do this. I can imagine it's grotesque behaviour on the part of the West.