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Mum of girls (Caitlin Moran) telling us mums of boys how to speak to our sons

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:29

Thanks 🤔

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nadine90 · 04/04/2025 16:01

She said that she’s done a lot of research for her book on men and these are some tips she’s pulled from that. As a mum of boys I’m not at all affronted. If people want to write down bits of parenting advice, people can choose to read it or not, and then decide if they agree with it or not. It’s really not something I can get riled up about.

AliBaliBee1234 · 04/04/2025 16:00

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:32

Mothers of girls are allowed to have opinions on the parenting of boys? 🤷‍♀️

It's funny because, if a boy mum has an opinion on how girls are raised it's a different matter 😊

EffortlesslyInelegant · 04/04/2025 15:59

I think the question we're all missing here is this. Has she told us how many times she had a wank whilst writing her wisdom?

sixnearlyseven · 04/04/2025 15:58

As a mum of 5 boys and 3 girls I feel similar, the whole messaging around Adolescence has been very anti boy, reign in your sons before it's too late, boys are a dangerous species etc. Yes some boys will go on to commit terrible acts but most don't, I've found them easier in some ways as teenagers

Lentilweaver · 04/04/2025 15:58

Will be a cold day in hell before I take advice from CM. She used to be mildly amusing, but has been deeply tedious and narcissistic for quite a while.

I have a girl and a boy, btw.

ScrewedByFunding · 04/04/2025 15:57

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:52

No wonder there are so many incels and misogynists among teenage boys when their mothers are so defensive and unwilling to hear what mothers of girls are saying. Every future lazy father, abusive husband and male sex offender is currently being raised in homes all over the UK.

Or the vast majority of us (including yourself I presume) are doing a perfectly fine job of raising teen boys and don't need someone who has never raised one to step in and tell us she knows best.

Umbilicat · 04/04/2025 15:56

It annoyed me too OP, but more for the fact she hasn't watched Adolescence, never too advice from others and is not qualified to give any advice at all

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:55

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:52

No wonder there are so many incels and misogynists among teenage boys when their mothers are so defensive and unwilling to hear what mothers of girls are saying. Every future lazy father, abusive husband and male sex offender is currently being raised in homes all over the UK.

What a vicious and hyperbolic post this was

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Itsamug · 04/04/2025 15:54

I used to love her, her insights were grounded in experience and I love the fact she was a working class girl from the midlands. Now she’s just another rich London lovie who probably has no idea how us plebs live anymore.

Was so disappointed that she refused to weigh in on how trans ideology impacts women. She just wants to be accepted by the liberal elite.

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:54

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:52

No wonder there are so many incels and misogynists among teenage boys when their mothers are so defensive and unwilling to hear what mothers of girls are saying. Every future lazy father, abusive husband and male sex offender is currently being raised in homes all over the UK.

Sweet Jesus!

i find it “odd” to employ the services of a mother of no sons to tell us mumsnetters how to speak to “and raise!!” Our sons

you don’t think that mumsnet could have chosen someone with a touch more… I don’t know, experience?

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Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:52

No wonder there are so many incels and misogynists among teenage boys when their mothers are so defensive and unwilling to hear what mothers of girls are saying. Every future lazy father, abusive husband and male sex offender is currently being raised in homes all over the UK.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 04/04/2025 15:52

In the week after Adolescence scared the bejesus out of every parent in the world,

A snippet from her article...

I'm a parent, have been for 36 years and it didn't scare the bejesus out of me...
mainly as I haven't watched it.

I took very little parenting advice from people I knew let alone strangers,

Of those I did know that offered it had a majority of them spent as much time taking their own advice and minded their kids instead of trying to interfere with mine they'd have spotted the signs that it was indeed themselves that needed to heed their own advice.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/04/2025 15:51

I think it’s daft to make such a distinction between Mums of girls and Mums of boys. Both in terms of the advice given and the giver. Yes there will be some distinct issues but we also have to remember all kids are different.

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:51

Serriadh · 04/04/2025 15:48

I have a son AND he hasn’t killed anyone (as far as I know). Can mumsnet pay me £££ to share some advice too?

I’d be more open to that than this!

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Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:50

Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:48

So talk to your girls, as I will mine

have you read it? It’s utterly banal trite anyway

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It is banal, I agree. What do we say to our girls to stop them being murdered by incels? Is there a magic word?

Cyclebabble · 04/04/2025 15:50

I like Caitlin Moran. I think she is thoughtful and funny. I am not sure that the fact she does not have boys is that relevant TBH. She does produce some very good ideas. I have read her books on how to be a girl. having worked in the media for 30 plus years she will know more than most about toxic masculinity.

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:49

Oh it gets better

the banner say she will tell us “how to talk AND RAISE” our teen sons😂

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Serriadh · 04/04/2025 15:48

I have a son AND he hasn’t killed anyone (as far as I know). Can mumsnet pay me £££ to share some advice too?

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:48

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:46

Presumably also based on fearing for her girls' futures?

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So talk to your girls, as I will mine

have you read it? It’s utterly banal trite anyway

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Davros · 04/04/2025 15:47

What banner? I never look at the MN homepage, I use the app for Talk only

LookingAtMyBhunas · 04/04/2025 15:47

I've just read it. Tbf she clearly says at the start that the tips are from parenting expert and psychiatrists etc who she got advice from when researching her book.

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Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:47

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:45

Presumably she feels she has a vested interest in how boy parents are parenting their future men? 🤷‍♀️

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Yup

i reckon she’d be a little 🤔in our shoes
but given she’s been paid for it, and self promotion , i don’t suppose she spent too much time navel gazing about it

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Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:46

ByMerryKoala · 04/04/2025 15:43

Moran, who cowardly absented herself from the trans debates because she wasn't qualified to speak, has advice to mothers of boys based on...watching Adolescence?

Presumably also based on fearing for her girls' futures?

Smallmercies · 04/04/2025 15:45

Suitablefor · 04/04/2025 15:43

Indeed

so following that line of thought, it seems an odd choice of mumsnet to employ the services of the mother of daughters and no son to advise us how we should speak to “our teen sons”

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Presumably she feels she has a vested interest in how boy parents are parenting their future men? 🤷‍♀️

ByMerryKoala · 04/04/2025 15:43

Moran, who cowardly absented herself from the trans debates because she wasn't qualified to speak, has advice to mothers of boys based on...watching Adolescence?

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