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SallySooo · 02/04/2025 18:28

My child age 2 was crying so I came to take over and my nanny wouldn’t let me. I said about 3 or 4 times I will give her a cuddle and she wouldn’t look at me and hugged my child and wouldn’t pass her to me. I ended up leaving the room. Is this normal for a nanny? Is it really necessary to be so territorial. I understand she’s doing her job but surely if someone at my work came over to my desk to talk I would look away from my computer and talk to them or let them speak to the client or whatever they were asking to do

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SallySooo · 10/04/2025 17:07

Calliopespa · 09/04/2025 23:31

Yes I agree there is something off in the tone in that respect. Right from the start of the thread op has focused on the fact it is MY child, MY feelings, MY employee, MY right to mother her, MY right to dismiss the nanny … There hasn’t been much openness to the idea that this nanny and the child would - and should - have a bond that develops in the time they spend together . Most parents recognise - and, for the child’s sake, want - that to be something solid, not something they see as being able to be swept aside because mum hapoens to be there to trump it, because mum is wanting to dispense with the nanny because she is moving/ nanny has irked employer and all the other lines advanced here. It just all seems a bit blind to others.

Ouch ;)

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SallySooo · 10/04/2025 17:05

Calliopespa · 09/04/2025 23:22

I wasn’t suggesting your DD minded coming to her mum; I was suggesting that from a bigger picture standpoint it might be better for her to have a stabilised routine where she knows that time with nanny is just that - given that often you won’t be there to intervene.

At our DC’s nursery we were always told it made it harder for children to settle once the parent left if they loitered and blurred the childcare/ parent time boundary. It wasn’t that the child minded the parent being there, but rather that children feel more secure with clarity about these arrangements.

@Calliopespathank you. We are not talking about a nursery or school setting though. We are talking about our own home. Are you of the view that when you’re in your pyjamas, it’s early evening, you have a nanny in your house with several children and you shouldn’t go and see your child?

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Calliopespa · 09/04/2025 23:31

AnnaBalfour · 09/04/2025 18:02

You can tell a lot from your tone and line of reasoning , it is really coming across.

I agree that mums need to comfort our child so I don’t disagree with you on that at all but there’s something very off about the way you speak about being her boss and not vice versa.

Yes I agree there is something off in the tone in that respect. Right from the start of the thread op has focused on the fact it is MY child, MY feelings, MY employee, MY right to mother her, MY right to dismiss the nanny … There hasn’t been much openness to the idea that this nanny and the child would - and should - have a bond that develops in the time they spend together . Most parents recognise - and, for the child’s sake, want - that to be something solid, not something they see as being able to be swept aside because mum hapoens to be there to trump it, because mum is wanting to dispense with the nanny because she is moving/ nanny has irked employer and all the other lines advanced here. It just all seems a bit blind to others.

Calliopespa · 09/04/2025 23:22

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:32

@Calliopespa thanks, I’m 100% certain that when my toddler goes from mummy to daddy to nanny to mummy to daddy she is fine

I wasn’t suggesting your DD minded coming to her mum; I was suggesting that from a bigger picture standpoint it might be better for her to have a stabilised routine where she knows that time with nanny is just that - given that often you won’t be there to intervene.

At our DC’s nursery we were always told it made it harder for children to settle once the parent left if they loitered and blurred the childcare/ parent time boundary. It wasn’t that the child minded the parent being there, but rather that children feel more secure with clarity about these arrangements.

JorgyPorgy · 09/04/2025 23:11

Perhaps nanny worries that child will cry sometime when you’re not there & she won’t be able to soothe them because they’ll say they want mummy? Then her job gets harder? Perhaps it’s in the nanny training handbook !! I can see why you’re a bit upset though . I don’t think it’s sackable

SpringIsSpringing25 · 09/04/2025 23:09

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:56

@Sofiewoo please learn when to use apostrophes. Nannies are plural.

Perhaps you should read your own posts before you criticise others.

Manyplanetsfromthesun · 09/04/2025 23:01

AnnaBalfour · 09/04/2025 18:02

You can tell a lot from your tone and line of reasoning , it is really coming across.

I agree that mums need to comfort our child so I don’t disagree with you on that at all but there’s something very off about the way you speak about being her boss and not vice versa.

Agreed.

You can have a collaborative approach with your nanny, in which case you work together as a team; or you can take the ‘I’m the boss, I say what goes’… I don’t think you can have both. I posted on this thread a few days ago.

Your posts since make me think this isn’t a ‘nanny’ problem, increasingly I think you would be very hard to work for. And I say that as someone with a full time (bloody fabulous) nanny. She’s not Mary Poppins but I hugely trust her, respect her and we each forgive each others human flaws.

AnnaBalfour · 09/04/2025 18:02

You can tell a lot from your tone and line of reasoning , it is really coming across.

I agree that mums need to comfort our child so I don’t disagree with you on that at all but there’s something very off about the way you speak about being her boss and not vice versa.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/04/2025 17:52

It is hard being a nanny and trying to do your job when parents at home as kids do behave diff for them/you and us

obv working in a home is personal and not like an office job but the laptop analogy did describe it right

children do learn Quick, learning from a young age that if nanny says no. They cry. Parents come and investigate and nanny feel undermined esp if the parents ‘take over’

ive said many times covid killed nannying due to pwah much more

ScaryM0nster · 09/04/2025 13:21

Looking at it from a step back - how often do you and your nanny have proper ‘check in’ type conversations.

The kind of stuff you’d cover in a 1:1 if you were in a corporate setting with manager and employee.

On various ‘in home staff’ type situations the lack of those often seems to be a factor in issues developing. Small things brew rather than get talked about, expectations and perceptions of expectations drift.

In this case it might have been that the nanny thought that you were only offering because you felt you had too, and you’d be frustrated by them taking up your offer. Best intentions all round, but a gap.

224RainandSunshine · 09/04/2025 13:12

Some people want a nanny that comes in, takes over the house 9-5, you don't have to worry or intervene at all.

Some want a nanny that is more of a helper, so you're around more, they do only as directed etc.

That's what interviews and job descriptions are for. You seem to have something against nannies which is weird as hell. Don't have one if you don't want to. I love mine. And I love that my child absolutely adored her.

Hollietree · 09/04/2025 13:09

It’s very clear that you hate nannies “who do they think they are” and trying to argue with anyone who says they are a Nanny on here. I would suggest you find a nursery instead. Then you can walk around feeling as welcome as you like in your own home.

Sofiewoo · 09/04/2025 12:59

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:56

@Sofiewoo please learn when to use apostrophes. Nannies are plural.

From this thread it’s pretty obvious you love a power trip. Good luck with that.

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:56

@Sofiewoo please learn when to use apostrophes. Nannies are plural.

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SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:56

Sofiewoo · 09/04/2025 12:54

Honestly is this is something you “see” from several Nannie’s then perhaps you’re the problem.

@Sofiewoo LOL.

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Sofiewoo · 09/04/2025 12:54

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:24

@DaisyChain505 if my boss said to me actually let
me handle that Q from the client, I would say to him oh you’ve hired me to do this job and now you’re taking it away from me. The reason I’m challenging you is that I see this attitude from some
Nannies (not all) and I can’t help but think who do you all think you are. You’re not better than the rest of the working world. We are all just working hard paying a salary and if our boss wants to do something we can’t tell them to sod off

Honestly is this is something you “see” from several Nannie’s then perhaps you’re the problem.

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:46

@Hollietree agree that Nannies can quit and employers can terminate Nannies. Glad that’s clear !

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SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:45

Hollietree · 09/04/2025 12:37

No we can’t tell our boss to sod off, but if we feel undermined and like we can’t do our job properly, and we aren’t enjoying the job…… we can quit. And find a job that better suits us.

Despite your claim that Nanny jobs are rarer these days due to more parents working from home, I have never been more in demand as a Nanny. When I interviewed for my last position six months ago I went to eight Nanny interviews within a week, I was offered all eight jobs and could pick and choose the one I liked best. Guess what - it was the one the parents worked mostly in a separate workplace. And reassured me that when they were working from home, they would sometimes pop in and out to see the kids but having had Nannies before they were mindful of making sure not to undermine the Nanny.

It’s fine if you want a more Mother’s Helper role and someone who will step back and let you take over when you walk into the room. But you need to make your expectations very clear when interviewing Nannies. And understand that your position will appeal to younger and less experienced Nannies, rather than someone more qualified and experienced.

@Hollietree that’s great that Nannies are in demand. I did make the expectation clear in interview yes (I said I don’t want to feel unwelcome in my own home etc)

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SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:44

Rictasmorticia · 09/04/2025 12:42

It seems like the child was crying because she did not want to do the thing the nanny wanted. I think this was just a misunderstanding. She felt her position was undermined. You were not in a position to fully understand why she was crying. If you had comforted the child she may have thought she did not need to do as nanny wanted. These things happen even between parents. I would let it go.

@Rictasmorticia thanks no the toddler was just emotional from a long day (nanny confirmed this)

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BoredZelda · 09/04/2025 12:42

SallySooo · 02/04/2025 18:43

@AirFryerCrumpet no. This is the problem with these threads - employers are assumed to be potentially full of issues but I am actually extremely decent and very very careful to ensure she’s happy as I know it means my kids will be happy if she’s happy etc.

In that case, this is a one off and you shouldn’t worry about it.

Rictasmorticia · 09/04/2025 12:42

It seems like the child was crying because she did not want to do the thing the nanny wanted. I think this was just a misunderstanding. She felt her position was undermined. You were not in a position to fully understand why she was crying. If you had comforted the child she may have thought she did not need to do as nanny wanted. These things happen even between parents. I would let it go.

Hollietree · 09/04/2025 12:37

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:24

@DaisyChain505 if my boss said to me actually let
me handle that Q from the client, I would say to him oh you’ve hired me to do this job and now you’re taking it away from me. The reason I’m challenging you is that I see this attitude from some
Nannies (not all) and I can’t help but think who do you all think you are. You’re not better than the rest of the working world. We are all just working hard paying a salary and if our boss wants to do something we can’t tell them to sod off

No we can’t tell our boss to sod off, but if we feel undermined and like we can’t do our job properly, and we aren’t enjoying the job…… we can quit. And find a job that better suits us.

Despite your claim that Nanny jobs are rarer these days due to more parents working from home, I have never been more in demand as a Nanny. When I interviewed for my last position six months ago I went to eight Nanny interviews within a week, I was offered all eight jobs and could pick and choose the one I liked best. Guess what - it was the one the parents worked mostly in a separate workplace. And reassured me that when they were working from home, they would sometimes pop in and out to see the kids but having had Nannies before they were mindful of making sure not to undermine the Nanny.

It’s fine if you want a more Mother’s Helper role and someone who will step back and let you take over when you walk into the room. But you need to make your expectations very clear when interviewing Nannies. And understand that your position will appeal to younger and less experienced Nannies, rather than someone more qualified and experienced.

IridescentRainbow · 09/04/2025 12:35

Ex nanny here. She’s wrong. Part of her job is to make sure that the child in her care knows who her mother is, and helps preserve that relationship.

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 12:32

@Calliopespa thanks, I’m 100% certain that when my toddler goes from mummy to daddy to nanny to mummy to daddy she is fine

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Calliopespa · 09/04/2025 12:30

SallySooo · 09/04/2025 11:44

@DaisyChain505 thanks for this. How do you feel about the fact that you might unintentionally make your employer feel unwelcome in their own home or your employer feeling nervous to come and see their toddler after not having seen them all day? How do you feel about the fact that your employer may increasingly look forward to your home time so that they can feel at home? I work but not as a nanny. I know that to get ahead I need to be liked and people need to enjoy my company. Surely by making it so clear you don’t want the parents around, you’re less likely to be wanted around?

I guess that’s if the parents are making their own feelings huge in this.

Honestly, most people I know with nannies are more razor focused on what works best for the child.