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redbull5 · 02/04/2025 09:26

I know I will be flamed, I don't know where to start with this, I went on a dates, it was ok, I didn't know he was married at first, I found out recently, he told me, I didn't suspect as he was happy to text/call all different times/no secrecy etc. I obviously stopped speaking/said wasn't interested when I found this out. Since then he has sent a few messages asking if I would consider a arrangement to meet weekly (in hotel) for sex, as he wants a long term woman/arrangement like this in exchange for money. He is Turkish,I am English. He is rich, I am poor. I don't think I will do It as it doesn't sit well but am I unreasonable to be tempted a bit by 600 a month when I am really struggling for money right now, in rent arrears, in overdraft soon as I am paid etc and before I knew he was married I did find him attractive and would of slept with him on the next date anyway I think. It feels wrong and dirty but is it really unreasonable to have thought about it and not said automatic no when you are really struggling with money, I considered to do it for around 6 months to clear my overdraft so I could start fresh as I can never catch up with that

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Titasaducksarse · 02/04/2025 16:08

If the arrangement suits all parties then what is the issue?

uncomfortablydumb60 · 02/04/2025 16:06

Vile

ginasevern · 02/04/2025 16:05

Don't do it OP. I would be very concerned for your safety. Turkish and Arab men often don't want "normal" sex from white women. It can be violent and violating. He might also be grooming you for something else or he might bring "friends" with him.

SpikyCoconut · 02/04/2025 16:04

People throw the word 'prostitute' around like 'Eeeewwww you'll be one of THOSE awful women!'

Eeew the humanity-you'll be having SEX!' like millions of other people do, many with strangers, withOUT the payment.

I'll never understand this.

I don't think I could do it-mainly because he's married and I'm gay but overall, why is this different to OP going out and having casual sex which many of us think is fine.
I would ask for more after a couple of times OP. Tell him he wasn't very good. Wink

MissDoubleU · 02/04/2025 16:01

AboogaBooga · 02/04/2025 15:53

Girl. £1000/session minimum. Raise the bar!

It’s morally wrong of course, but you would’ve done it for free so might as well make some real money. If I’m going to be treated like a prostitute, then I want to be a high end escort, not a $2 hooker.

Edited

Literally though!

Girlfriend experience can be clocked in at a daily rate separate to the sex. I know girls who offer this like I said before. One who does zero sexual contact with clients but charges £300 per 24 hours.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 02/04/2025 15:59

If you look on escort sites they are charging 300-600 PER HOUR. The reason he's asking for this is he's trying to get a bargain...gross!!

If you wanted to do it, you should charge much much more, and also be aware of your safety...think of the girl who was recently found in Dubai with all bones broken at the side of the road. This man clearly doesn't respect women, so your safety would be at risk unless you took precautions and had protection.

MissDoubleU · 02/04/2025 15:54

redbull5 · 02/04/2025 15:49

It was for once a week on average, couple of hours, daytime, not full night, plus to be available to text/flirt/ make it seem more normal dating plus a once a week meet. I'm not doing it! I just wanted to discuss it and not something I can in real life really that's all, thanks for all opinions/warnings/ideas :)

And I am giving you my opinion that when you weigh up all the time put in, including regular texting between and giving the “girlfriend experience” £600 for the month is a very meagre offering. When you include sex into that bargain it’s quite offensive.

Was he planning on booking a hotel for “a few hours” in the daytime then ?

I’m not saying you are doing it, but theoretically I was working out what your hourly rate would be in this scenario. The 12.50 an hour was in the basis of 12 hours in a week, which I still don’t think is unfair between the few hours of actual sex/in person and any phone calls, texting, and other time you put into planning and thinking about this relationship.

He was offering you very little over minimum wage to be an on-call secret affair partner. Realistically.

Again, if he offered you his £600 for one evening of casual sex I think there would be less judgement. He isn’t valuing your time, energy, effort or the emotional toll this would clearly take on any woman.

AboogaBooga · 02/04/2025 15:53

Girl. £1000/session minimum. Raise the bar!

It’s morally wrong of course, but you would’ve done it for free so might as well make some real money. If I’m going to be treated like a prostitute, then I want to be a high end escort, not a $2 hooker.

redbull5 · 02/04/2025 15:49

MissDoubleU · 02/04/2025 15:43

100%! £600 per night maybe, not for 4-5 completely separate evenings of having his way.

PP are saying “50 an hour” but if he’s booked a hotel for the night each time and expects her company for that entire night we are talking minimum of 12 hours. 4 times a month is 48 hours.

Not being funny here ladies, but that would even out at 12.50 an hour. Fair enough she wouldn’t have her legs open that entire time, but she would have to be nice to him if he’s wanting that “girlfriend/side piece” experience. 12.50 an hour?

That’s pennies over national minimum wage.

It was for once a week on average, couple of hours, daytime, not full night, plus to be available to text/flirt/ make it seem more normal dating plus a once a week meet. I'm not doing it! I just wanted to discuss it and not something I can in real life really that's all, thanks for all opinions/warnings/ideas :)

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redbull5 · 02/04/2025 15:44

I think people are taking things out of context and not how I meant at all. I am happy I posted for the risks I didn't see at first.

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MissDoubleU · 02/04/2025 15:43

W0tnow · 02/04/2025 15:14

I wouldn’t judge someone in your position but I’d charg a LOT more.

100%! £600 per night maybe, not for 4-5 completely separate evenings of having his way.

PP are saying “50 an hour” but if he’s booked a hotel for the night each time and expects her company for that entire night we are talking minimum of 12 hours. 4 times a month is 48 hours.

Not being funny here ladies, but that would even out at 12.50 an hour. Fair enough she wouldn’t have her legs open that entire time, but she would have to be nice to him if he’s wanting that “girlfriend/side piece” experience. 12.50 an hour?

That’s pennies over national minimum wage.

BeaAndBen · 02/04/2025 15:42

pinkyredrose · 02/04/2025 10:03

More than one man? What makes you think that?

Because that’s how some of the grooming gangs worked?

Obvnotthegolden · 02/04/2025 15:17

NuitDeSable · 02/04/2025 09:54

Chances are when you get to the hotel room there will be more than one man waiting in there.

Don't degrade yourself even further my prostituting your body go someone who sees you as nothing but a place to insert his penis.

Do you really think you'd ever see the money once they're done with you? You'll be man Ed and end up working for him or even trafficked.

This was my first thought. He's groomed you, stay away from him.

W0tnow · 02/04/2025 15:14

I wouldn’t judge someone in your position but I’d charg a LOT more.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 02/04/2025 15:10

What's his number?

Shatteredallthetimelately · 02/04/2025 15:09

I'm not particularly attractive even, I'm not ugly but I'm not stunning size 12 so I don't really understand why I was propositioned for this as never have anything like this before

You don't look at the mantlepiece when youre stoking the fire.

It's not your face he's interested in.

redbull5 · 02/04/2025 15:08

Well I meant if we was dating normally (not married) then I would find it normal to have sex once per week or so at this kind of stage? Obviously not in this kind of way, but if we were both single and dating that would be pretty normal. I was asking others opinions and wether other people had been propositioned the same? But I do believe it is dodgy, without the moral stuff, I innocently went on some dates, now this, and wanted to discuss not IRL as I can't, and I'm glad I did as more risks than I seemed to understand, I didn't think about possible scams, trafficking, other men etc.

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BatchCookBabe · 02/04/2025 15:02

NuitDeSable · 02/04/2025 14:35

He's grooming you for him and his mates!

I bet he's from a different culture as this is the modus operandi to groom girls and women.

He will present as being well to do and married so that you are at arms length and he can tell you any old nonsense because he thinks you are gullible.

If you say yes to £600 he knows you are going to be an easy target to put into prostitution.

You are walking into a a trap and will belong to a gang of men, to be passed around.

This. ^ Don't do it @redbull5

Kendodd · 02/04/2025 15:01

You should get in touch with his wife and tell her exactly what he's up to.

JHound · 02/04/2025 14:57

redbull5 · 02/04/2025 14:24

Yeah I guess 600 per month, so say 150 a week for 2/3 hours daytime sex, that I would of probably happily of done if he wasn't married and it was more natural just because we was dating kind of thing, I probably would of had sex with him weekly or so if we was dating normally, it's just that it changes it. It becomes a arrangement. And it's weird.

What kind of bargain basement sex work situation is this you are considering?!

JHound · 02/04/2025 14:54

redbull5 · 02/04/2025 13:17

Well yes he is the one on tinder, who went on 3 day time dates whilst married, not me, I am not married, and I had no reason to believe he was, I also didn't have sex with him, they were quite nice standard dates with no sex, and I also didn't come up with this idea, and actually didn't reply when he said he was married, and then said I wasn't interested further...then this, so I don't really think is my fault I went on dates with married man as I tend to believe people wanting to date that they are single 🤷

But you know that he is married now.

jolies1 · 02/04/2025 14:54

redbull5 · 02/04/2025 14:24

Yeah I guess 600 per month, so say 150 a week for 2/3 hours daytime sex, that I would of probably happily of done if he wasn't married and it was more natural just because we was dating kind of thing, I probably would of had sex with him weekly or so if we was dating normally, it's just that it changes it. It becomes a arrangement. And it's weird.

£50 an hour seems like you’re short changing yourself!

MissDoubleU · 02/04/2025 14:40

BatchCookBabe · 02/04/2025 14:35

Is size 12 big now then is it? Confused

Yes and you can’t be conveniently attractive at that size either apparently. It’s a clear indication that she “isn’t much” and therefore she couldn’t dare ask for more than £150-200 a pop for her self respect.

I would tell him if he wants to pay for you he needs to pay extra for your discretion to his wife. Just to see what he says. My guess is he would block you and move to the next target.

OnyourbarksGSG · 02/04/2025 14:36

Have you considered that this could in fact be a blackmail scam? You haven’t had sex with him YET, but he’s wanting to pay you? I bet you would find yourself in a hotel room with cameras and within an hour it is you paying him so he doesn’t blow your life apart.

AD1509 · 02/04/2025 14:35

If you have ambitions of being a sex worker then crack on

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