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How to say no to flakey friend

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BeatleBattleInABottle · 02/04/2025 08:47

I like Sue but she is flakey AF and constantly cancels arrangements, normally last minute.

A few years ago she cancelled a theatre trip with 2hrs to go. She got really annoyed with me for going by myself anyway and not bothering to try and sell/give away her ticket. She moaned that she lost money. That pissed me right off and now I only arrange things that don't matter if she cancels.

It's not just me she cancels on.

I asked if anyone wanted to do an event and only Sue said yes. She always pays her way but if she cancels I'd be out of pocket for my own ticket, travel etc. Plus, I'll be really disappointed because it's not sonething I would do by myself.

I don't want to say I'm "double booked" in case someone else decides they want to do it. If someone more reliable is coming too, then it would be lovely for Sue to come or it wouldn't matter if she cancels.

So how can I politely say " I'm not booking it with just you, you flake"?

I know things crop up and everyone cancels sometimes but she is ridiculous.

OP posts:
notatinydancer · 02/04/2025 09:12

I’d only book if someone else says they’ll come.
I’m not making excuses but we have a friend like this , she always fully intends to come but has anxiety and often on the day she just can’t. We always get the money up front or tell her to book separately.
She missed a holiday once , she must have lost thousands over the years.

Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2025 09:12

BeatleBattleInABottle · 02/04/2025 09:05

In the 2 months...

  1. Pulled out of a meal with friends. We did it anyway.
  2. Cancelled drinks with colleagues (which she organised!). We did it anyway.
  3. Cancelled a coffee with me x 2
  4. Pulled out of a cinema trip with me. I went anyway.
  5. Pulled out of a work trip with me. I went with someone else. TBF, I can understand this one.

What we DID do:

  1. Got a sandwich in the staff canteen together x 2.

I mentioned the theatre because that was the last straw. As you can see above, I don't do anything with just her anymore unless it's something I'm willing to cancel or do by myself.

Edited

Yeah, that’s bonkers. I’d tell her the truth - you’re a flake, sorry!

lazycats · 02/04/2025 09:09

BeatleBattleInABottle · 02/04/2025 09:05

In the 2 months...

  1. Pulled out of a meal with friends. We did it anyway.
  2. Cancelled drinks with colleagues (which she organised!). We did it anyway.
  3. Cancelled a coffee with me x 2
  4. Pulled out of a cinema trip with me. I went anyway.
  5. Pulled out of a work trip with me. I went with someone else. TBF, I can understand this one.

What we DID do:

  1. Got a sandwich in the staff canteen together x 2.

I mentioned the theatre because that was the last straw. As you can see above, I don't do anything with just her anymore unless it's something I'm willing to cancel or do by myself.

Edited

Yeah, that’s ridiculous. The suggestion above that you say to friends it’s only worth it if three of you go is good, and if she moans then just remind her of what you’ve written here.

Phoenix1Arisen · 02/04/2025 09:09

Why do you describe her as a friend? From that list, she isn't a friend, just a taker who will happily use you when, and if, it suits her. There's a word for that kind of attitude - selfish.

BeatleBattleInABottle · 02/04/2025 09:07

RickiRaccoon · 02/04/2025 09:06

If she's so flakey I wouldn't put too much thought into politely flaking on her. Just say, "Actually I've thought about it and don't want to go anymore."

But I do! 🤣

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RickiRaccoon · 02/04/2025 09:06

If she's so flakey I wouldn't put too much thought into politely flaking on her. Just say, "Actually I've thought about it and don't want to go anymore."

BeatleBattleInABottle · 02/04/2025 09:05

Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2025 08:57

The only example you’ve given was (albeit a bad experience) several years ago.

How often is she flakey? Can you create a list?
If so, I’d be honest with her and say you won’t arrange it with just her in case she lets you down again, but if someone else wants to join in you’d be happy to all go together.

In the 2 months...

  1. Pulled out of a meal with friends. We did it anyway.
  2. Cancelled drinks with colleagues (which she organised!). We did it anyway.
  3. Cancelled a coffee with me x 2
  4. Pulled out of a cinema trip with me. I went anyway.
  5. Pulled out of a work trip with me. I went with someone else. TBF, I can understand this one.

What we DID do:

  1. Got a sandwich in the staff canteen together x 2.

I mentioned the theatre because that was the last straw. As you can see above, I don't do anything with just her anymore unless it's something I'm willing to cancel or do by myself.

OP posts:
Pl242 · 02/04/2025 09:03

Just say in the group chat “think we need a least one more person to make a night of it. Any other takers? If not, let’s just leave it”

if your flakey friend persists re planning it just you two, just tell her straight that you’re worried, given her track record, that she’ll cancel last minute. And as it’s not something you’d go to alone to don’t want to pay for something that might not happen.

BeatleBattleInABottle · 02/04/2025 08:58

researchers3 · 02/04/2025 08:50

Can you not go alone? What's the activity? If it was theatre it wouldn't stop me from going alone although I'd rather go with someone.

But no, yanbu, flakes are awful. You could say something has come up and you can no longer make it?

I did go to the theatre by myself when she cancelled on me.

Most things I'd go by myself if there was no one to go with me but this is a club evening and would be absolutely no fun by myself.

As I said, I don't want to say I can't go in case someone else decides they can.

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Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2025 08:57

The only example you’ve given was (albeit a bad experience) several years ago.

How often is she flakey? Can you create a list?
If so, I’d be honest with her and say you won’t arrange it with just her in case she lets you down again, but if someone else wants to join in you’d be happy to all go together.

rainbowstardrops · 02/04/2025 08:57

BMW6 · 02/04/2025 08:52

I'd just say sorry but you've let me down too often in the past so I'm not going to risk booking it with you.

I’d say this. At the very least I’d be asking her if she’s definitely going to turn up this time.

Maddy70 · 02/04/2025 08:56

Just say "but you always cancel!"

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 02/04/2025 08:55

BMW6 · 02/04/2025 08:52

I'd just say sorry but you've let me down too often in the past so I'm not going to risk booking it with you.

This

Boligrafo · 02/04/2025 08:55

I’d be entirely upfront and say what you’ve said here. That she has a habit of cancelling last minute, and as it’s not something you would do alone, you don’t want to be out of pocket for ticket and travel.

Whatatodo79 · 02/04/2025 08:54

What about asking if she is sure she's going ti make it?

QuickPeachPoet · 02/04/2025 08:53

BMW6 · 02/04/2025 08:52

I'd just say sorry but you've let me down too often in the past so I'm not going to risk booking it with you.

This. It’s really shitty behaviour and would be telling her so.

BMW6 · 02/04/2025 08:52

I'd just say sorry but you've let me down too often in the past so I'm not going to risk booking it with you.

researchers3 · 02/04/2025 08:50

Can you not go alone? What's the activity? If it was theatre it wouldn't stop me from going alone although I'd rather go with someone.

But no, yanbu, flakes are awful. You could say something has come up and you can no longer make it?