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To think traditional English food is overrated?

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ThatJoyousCyanReader · 01/04/2025 20:50

I’ve always heard people say English food is bland or uncreative, and to be honest, I kind of see their point. Apart from a good roast dinner or fish and chips, what actually stands out? AIBU to think that other cuisines just do it better?

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WorkingMum1391 · 02/04/2025 10:06

Has no one mentioned any traditional Scottish dishes yet? I love Cullen skink, stovies (made with square, not links or leftover roast beef... side eyeing Aberdeen) and, skirlie and black pudding. I'm not a huge fan of haggis but not because I'm squeamish about what it's made from, I just find it a bit rich!

As for English food, I'm not a massive fan of a roast dinner, I just find it a bit plain.
Shepards pie and fish and chips are delicious.

Absolutely detest a trifle, summer pudding, bread and butter pudding or any others of a similar nature

caramac04 · 02/04/2025 10:06

Re spices - not everyone likes spices. I don’t. Some peoples taste buds have been wrecked by spices and can’t taste the nuances of tasty food.
Due to a medical condition I have no sense of smell and very little sense of taste. This means if I eat a spicy dish I only get the heat (to me it’s a burn) and not any of the flavour. So to me a lot of spice ruins a meal for me. I like a veg biriani as that’s not spicy.
What I don’t understand is that the French are not pilloried for preferring their cuisine to others yet if I say I prefer English/British food I’m often mocked or worse - people feel sorry for me in a patronising manner.
My kids love lots of different dishes including spicy foods but still love my dinners.

Hankunamatata · 02/04/2025 10:05

With any it was needs good quality, fresh ingredients

LuckySantangelo35 · 02/04/2025 10:04

JingsMahBucket · 02/04/2025 09:14

God yes. That’s boring and bland as hell. Salad cream…

@HelloPossible

yes. Sounds boring and bland.

Moglet4 · 02/04/2025 10:02

ThatJoyousCyanReader · 01/04/2025 20:50

I’ve always heard people say English food is bland or uncreative, and to be honest, I kind of see their point. Apart from a good roast dinner or fish and chips, what actually stands out? AIBU to think that other cuisines just do it better?

I genuinely don’t think any country apart from maybe the French can compare with British baking (I include the Austrians in that) or puddings. For mains, yes, some other countries do it better but that doesn’t mean British staples aren’t delicious and varied - it just sounds like you haven’t tried much!

teledays · 02/04/2025 10:01

Roast shoulder of lamb is comforting and can be delicious but is it exciting ? Unfortunately not and I like my food to excite my palate.

teledays · 02/04/2025 09:59

BritishFoodFan · 02/04/2025 08:52

It's obvious nonsense, this country has the most incredible produce available, if you can't make wonderful food from it that's entirely down to your poor cooking skills.

I hosted a lunch to celebrate my mother's 80th birthday recently and cooked using local, seasonal ingredients.

We started with canapés of mackerel tatre on sourdough toasts, English asparagus with a watercress mayonnaise, goat's curd tarts with spring herbs and crispy stuffed Jerusalem artichokes.

For starter we had clams and mussels in cider and wild garlic with sourdough made by a local bakery.

Then a small cup of sorrel soup.

Main was slow roast shoulder of lamb from the butcher and about as local as it gets, cooked in wine, chicken stock, a couple of bulbs of garlic, whole shallots and finished with peas and fresh mint. Just served really simply with some buttered local potatoes.

Little palate cleanser of blood orange sorbet (and yes, I know they're imported, but they are in season!).

Then lemon and rhubarb posset with a little rhubarb and gin cocktail and brown butter shortbread.

A spring cheese plate with goat's and ewe's cheese and local honey with Neil's Yard crackers.

Some homemade ganache and honey caramels.

We had some really good English fizz and white wine ( went French for the red as I don't think we're quite there yet with our red wine production).

Somerset brandy or various single malts as digestif.

With the exception of the citrus fruit, peppercorns, capers in the tatare, sugar, vanilla pods and chocolate that was all UK produce and pretty traditional British food.

What's not to like?

Spices. Where are the spices ? Everyone has difference palates. Mine craves spice and interest so English food is far too bland for me.

RedOnyx · 02/04/2025 09:52

How can it be overrated if everyone thinks it's shit?

I live abroad and I miss proper bacon, Cornish pasties, English sausages - Bratwurst is fine but I would love a proper, good quality English sausage for a change!
I love cottage pie and make it quite often. Not sure why a well made cottage pie is any worse than lasagne or moussaka? I love both of those but I've definitely eaten some very bland lasagne!

Doitrightnow · 02/04/2025 09:50

I agree with some pps that it depends on the ingredients and how it's cooked. I've had some amazing roasts and some terrible ones. Some amazing sausages and some that are a crime against food. Similarly with fish and chips, chocolate cake, curry, pizza... Anything.

I love English food but also love Indian, Chinese, Greek, French.... But I've had bad versions of all of them.

Yeahno · 02/04/2025 09:47

I am not English. I think that the people who don't like British food have met a lot of lazy cooks or they are lazy cooks themselves. Getting the good stuff takes time and effort whatever the cuisine. A lot of people can't be bothered with the effort it takes to make a good meal and then take a lot of shortcuts. The end product looks similar to the original but is lacking in flavour.
I like flavour and spices, I also like British food.

Epli · 02/04/2025 09:40

Not fan of the average quality of food you can get in the UK, but it is the price you pay for relatively low prices (in comparison to a lot of EU countries food in the UK is reeeeally cheap) - a lot of it is mass produced and the original recipe has been changed to cut cost at the expense of flavor.

There are a lot of really good recipes and products. What I enjoy in particular:
-different types of pies
-sausages, especially herby ones
-cheese (I looove good cheddar)
-different sandwich fillings
-beer

YourBestFriend · 02/04/2025 09:37

Overrated? That implies that British food is held in high regard which is clearly not the case.

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 09:36

JingsMahBucket · 02/04/2025 09:27

The issue is the stodge. It’s always big globs of (commercial) salad cream not reasonable amounts of homemade versions. Let’s be real here.

It isn't compulsory to eat stodgy food. It is perfectly possible to eat a low carb British diet.

You seem to lack imagination and creativity when it comes to food.

Goldenbear · 02/04/2025 09:30

Thatusernamewastaken · 01/04/2025 22:27

Yes, find it very underwhelming and overrated by English people. Just a load of mash and variants of potato. Still, could be worse, could be Scandinavian cuisine, or even worse, the Netherlands.

How's Scandinavian food worse than English food. Have you spent a significant amount of time in a Scandinavian country having every day food? My extended family in a Scandinavian country love English cheddar they like the shop bought basic stuff as well. However, maybe it is your taste buds but I wouldn't say it is any worse or better than English food.

BritishFoodFan · 02/04/2025 09:28

JingsMahBucket · 02/04/2025 09:27

The issue is the stodge. It’s always big globs of (commercial) salad cream not reasonable amounts of homemade versions. Let’s be real here.

Not in my world!

JingsMahBucket · 02/04/2025 09:27

BritishFoodFan · 02/04/2025 09:19

Homemade salad cream is great, it's just a slightly more acidic and thinner mayonnaise really.

The issue is the stodge. It’s always big globs of (commercial) salad cream not reasonable amounts of homemade versions. Let’s be real here.

DataColour · 02/04/2025 09:25

I'm from a south asian country and I'm a pretty good cook of all types of cuisines and cook from scratch everyday. I LOVE English food. Cottage or shepards pie, roasts, fish and chips, pies, all the various cakes and puddings, what's not to like?!
I'd take a roast over a burrito any day!
My kids love spice and eclectic food, but their favourite is still a roast. Perhaps it's the cooking of it - you need to do it well.

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 09:24

Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2025 09:18

The Brits do great comfort/winter food, but are a bit ‘meh’ in the summer, imo.

Edited

I disagree, but I cook from scratch and watch a lot of cookery shows and get loads of inspiration from them and online.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 02/04/2025 09:23

sashh · 02/04/2025 09:07

It felt like it.

And you were wrong.

No.
Will chat more about it tomorrow night if you want. 😄
It's going on for 1:30am over here on the west coast of north America and I'm very tired having been up all night with my baby and 3 year old... 🥱

BritishFoodFan · 02/04/2025 09:23

Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2025 09:18

The Brits do great comfort/winter food, but are a bit ‘meh’ in the summer, imo.

Edited

One word;

Picnics.

BritishFoodFan · 02/04/2025 09:19

JingsMahBucket · 02/04/2025 09:14

God yes. That’s boring and bland as hell. Salad cream…

Homemade salad cream is great, it's just a slightly more acidic and thinner mayonnaise really.

Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2025 09:18

The Brits do great comfort/winter food, but are a bit ‘meh’ in the summer, imo.

Loub1987 · 02/04/2025 09:18

It’s all about variety, I would be bored eating any countries traditional cuisine all the time. About a decade ago I lived in a small city in China for a year. There was no real option for internal cuisine. By the end of the year, I was so sick of the delicious local food and was desperate for a Shepard’s pie.

Itsgettinghotouthere · 02/04/2025 09:16

If itbis cooked well, seasonal so the vegetables etc at at their best it is amazing.

Tradersinsnow · 02/04/2025 09:15

Booboobagins · 01/04/2025 22:18

Wow what sort of post is this @ThatJoyousCyanReader do I take it you're not British/English? If you're not I don't give a flying f about your opinion.

Us Brits are a live and let live lot, so you eat wtf you like and leave us to decide what we want to eat. Many gastro pubs serve British fayre and both are fabulous and do well out of it.

I can cook many cuisines, my dad was a chef, but I measure cuisine by my fussy dogs. They won't eat pasta, Mediterranean, Thai, Chinese, Mexican (without heavy spices obviously) etc. but by gosh they wolf English food.

I don't think what you feed your dogs is quite the flex you seem to think it is.