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To think traditional English food is overrated?

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ThatJoyousCyanReader · 01/04/2025 20:50

I’ve always heard people say English food is bland or uncreative, and to be honest, I kind of see their point. Apart from a good roast dinner or fish and chips, what actually stands out? AIBU to think that other cuisines just do it better?

OP posts:
JollyMember · 02/04/2025 23:44

springbringshope · 02/04/2025 22:53

When was the last time you had any food with those herbs/spices?
and ‘currie’ means boggy plain you donut.
curry comes from kari. A Tamil word.

You are wrong. Currie was explicitly used in a 16th century English cookbook to mean a spiced meat dish.

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 23:02

JudgeJ · 02/04/2025 23:00

Rubbish, come back when you learn to read this thread.

Interestingly, many of the posters on here who are from the rest of the world have been very complimentary about our food.

JudgeJ · 02/04/2025 23:00

Tbrh · 02/04/2025 02:29

The rest of the world agrees with you OP

Rubbish, come back when you learn to read this thread.

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 22:58

springbringshope · 02/04/2025 22:55

No one is suggesting England doesn’t have lots of heats and fish. It’s how they are cooked. They are generally just cooked to un-raw them. Fried or baked or boiled. That’s the point. No culinary art. No flavours no skill

Bad cooks cook them as you describe. Good cooks don't.

Please stop with the incorrect sweeping generalisations and maybe spend a bit more to eat at a decent restaurant instead of tarring all chefs and home cooks with the same brush.

I like my steak medium rare and that is how I cook it.

springbringshope · 02/04/2025 22:55

HeyThereDelila · 02/04/2025 21:45

YABU, proper English food historically used spices, herbs and really excellent sauces and puddings you don’t get anywhere else, as well as a wide range of meat, fish, game and soups etc.

It’s a myth that only French or Italian etc cuisine is good or flavourful.

No one is suggesting England doesn’t have lots of heats and fish. It’s how they are cooked. They are generally just cooked to un-raw them. Fried or baked or boiled. That’s the point. No culinary art. No flavours no skill

springbringshope · 02/04/2025 22:53

JollyMember · 02/04/2025 22:42

Traditional English food is spiced. The word currie is an English word dating back to the 16th century. Common hogweed, water pepper, herb bennet, spognel and many more.
However English self loathing means foods from abroad are always seen as superior.
A pub near us does some traditional English food well made. Game pie, anything but bland. Venison. Wild salmon, tastes different to famed salmon.

When was the last time you had any food with those herbs/spices?
and ‘currie’ means boggy plain you donut.
curry comes from kari. A Tamil word.

JollyMember · 02/04/2025 22:42

Traditional English food is spiced. The word currie is an English word dating back to the 16th century. Common hogweed, water pepper, herb bennet, spognel and many more.
However English self loathing means foods from abroad are always seen as superior.
A pub near us does some traditional English food well made. Game pie, anything but bland. Venison. Wild salmon, tastes different to famed salmon.

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 22:01

Readyornot8565 · 02/04/2025 21:41

Yep, I agree! Give me Greek, Turkish, Mediterranean, Vietnamese, Chinese, Thai, Mexican pretty much any other cuisine 🤣 any day.

I love all those cuisines as well as British cuisine, but I am a good cook and don't cook bland mushy food.

HeyThereDelila · 02/04/2025 21:45

YABU, proper English food historically used spices, herbs and really excellent sauces and puddings you don’t get anywhere else, as well as a wide range of meat, fish, game and soups etc.

It’s a myth that only French or Italian etc cuisine is good or flavourful.

Readyornot8565 · 02/04/2025 21:41

TimetoPour · 01/04/2025 21:01

Traditional English food is foul. Meat and vegetables served in a gravy slop. Always served with potatoes and gravy unless it is fish (which is also served with potatoes, peas and some times, a side of gravy). On posh occasions, it’s exactly the same shite wrapped in pastry!
Roast
Cottage Pie
Shepherds Pie
Stew
Casserole
Sausages
Fish and chips
Wellington
Encroute

Why the F do we still eat like Henry VIII?!
I’m sure I must have been Mediterranean in a different life. Nothing worse than all this stodgy rubbish.

Edited

Yep, I agree! Give me Greek, Turkish, Mediterranean, Vietnamese, Chinese, Thai, Mexican pretty much any other cuisine 🤣 any day.

BritishFoodFan · 02/04/2025 21:36

A nice addendum to my comments on this thread is a thank you card I received today after the lunch I held.

To think traditional English food is overrated?
KnittedFerret · 02/04/2025 18:23

@Notateacheranymore , but we've been eating things flavoured with ginger, mustard, horseradish, herbs etc for centuries.

Fizbosshoes · 02/04/2025 18:23

Considering how many countries there are in the world, or even Europe, there are not all that many where their restaurants feature regularly in a uk average town or city.
French, Italian, Spanish, Turkish or Greek....(if we're thinking European)

I don't think I've seen a German, Swiss, Austrian, Hungarian or Bulgarian restaurant. Or any Scandinavian restaurants. I did go to a Polish restaurant about 20 years ago and i didn't really like my meal. The food was too salty for my taste , but maybe I made a bad choice...

And talking of stodgy , some pasta dishes or risotto can be stodgy (if not cooked well)

PalmTreeAngel · 02/04/2025 17:28

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 17:21

I am no longer displeased Grin
The thing is all cuisines have stodgy foods as well as non stodgy foods.

This!!!

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 17:21

SCWS · 02/04/2025 17:03

Of course you can. I cook from scratch every day.

I am eternally sorry I missed a few words out and should have said “SOME can be very stodgy though…”

I’m absolutely right.

But please forgive me for displeasing you so 😂

I am no longer displeased Grin
The thing is all cuisines have stodgy foods as well as non stodgy foods.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 02/04/2025 17:16

Florsilvestredelcampo · 02/04/2025 16:20

I never understand why people go crazy for Eton Mess. It's not a recipe, it's a chef suddenly realising they've nothing to serve for dessert except broken meringue, cream and raspberries.

It's the simplicity and the combo is delicious.
What about the American Cobb salad? It also had a throw-together-what's-on-hand history.
The quintessential strawberries and cream in summer?
The perfect scone with the perfect cup of tea?
The creativity of the British home cook?
The stereotypes abound, but so does good home cooking. 😋

SCWS · 02/04/2025 17:03

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 17:00

Oh FFS.This again!

Not necessarily

The ignorance and lack of imagination shown by some posters on here beggars believe.

Grilled fish or meat with vegetables or salad,
Shepherd's pie with mashed swede instead of mashed potato, savoury mince minus the dumplings, a roast dinner without the potatoes and Yorkshires etc etc.

Do you never eat vegetables?

You can eat a healthy British stodge free diet if you put your mind to it.

Of course you can. I cook from scratch every day.

I am eternally sorry I missed a few words out and should have said “SOME can be very stodgy though…”

I’m absolutely right.

But please forgive me for displeasing you so 😂

RampantIvy · 02/04/2025 17:00

SCWS · 02/04/2025 16:53

It’s very stodgy though and I can’t stand fish and chips.

Oh FFS.This again!

Not necessarily

The ignorance and lack of imagination shown by some posters on here beggars believe.

Grilled fish or meat with vegetables or salad,
Shepherd's pie with mashed swede instead of mashed potato, savoury mince minus the dumplings, a roast dinner without the potatoes and Yorkshires etc etc.

Do you never eat vegetables?

You can eat a healthy British stodge free diet if you put your mind to it.

SCWS · 02/04/2025 16:53

It’s very stodgy though and I can’t stand fish and chips.

SCWS · 02/04/2025 16:53

Traditional British food is quite clearly based on what we had available to us through the centuries, basically what we could easily grow or raise.

It’s not rocket science. It’s pretty obvious 😂

Notateacheranymore · 02/04/2025 16:49

Well @ohdrearydrearyme, at least the use of spices was brought into the conversation as a factor.

JHound · 02/04/2025 16:46

I don’t know anybody who overrates British food. Normally they slate it. I love food from all over the globe and that includes good pub fare and English puddings (like what we had at school.)

I also LOVE a sunday roast or the simple pleasure of a jack potato.

Making a sunday roast from scratch is probably something I would like to learn to do from scratch!

I actually don’t think I have come across a country where I think their entire cuisine is terrible. It just depends on my mood as to what I want to eat.

springbringshope · 02/04/2025 16:26

AdaColeman · 01/04/2025 22:56

I don't think of it as being bland.

I enjoy things like English asparagus, Craster kippers, Kentish strawberries, Cumberland sausage, Bury black pudding, Stilton and Wensleydale cheese, English apple varieties such a Bramley and Russets.
I like a lot of the traditional cakes and puddings too.

I think English cuisine suffered a lot during the war rationing, plus that rationing was continued for so long after the war ended. It meant that a whole generation never learned to cook with plentiful good quality ingredients.

Also, England was one of the first countries to industrialise, with vast numbers of the population abandoning farming for a life in the town. This meant that not only were traditional culinary skills and recipes lost, but people needed food that was easy and quick to cook and cheap to buy.
That attitude to food has remained, which partly explains why Asian and Mexican are so popular today.
France and Italy industrialised more slowly than England, so the population held on to their regional culinary traditions much better than in England.

Britain was not out there in its own during and after the war with regards lack of quality and quantity of good food. All of Europe struggled.

Florsilvestredelcampo · 02/04/2025 16:23

Give me Australian crunch and mint custard any day maybe the big advantage of state education!

Florsilvestredelcampo · 02/04/2025 16:20

I never understand why people go crazy for Eton Mess. It's not a recipe, it's a chef suddenly realising they've nothing to serve for dessert except broken meringue, cream and raspberries.

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