To think there are too many useless men / manchild's!

Yeah... pretty much proving my point.

The problem really shows when you have children. If the man suddenly refuses to do ANYTHING ('well, you wanted children' or 'I have to work and you're at home anyway' or 'can you just do these things while I'm busy with work...') then SOMEONE has to care for the kids and make sure that the house isn't squalid. Sometimes it seems that it's only women who care. Some men think housekeeping is all about matching guest towels and choosing curtains, they don't seem to realise that keeping the place clean is essential (or they don't care).

This isn't all men, of course, but it does seem to be a very high proportion of the ones I know (and know of). They just don't care if the table isn't cleared after meals or nobody's dusted or hoovered for months. Then they plead that they 'didn't know...'

I have ADHD and struggled dreadfully as a single mum to five. I knew I HAD to keep the place clean and tidy, despite it being very very hard to apply myself, but I feared the kids being taken away if I didn't. So I did it. Left with their dad they were in squalor after a weekend, and he's NT.

So true! All this complaining about men, just stay single if you hate them so much. It's what I intend to do. Oh but no babies that way...just have to suck it up then.

Tough shit. Men are fucking useless.

Omg same 🙄

The responsibility for ensuring boys become adequate men should not just be down to mothers.

My XMiL had 3 sons and a husband and ran after them the whole time. They did absolutely nothing to help around the house. When we got married, she told me I'd have to lay out his clothes every night for him to wear to work the night before as she'd always done that for him and he'd expect it and wouldn't have a clue what to wear. Needless to say I didn't and couldn't care less if he went to work looking like a sack of tatties. He soon learned.

You're a card!

True, ALL men are playing golf and have their dinner cooked. I overlooked that insignificant detail.
Hold on, dear, this friendly team in white coats is ready to escort you to your happy place.

Nope... no man bashing on this thread!

It's not men who are foolish; they're not the ones doing all the housework, childcare and working full time. They're playing golf and having their dinner cooked.

Nah, you are talking nonsense. You sound quite biased.
Plenty of women are useless waste of space, too.
Just look a this forum! So many threads created by women are just a storm on a teacup.
Men do not have the monopoly of incompetence. Foolishness is evenly distributed across all genders, all races and all ages.

Ugly men can also be useless partners too. It’s not about looks.

I am.in no way excusing the awful behaviour of many men however I do feel many women make poor choices over who to have children with.

I think very few man actually change when children arrive, I think undesirable traits become more apparent after children are born. These traits were always there and were very often visible before starting a family. But if a guy is good-looking all sorts of things are forgiven in the early stages of a relationship

How?
Courtney Love is 60!

I've been flamed for this on many threads, and said it in many different ways.

So I will try this one

This breed of man/teen/boy would die out if women didn't give them the time of day.
I can see how it can be excused in the teens years, but in older years and after the first child.

So its not the woman's fault yet it is the woman's fault?

Don't skivvy for them. I remember a colleague moaning about having to tidy her boyfriend's flat and they weren't even living together.

Raise the bar: he doesn't see the mess, men can't clean, it's quicker to do it myself, I have higher standards...are all bullshit excuses.

Apparently he can put in 12 hour days doing a difficult job but he can't separate whites. It's a complete lack of respect and indicative that he won't lift a finger with children.

They don't always show there true colours till after children

It is commercialised crap!
I’m a mum every day, my hubby and kids are good to me every day!

Men are a pain in the fucking arse. I long for Matriarchy, because men have absolutely no business with their patriarchal bullshit running the show.

Why do women get married to or have children with these useless men? They set their standards so very low, spend most of their time enabling the crap behaviour and then on occasions like Mother’s Day, they feel hard done by.

My husband is a fantastic dad; the kindest person I know. I have never had to attempt to domesticate him - he arrived fully formed because his parents brought him up well. He is completely devoted to me and always has been.

Parents need to raise their sons to be brilliant men and women need to stop settling for anything less.

Where on earth did you grow up @cadburyegg??

I’m 55 and my 80 year old father has always pulled his weight at home. He still does! And we’re Northern so hardly a bastion of forward thinking. In fact it was my Dad who taught me how to iron (amongst other things). I don’t think he’s let anyone iron his clothes since the 1960s He also cleans and is usually up at 5am every Christmas morning to put the turkey in the oven. Just as well he’s like this as my mother wouldn’t have tolerated any of this learned male incompetence rubbish.

Not this nonsense again….

Yes wanting clean plates to eat off and clean clothes and somebody to actually give a damn about their partner is just “different standards”.

If it is just “different standards” why do so many of them conceal their true character till the woman is locked down?