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Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 11:07

Just would like some input on this.

Im being asked to send money to my sons bank account to then go into his parent pay to cover meals and school trips. I have no issue in doing this as I do earn more than his mother. I have asked to be given the details for parent pay so I can send the money directly as I also do not have access to his bank account so I have no proof that the money is actually being used for school meals and trips etc.

To give context I first asked for bank access when the acct was set up (9 years now) and to parent pay when he started at the school. My ex partner has always refused me access to both. I have until now not pushed back on this and now im doing so she is emailing me the same email about paying repeatedly.

I am more than happy to pay it I just want to see where the money goes.

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MellowPinkDeer · 01/04/2025 13:59

Snorlaxo · 01/04/2025 13:57

Playing Devil’s advocate here but how do you think she feels having to ask you for money like she’s a child? I suspect this financial crisis parent-child dynamic contributes to her attempts to control stuff like the savings account and passports.
You should move to a maintenance system so she can spend that money on whatever she needs and not have to ask you for extra. She should budget that money for trips away or whatever.

You sound very passive - time to take some action. You’re an equal parent and don’t always have to accept what she says because she’s the mum.

Buy a copy of the birth certificate and set up a new savings account that your parents can contribute to and you can see. She doesn’t want to give you access so stop creating drama and be proactive.
Tell her you want the passport back or you’ll take police action. It’s yours and she can keep the kids ones.
Consider getting a Child Arrangement Order to protect your time with the kids and stuff like her being required to tell you if she’s going away for the weekend. Most parents alternate weekends so that they can do things like visit family on their weekends but if she’d prefer another pattern say one weekend every 3/4 weeks then go for that. If you want 50/50 contact then go for it. Dads are regularly granted it as they are seen as equal parents to mums.

She is absolutely going to get less -through the CMS So she’s literally had it made this whole time he is paying the mortgage and bills and giving her money when she asks for more!!

TeenLifeMum · 01/04/2025 13:58

FidosMum84 · 01/04/2025 11:24

As far as I know there can only be one set of bank details on a Parent pay account. But you can set up another account for the same child. You can Google how to do this.
For our school it’s more than just school meals and trips, it’s to pay for event days, books etc so two accounts seems the sensible solution. School might have to confirm your account.

Completely untrue. Dh and I both have access and put payments on dc accounts depending on which of us has time.

Snorlaxo · 01/04/2025 13:57

Playing Devil’s advocate here but how do you think she feels having to ask you for money like she’s a child? I suspect this financial crisis parent-child dynamic contributes to her attempts to control stuff like the savings account and passports.
You should move to a maintenance system so she can spend that money on whatever she needs and not have to ask you for extra. She should budget that money for trips away or whatever.

You sound very passive - time to take some action. You’re an equal parent and don’t always have to accept what she says because she’s the mum.

Buy a copy of the birth certificate and set up a new savings account that your parents can contribute to and you can see. She doesn’t want to give you access so stop creating drama and be proactive.
Tell her you want the passport back or you’ll take police action. It’s yours and she can keep the kids ones.
Consider getting a Child Arrangement Order to protect your time with the kids and stuff like her being required to tell you if she’s going away for the weekend. Most parents alternate weekends so that they can do things like visit family on their weekends but if she’d prefer another pattern say one weekend every 3/4 weeks then go for that. If you want 50/50 contact then go for it. Dads are regularly granted it as they are seen as equal parents to mums.

ThDanielDay · 01/04/2025 13:57

She's taking you for an absolute mug.

Go CMS route and then additional costs can be agreed, discussed and split rather than demanded.

SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:56

You pay for all food and clothing shopping?

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:56

SauvignonBlonk · 01/04/2025 13:55

Get it all sorted out formally OP.
You're not together anymore and you need to sort some stuff out for yourself rather than expecting your ex to do it all for you.
Contact the School to get yourself added onto their system and get added to parent pay. Get a copy of the birth certificates and set up separate accounts for the children.
Use the CMS online calculator to work out the minimum payment amount and pay it,
If you are able to pay more towards the cost of your children that’s brilliant, they will benefit from this. Your ex is doing the lions share of the child rearing by the sound of things.

Agreed this is the route I'm starting on.

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SauvignonBlonk · 01/04/2025 13:55

Get it all sorted out formally OP.
You're not together anymore and you need to sort some stuff out for yourself rather than expecting your ex to do it all for you.
Contact the School to get yourself added onto their system and get added to parent pay. Get a copy of the birth certificates and set up separate accounts for the children.
Use the CMS online calculator to work out the minimum payment amount and pay it,
If you are able to pay more towards the cost of your children that’s brilliant, they will benefit from this. Your ex is doing the lions share of the child rearing by the sound of things.

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:54

WoodyOwl · 01/04/2025 13:52

If she is the resident parent, you are not topping up her income. Even if she spends the money on bills or home improvements or her car. The money is keeping your child with a roof over their head, food in their tummy, getting your child to and from school/hobbies/playdates/shopping trips/activities. If she is the one ferrying your child around, you should not see this as "topping up her income".

I think the lens through which you are viewing things is scratched. I halved my hours and my pension contributions when i had children. My income is down by half. If I need more money it is because I have effectively spent 50% of my wage before I've even spent a penny. What else I spend comes out of the remaining half-pay. Unless you are spending the equivalent, then I would consider it that she is topping up your wage, because without her being available, how much would you need to spend on childcare, chefs or taxis for the equivalent "services"?

As I mentioned i do Pay all the bills and the mortgage for where they live.

Her ONLY outgoing i know of is her phone and apple tv. The rest is on my wages. I was happy to pay and remain so. But it's never regular.

I also work remotely and have said I can do school runs and the lot with ease but I'm not permitted.

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WoodyOwl · 01/04/2025 13:52

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 11:34

I dont think she is starving them at all. But I know that she has had bills for her car recently and has just come back from a holiday and suddenly im asked for more.

I dont ever question giving it. I always say yes you can have it but can I see some proof this isnt just topping up your income.

If she is the resident parent, you are not topping up her income. Even if she spends the money on bills or home improvements or her car. The money is keeping your child with a roof over their head, food in their tummy, getting your child to and from school/hobbies/playdates/shopping trips/activities. If she is the one ferrying your child around, you should not see this as "topping up her income".

I think the lens through which you are viewing things is scratched. I halved my hours and my pension contributions when i had children. My income is down by half. If I need more money it is because I have effectively spent 50% of my wage before I've even spent a penny. What else I spend comes out of the remaining half-pay. Unless you are spending the equivalent, then I would consider it that she is topping up your wage, because without her being available, how much would you need to spend on childcare, chefs or taxis for the equivalent "services"?

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:51

SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:48

So, time to renegotiate the situation and agree a fair amount of money to contribute towards the costs of your child, rather than stew and get frustrated that you feel you are being treated unfairly.

Completely. I'm more than willing to sort this. I want it in writing. I don't think she does. But you never know.

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SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:48

So, time to renegotiate the situation and agree a fair amount of money to contribute towards the costs of your child, rather than stew and get frustrated that you feel you are being treated unfairly.

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:47

MattCauthon · 01/04/2025 13:37

see your point but as I mentioned I put in on the table that I would do it all 5050 some time ago and she said no. So I left it be. I offered to pay half of preschool dinners food clothing the lot and was told "I dont need your help" so I left it be.

I don't realyl understand this mindset and I think this is your crucial mistake and another sign of your slightly odd passiveness that then also comes across as passive aggressive. So... you think you should be paying half, she declines. So surely in that situation, you should just send her the money anyway? Or, put the money aside and then use that when she DOES ask for something?

But if you're goign to formalise contact and also financial arrangements, a ot of these issues will go away. Although be warned - I wouldn't agree to my ex having the DC half of Saturday and all day Sunday every week. I'd want to have some weekend time with them myself. I'd be far more likely ot insist that you have them overnight at least once a week or for 2-3 nights EOW so that the time with them is meaningful and doesn't actually just mean that I'm on standby to look after them.

Due to the nature of her work and mine. there is little room to change this and we both know that. I do see my children more than those set days when I take them out etc as she does work odd times and im always without fail on hand to be with them.

Not once has anyone else had to be called in to look after them.

If she where to start asking to change that now it would go against years of one thing we have always had a clear understanding on.

Things money wise have not been simple. In terms of me being there to see them and help raise them monday to thurs its been easy.

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Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:44

SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:40

"I don't mind being asked but Its the timing I object to and her refusal to acknowledge just how much she does see of my income that isn't tangible (Streaming,utilities,council tax etc etc) I don't get any contribution for those and she uses them." - see, this is controlling. You want to control the timing of when she asks, and you want an appropriate amount of acknowledgement or gratitude or whatever.

"She drives an electric car which does add somewhat to the electrical bill and yet I pay for that. I wouldn't ask her to help pay for the petrol I use!!!!" - you're not using your car to transport your son around to the degree that she using the car she is driving.

Valid point. I do see your reasoning for that and its made me think differently on that.

But If someone was getting to live rent free and not paying towards any bills. Who does work. Then to turn and say "oh by the way money I havent asked for in 2 years I now need" comes across a little badly.

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mindutopia · 01/04/2025 13:41

Contact the school and ask for help setting up an account. Dh and I both had to be sent a code for access to Parent Pay (from school, not the other parent). It isn’t like one parent controls it, or certainly wasn’t for us. For GDPR reasons, the school has to make sure the right people have access to each child’s personal information. Dh and I are married and I’d expect my husband to contribute just like I do, so sounds sensible that you also do. It’s a real bugger to set up and maintain though, and it passes along responsibility to you to manage spending on the account, which is also a pain.

SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:40

"I don't mind being asked but Its the timing I object to and her refusal to acknowledge just how much she does see of my income that isn't tangible (Streaming,utilities,council tax etc etc) I don't get any contribution for those and she uses them." - see, this is controlling. You want to control the timing of when she asks, and you want an appropriate amount of acknowledgement or gratitude or whatever.

"She drives an electric car which does add somewhat to the electrical bill and yet I pay for that. I wouldn't ask her to help pay for the petrol I use!!!!" - you're not using your car to transport your son around to the degree that she using the car she is driving.

MattCauthon · 01/04/2025 13:37

see your point but as I mentioned I put in on the table that I would do it all 5050 some time ago and she said no. So I left it be. I offered to pay half of preschool dinners food clothing the lot and was told "I dont need your help" so I left it be.

I don't realyl understand this mindset and I think this is your crucial mistake and another sign of your slightly odd passiveness that then also comes across as passive aggressive. So... you think you should be paying half, she declines. So surely in that situation, you should just send her the money anyway? Or, put the money aside and then use that when she DOES ask for something?

But if you're goign to formalise contact and also financial arrangements, a ot of these issues will go away. Although be warned - I wouldn't agree to my ex having the DC half of Saturday and all day Sunday every week. I'd want to have some weekend time with them myself. I'd be far more likely ot insist that you have them overnight at least once a week or for 2-3 nights EOW so that the time with them is meaningful and doesn't actually just mean that I'm on standby to look after them.

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:33

TartanMammy · 01/04/2025 13:30

Just pay for the stuff your child needs, it's not that hard, you don't need receipts or proof to do the right thing. You just need to know you're providing for your child, as a father should. I'm sure your ex partner is doing way more to contribute to the child's upbringing.

Do you pay regular maintenance? Are these requests extra? Can you come to an agreement on paying half of any school/parent pay expenses?

As I mentioned already I offered to pay for half of everything. It was refused.

I dont want proof I want my own access to parent pay. The bank accts is a minor compared to something I should have had from the start.

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Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:31

SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:26

This is about control not honesty. You simply don't trust her, and your working assumption is that she is fleecing you for cash she doesn't need. Hence only wanting to give her money before she has to pay for things, rather than give her money after she has paid for things. Because you don't believe her that she has paid for them.

You urgently need to arrange a standard amount of money that you pay her, that takes into account all reasonable expenses and pay that monthly on an agreed date. That would be the end of all of this nonsense.

I see your point but as I mentioned I put in on the table that I would do it all 5050 some time ago and she said no. So I left it be. I offered to pay half of preschool dinners food clothing the lot and was told "I dont need your help" so I left it be.

I know that the preschool money isnt needed now so that reduced her outgoings a little but clothing food etc is going to come close with growing children.

I have at no point every tried to control anyone. I have always been the more laid back "Ok you need the money here it is parent" I dont mind being asked but Its the timing I object too and her refusal to acknowledge just how much she does see of my income that isnt tangible (Streaming,utilites,council tax etc etc) I don't get any contribution for those and she uses them.

She drives an electric car which does add somewhat to the electrical bill and yet I pay for that. I wouldnt ask her to help pay for the petrol I use!!!!

I agree a formal agreement is needed and Ill be starting that process.

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theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 01/04/2025 13:31

You can make payments into ParentPay without logging in by using a PayPoint card or barcoded letter provided by your child's school, or by making a payment at a PayPoint shop using cash or card

Contact the school and ask for the bar code. She is a CF, by the sounds of it you pay for enough

TartanMammy · 01/04/2025 13:30

Just pay for the stuff your child needs, it's not that hard, you don't need receipts or proof to do the right thing. You just need to know you're providing for your child, as a father should. I'm sure your ex partner is doing way more to contribute to the child's upbringing.

Do you pay regular maintenance? Are these requests extra? Can you come to an agreement on paying half of any school/parent pay expenses?

SilenceInside · 01/04/2025 13:26

This is about control not honesty. You simply don't trust her, and your working assumption is that she is fleecing you for cash she doesn't need. Hence only wanting to give her money before she has to pay for things, rather than give her money after she has paid for things. Because you don't believe her that she has paid for them.

You urgently need to arrange a standard amount of money that you pay her, that takes into account all reasonable expenses and pay that monthly on an agreed date. That would be the end of all of this nonsense.

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:24

Comedycook · 01/04/2025 13:20

This is just semantics and mental gymnastics.

I'd love to hear her side

Of course and that's the fair thing to say. Ive taken some points from this and Ill go about contacting and ordering as I need too.

In the meantime ive sent the money. Im not a dad who is looking to avoid this. I understand the requirements now. But I dont think she does.

I could go and ask her to pay rent on the house at this time. I was advised to do so. But I refused to put this in place.

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Comedycook · 01/04/2025 13:20

This is just semantics and mental gymnastics.

I'd love to hear her side

Kingof93 · 01/04/2025 13:18

Comedycook · 01/04/2025 13:13

I suspect its all been paid already

So, then if you just give her the money, you're paying her back then? Isn't that ok?

I would like honesty. Thats the crux of all this.

Dont tell me its for the school when its not for the school. If she needs money she can ask ive paid for things for her before and ill do so again.

But the whole into his account and Ill manage it is a little cheeky. If she wants 300 quid this week then she should ask. Ive done it before ill do it again.

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MellowPinkDeer · 01/04/2025 13:18

OldCottageGreenhouse · 01/04/2025 13:15

@MellowPinkDeerHOW the HELL is OP’s ex “walking all over” him by asking him to contribute to the child? She cannot physically add him to parent pay it’s not possible!!

Me and my ex both have access to parent pay - this isn’t a hard one. He would still be paying for his children, in a more formal way. He should be able to see his kids when arranged. She should give him access to their birth certificates. He doesn’t need to pay for her car. She is unreasonable in her demands vs the way she behaves and keeps the children in his time.