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To not go to a friend’s party because she still owes me money?

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SpaceMoo · 01/04/2025 09:44

They are DH’s friends really more than mine, and have borrowed money from us to help out their son buy a house. That was a year ago. She’s now having a massive 50th party and is very keen for us all to go. She’s also been on holiday (flying business class she raved to us - it was a gift apparently.) We’ve asked for the money back three times now and she said it’s so hard to take out loans and her other property didn’t sell, problems with tenants etc.

Anyway, I would prefer to cut her off and get solicitors involved. DH trusts her he said and thinks they’re just putting the house on the market and will give the money back. He sees her more often than me as they work close by. He doesn’t want to end it and thinks I’m being petty, it’s just a matter of time. In the meantime she advised us to remortgage our property (which me and DH argued about and a) I resent the arguing and b) point blank refused.

It’s time to get solicitors involved I feel. (Money amount 40k)

OP posts:
Kissedbyfire1 · 02/04/2025 21:12

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/04/2025 18:20

That's if she even had a day in court or tennants,
innit?

Exactly this. It’s all bollox. There’s no rental property, no tenants, possibly no son living his best life. Certainly no successful financial business and probably not a doctor. I think it’s quite simply that this grifter has conned the stupid DH out of £40k and is spending it on holidays and parties. You don’t know these people well enough to know how much of what they claim is true OP. As I said up thread, you’re not getting a penny of your £40k back. People like this have an inexhaustible supply of fairy tales, excuses and sob stories to keep you stringing along indefinitely.
Cut your losses, dump your stupid DH and go on your way with an expensive lesson learned.

Poppyseeds79 · 02/04/2025 21:10

Draw up the 'loan' contract, take it to the party, corner her and announce you need it signed as you have had some 'bad health news', (don't be drawn into what). If she refuses to sign I'd start making noises about how you wouldn't want to "ruin her party with it all coming out..."

GiroJim100 · 02/04/2025 21:08

lazycats · 01/04/2025 10:29

No advice, but this was the exact plot of a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.

I knew I recognised it from somewhere but couldn’t think what it was!

vickylou78 · 02/04/2025 20:54

She needs to remortgage her house and pay you back!!

Gagaandgag · 02/04/2025 20:43

Were you aware from the beginning or did he hide it from you?

Glasgowgal200 · 02/04/2025 20:31

I presume there was a written and signed agreement about the loan? Otherwise it could get messy

DressOrSkirt · 02/04/2025 20:03

@SpaceMoo what is your husband's age, and what is the age of the son who needed money?

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of your DH being his father.

They've both lied to you about this money so there's no reason to believe they wouldn't lie about when and where they met.

HygerTyger · 02/04/2025 19:57

Middlechild3 · 02/04/2025 19:36

Hmm but she has the cash for holidays and 50th party bashes, time to get solicitor involved.

Exactly! People who are concerned about paying money they owe to friends don't fly business class for holidays or have extravagant bashes. You'd be worried about inconveniencing your friends. You'd worry that the optics were all wrong. This woman doesn't care at all. She doesn't give a crap. Get angry @SpaceMoo

why is your husband STILL worried about upsetting this 'friend' and keen to maintain the friendship? He needs to worry more about losing YOU. He also doesn't seem to give a crap.

JustAnotherManicMomday · 02/04/2025 19:52

@Hoppinggreen well they can kiss that 40k good buy that friend has 0 interest in paying it back. I would be asking for a formal plan to be set up now or telling my husband he needs to cut this person off. If his so laid back about 40k I would be asking why his so chilled and if there is more going on here than she knows.

Middlechild3 · 02/04/2025 19:36

SpaceMoo · 01/04/2025 10:41

He had a conversation yesterday with her about this. She had said end of March! Now it’s April. Her problems are that she can’t get her tenants out to put her house up for sale, and as soon as it’s sold she will give us that money back.

Hmm but she has the cash for holidays and 50th party bashes, time to get solicitor involved.

Middlechild3 · 02/04/2025 19:28

SpaceMoo · 01/04/2025 09:49

DH also thinks if we don’t go, and start withdrawing from friendship it will be harder to get the money back. I’m worried he’s been groomed. She’s older than us, her DH is a Doctor, her son and daughter both have professional jobs, she also is in finance. I feel the whole thing was a con. We weren’t even that close as friends and have never borrowed from them.

I am so furious at DH and never agreed to lending them money in the first place. (Long story)

She's shite at finance if she's borrowing from friends. Get the money back, the longer you leave it the harder it'll be!

Hoppinggreen · 02/04/2025 19:21

JustAnotherManicMomday · 02/04/2025 19:00

I hope you have a contract for the loan. Tell her you are informing it and that if you have to take a loan or remortgage your home due to her you will be charging her the interest. You could point out that a remortgage is an excellent idea for her mind then she can pay you back.

RTFT
Nothing in writing at all

Theyreeatingthedogs · 02/04/2025 19:01

This is the most ridiculous story I've ever heard. If you put it in a novel it would be rejected for being not believable. An absolute idiot and their money are soon parted, indeed.

JustAnotherManicMomday · 02/04/2025 19:00

I hope you have a contract for the loan. Tell her you are informing it and that if you have to take a loan or remortgage your home due to her you will be charging her the interest. You could point out that a remortgage is an excellent idea for her mind then she can pay you back.

BlondeMummyto1 · 02/04/2025 18:43

It sounds to me like she throws phrases from The Apprentice around to make herself sound good. I think it’s all fake bullshit and she’s a con woman.

You aren’t close friends so it doesn’t matter if you fall out. Speak to her yourself and tell her the money needs to be paid in 28 days or you’ll start
legal action.

GiveDogBone · 02/04/2025 18:30

Never, ever lend money to friends unless you are prepared for it to be a gift.

It’s also sensible to apply the same rule to family as well.

Kindling1970 · 02/04/2025 18:24

Ultimately, your husband gave away money, a huge amount, without asking you. He is now gaslighting you by underplaying how you feel about this. I would be divorcing him.

Hoppinggreen · 02/04/2025 18:23

Thing is OP your DH will need to face up to what an idiot he has been and how much contempt these people he is in awe of actually hold him in and holding onto the hope that you are wrong and he is right may be much easier to do.
Admitting the truth will mean he has to face a lot of things

pinkyredrose · 02/04/2025 18:22

Omg her husband and another guy entered the tenants home? Why?! I'd have been terrified!

She's definitely spinning your husband line after line, why is he so blind to this? It's like he admires them and wants to sacrifice himself on thier alter.

They should remortgage thier house and pay you back ASAP .

Cheeky robbing bastards.

Snapncrackle · 02/04/2025 18:21

If your husband is that close
Let him go to the party

swipe her phone send himself a text saying really sorry about the delay in paying you back the 40k as promised
will pay as soon as possible

cheeky fucker

( don’t forget to delete the text from her to him)

in fact he could probably do this a few times over the next month 😂

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/04/2025 18:20

That's if she even had a day in court or tennants,
innit?

Hoppinggreen · 02/04/2025 18:19

SheridansPortSalut · 02/04/2025 15:27

I'm beginning to think that you should go to her birthday party so that you can chat to other people and get a feel for who she is and what she's like.

These people divide to conquer

Springhassprungthesunisout · 02/04/2025 17:53

The bottom line is he seems to be siding with her rather than with you. You're meant to be a team. Show loyalty. Be on the same side!

No wonder her day in court went badly. She's not much of a financial person if she's not even sorted out legal paperwork/deposit etc with her tenants.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/04/2025 17:48

Your DH is so inexplicably gullible. His behaviour is hard to believe.

Just a thought, but I believe civil court cases are public record in the UK.. You can look it up in Case Tracker in the UK. You know her name and roughly the date/location... you should be able to find out what actually happened in court.

I think I'd have to look this up. It would be "strange" if you can't find any record at all wouldn't it?🤔

Do you know the address of this property.. is there anyway you could find out if she's the owner - land registry etc. local estate agents? Letting Agents.

From your update, your DH, Confessing Sam, has told this woman that he at one point had £40k waiting in an account for future building work. She siezed on the opportunity to relieve him of that burden, and he let her.

While he's so worried about her feelings and her stress, he's doing absolutely NOTHING but doubling yours.

I think it's up to you now. Tell him you are now dealing with the matter.
Get legal advice on what to do next and follow it.
Don't listen to anymore balderdash from either of them, listen to your solicitor.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 02/04/2025 17:29

SpaceMoo · 02/04/2025 12:23

Yes, the council or citizens advice are advising the tenants,

plus Friend’s DH and some other guy entered the house while the tenant and her child were upstairs and there’s been police involved.

If I saw a man in my house I swear I’d have a heart attack or stab him probably so I can imagine this is bad. DH loves this kind of gossip drama except we are now also invested in this (!?)
And I’m on the tenant’s side!
I’ve told him to keep her and her drama away from us.

They sound like a pretty despicable pair of humans (the 'friend' and her husband), so I'd suggest you try to get your money back ASAP and cut all ties. Why does your husband even like them?