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Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine arrested - The vindictiveness of the school and police overreach

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Everanewbie · 01/04/2025 08:45

AIBU to worry that this type of incident seems to be happening more and more? To me, there are several concerning aspects to this story. Here is a link if you aren't yet aware.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/29/parents-arrested-by-hertfordshire-police-for-complaining-about-daughters-school

Firstly, the apparent opaqueness of a public organisation and attempts to shut down private conversation and the vindictiveness the school has shown in attempting to silence this couple.

Secondly, the treatment of the pupil whereby she is being dropped off an escorted into school, and inability to discuss he disability and SEN with teachers, leading to multiple emails that were ultimately used against the couple.

And thirdly, WTF are the police doing? 6 Officers to arrest a meek professional couple, in front of their daughter. Holding them in a cell for 11 hours? Why are the police not dismissing this out of hand? I have always tried to be a supporter of the police, but how can reasonable people continue to accept this when they wont attend a burglary or detain shoplifters, but turn up in force for a middle class couple who called a governor a control freak in a private conversation?

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Everanewbie · 17/11/2025 14:10

noblegiraffe · 17/11/2025 13:52

What for? The school didn't arrest them and don't have control over who the police arrest?

Yeah as angry as I am with the school, the police should have told them to shut up and go away.

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noblegiraffe · 17/11/2025 13:52

SinnerBoy · 17/11/2025 10:58

The Police have paid out to make it go away, rather than have a proper investigation. They really ought to sue the school, too.

What for? The school didn't arrest them and don't have control over who the police arrest?

SinnerBoy · 17/11/2025 10:58

The Police have paid out to make it go away, rather than have a proper investigation. They really ought to sue the school, too.

Everanewbie · 17/11/2025 09:54

Old thread now, but quite a big update. The police have paid compensation of £20,000.

The Police and Crime Commissioner for Hertfordshire Jonathan Ash-Edwards said: "There has clearly been a fundamental breakdown in relationships between a school and parents that shouldn't have become a police matter."

So even the Police think they were unreasonable.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz1qy30v5o

Maxie Allen and his partner Rosalind Levine

Hertfordshire Police admit WhatApp arrest error with £20k payout

A couple unlawfully arrested over complaints about their child's school say police have paid them damages.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz1qy30v5o

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whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 22:35

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 22:31

Because your attempts at discussion on this subject are circular, frustrating and nonsensical

Because you like to deflect and cannot handle anyone questioning something!

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 22:31

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 22:26

Because you know there has to be a reason why they haven't and you are not prepared for people to query why?

Because your attempts at discussion on this subject are circular, frustrating and nonsensical

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 22:26

Because you know there has to be a reason why they haven't and you are not prepared for people to query why?

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 22:17

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 22:02

So asking for why the parents haven't gone to the police for being falsely accused is drivel?

Yes

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 22:02

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:52

I can't decide if that poster is serious or not, but every time someone engages it starts the cycle of drivel again. It's not even related to the OP anymore.

So asking for why the parents haven't gone to the police for being falsely accused is drivel?

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:52

I can't decide if that poster is serious or not, but every time someone engages it starts the cycle of drivel again. It's not even related to the OP anymore.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:49

Lolapusht · 12/04/2025 21:46

And then what would happen?

They could produce the evidence they have and get them arrested. Simple.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:48

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:44

Yes...

  1. you said the parents should go to the police.
  2. I said not everyone wants to go to police for little things (e.g. non crimes such as "defamation")
  3. You then said but they went to the media for little things.
  4. Another poster, correctly, pointed out going to the media for being arrested by 6 police officers is not little things.
  1. Yes I said they should and detailed what they could report.
  2. You said not everyone wants to go for little things.
  3. I related mine to your words.
  4. I related my words to that being not a little thing.
  5. All my words related to the parents opinon of the teachers committing a crime. All your words and your mates relate to what the teachers did as being a little thing as that is what I was on about!

So is being falsely accused and arrested a little thing? So why did you say that the parents not going to the police for little things then? False accusation is a crime.

Lolapusht · 12/04/2025 21:46

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:45

Report them to the police for what crime they believe to have committed.

And then what would happen?

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:45

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:44

Yes...

  1. you said the parents should go to the police.
  2. I said not everyone wants to go to police for little things (e.g. non crimes such as "defamation")
  3. You then said but they went to the media for little things.
  4. Another poster, correctly, pointed out going to the media for being arrested by 6 police officers is not little things.

Omg, this had been edited before I'd even finished my reply!!!

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:45

Lolapusht · 12/04/2025 21:41

How would the parents get the teachers arrested, exactly?

Report them to the police for what crime they believe to have committed.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:44

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:36

You did, I suggested going to the police for what the school did and you said not everyone wants to go over little things.

False allegations are not little things. They are a crime. So why not report them? Given this family have said this has caused them so much upset then surely they should be doing to get justice.

One has to ask why they are not?

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Yes...

  1. you said the parents should go to the police.
  2. I said not everyone wants to go to police for little things (e.g. non crimes such as "defamation")
  3. You then said but they went to the media for little things.
  4. Another poster, correctly, pointed out going to the media for being arrested by 6 police officers is not little things.
Lolapusht · 12/04/2025 21:41

How would the parents get the teachers arrested, exactly?

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 21:40

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:36

You did, I suggested going to the police for what the school did and you said not everyone wants to go over little things.

False allegations are not little things. They are a crime. So why not report them? Given this family have said this has caused them so much upset then surely they should be doing to get justice.

One has to ask why they are not?

Edited

Ok, I'm out. This is like trying to nail slime to a wall.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:36

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:35

I literally didn't. I suggested calling the police over "defamation", "false allegations" (your words) or "malicious communications" which are not, in fact, malicious like the school did would be little things.

Seriously, how can you have got that so wrong?

You did, I suggested going to the police for what the school did and you said not everyone wants to go over little things.

False allegations are not little things. They are a crime. So why not report them? Given this family have said this has caused them so much upset then surely they should be doing to get justice.

One has to ask why they are not?

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:35

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:32

So why did your mate call it a little thing then?!

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I literally didn't. I suggested calling the police over "defamation", "false allegations" (your words) or "malicious communications" which are not, in fact, malicious like the school did would be little things.

Seriously, how can you have got that so wrong?

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:32

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 21:26

Being arrested by six officers is hardly a "little thing".

So why did your mate call it a little thing then?!

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 21:26

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:22

But yet contacting the media over every little thing is ok for this family though?

Being arrested by six officers is hardly a "little thing".

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:22

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:08

That and the fact that not everyone wants to contact the police over every little thing.

But yet contacting the media over every little thing is ok for this family though?

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:21

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 20:43

Making a false allegation is not - necessarily - a criminal offence, and is usually not something for which a person may lawfully be arrested.

Defamation is not a crime, in this country, any more.

Perverting the course of justice is a crime which many are arrested and convicted of and also serve jail time for. Surely these parents would love another double page Daily Fail spread getting the teachers arrested?

Now one would wonder why this family have not reported it? I mean they are doing anything they can do so why not this? Hmmm?

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 12/04/2025 21:08

ThePiglet · 12/04/2025 20:43

Making a false allegation is not - necessarily - a criminal offence, and is usually not something for which a person may lawfully be arrested.

Defamation is not a crime, in this country, any more.

That and the fact that not everyone wants to contact the police over every little thing.

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