Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine arrested - The vindictiveness of the school and police overreach

Not in the least surprised that a school was vindictive towards the parents of a disabled student. Happens all the time. No doubt they are delighted to have lost an expensive and ‘difficult’ child. Calling the police was vicious, but what makes this story particularly horrifying is the way the police were keen to act as a private militia, not just arresting this couple (who had committed no crime) in front of a terrified three year old, but threatening a local councillor and a MP (!) that if they tried to do the job they were democratically elected to do, they could also end up in a cell. Shocking overrreach. I hope the school staff who instigated this are experiencing the consequences of their behaviour, but more importantly the police need to be reined in.

There are clearly 4 sides to this story and at the moment we only know one of them.

Lots of assumptions are being made and prejudices being displayed- when did we all become so shit at being fair and even-minded?

You’re absolutely right, middle aged people have never in the history of the world been known to be violent while being arrested and never react badly to it. Police officers make such a fuss about violence being meted out to them most days, officer safety shouldn’t even be a thing.

Having children at the property also wouldn’t complicate things if they were to become upset or need to be kept safe from intervening and potentially hurting someone or being hurt themselves.

They were psychic and knew that 80 year old Gran would be the person the couple asked to babysit before arriving so they didn’t need to plan for officers to look after the children in case a relative wasn’t available. There is no possibility that an elderly relative could be frail or ill or unable to look after the children for the length of time required when the circs were given. There is no way a 80 year old could get upset and have a medical episode herself and end up needing help. Maybe a different relative might have been asked who may not have been so frail and might have caused trouble.

There are no risks at all in this situation, there will have been no risk assessing or intelligence done beforehand and absolutely no unknowns to plan for in this situation, the police are just silly and I’m wrong. As per the outcome of the complaint. No, wait.

Ronsealit · Today 10:35

The couple complained to the police and their complaint was not upheld.

Well, I for one am absolutely amazed that the Police force which made the arrest has investigated itself and found itself not guilty. No conflict of interest there, eh?

QuirkInTheMatrix · Today 09:35

You may be of the opinion that they crossed the legal line, but it's an illogical conclusion. The Police didn't charge them, because they have committed no crime.

You claimed that the reason they sent SIX police officers to arrest a couple for having a discussion when they hadn’t determined that they had done anything illegal was because there were children in the house. As I explained that’s not true- they had to call an elderly woman to look after the children. You’re just spouting nonsense.

Six police officers for a middle aged couple, an 89 year old and a four year old child? When the only accusation was of hurry words? You’re off your rocker if you think that’s appropriate

Ah so even more people arriving at the address to be dealt with by those two officers you wanted to send on their own then.

If you’re suspected of a crime, you can be arrested if necessary, even if you’re middle class parents and this is not unlawful. They were questioned and it was decided there was not enough evidence to charge, that’s the end of it. Still not unlawful, happens every day.

Lol by the police, marking their own homework!

Sadly not. There’s still a huge amount of corruption in the public sector. One of my close friends was delighted to be given a six figure managerial job in the NHS by her friend. It was several grades above her current role and it seems they actually created the role for her. It involves attending meetings about meetings largely

Well it’s been found to not be misconduct 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s a friends experience

And why on earth did they need to search their home or arrest them anyway? Utter misconduct

Personally I thought this type of thing was stamped out in the 80s where you couldn’t get a job working for local government especially as the jobs either weren’t advertised or they went through the process of applications only to award the job to soneone’s son, daughter, aunt etc who usually had to learn the job from scratch

That’s completely incorrect. As Maxie explained they had to wait for his 80 year old mother to come and look after the children in the house as they wanted to arrest both parents. Further they hadn’t even analyzed the messages beforehand to determine if any were criminal. Despite that they locked the couple up in different cells for hours.

Can’t comment on this part as it’s not in the news report.

You're assuming the school is right on its judgement. But that's not necessarily true. It reads to me like the school can't cope with any criticism.

As opposed to armed gang in a home invasion whilst owner was at home. 999 dialled

Police officers required 2 to deliver a crime number 45 minutes after the event

Because it’s an open and transparent process. We should not be awarding jobs to pals in the public sector.

that said, it’s not really the point anyway. People shouldn’t be arrested and locked up for expressing opinions about public services.

The fact remains is malicious stalking a real crime - not in this case whether it was committed.

The fact remains that this wasn’t even considered malicious communication

Malicious speech has consequences and is not something that has ever been part of free speech or needs to be altered.

The act hasn't been used as although arrested you'd not be charged if a crime hasn't been committed

What were the remarks/speech used? although this is widely reported I haven't seen the remarks/speech

and as they are not malicious could they be shared?

They could do both if they felt they had a case. If I had been wrongfully arrested I’d be doing that as I’d feel it would help vindicate me.

It’s been explained everywhere that six officers were needed. Two suspects to arrest who may or may not have struggled, two children in the house plus a search to do. Two officers might have had their hands full, do you not think? The couple complained to the police and their complaint was not upheld.

Well if there is a missing bit of information then the school needed to produce it or the police would have found it

Even after going through all the computers and presumably phones from this couple and the school can’t find it or produce it suggests that there isnt some missing piece of evidence