Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine arrested - The vindictiveness of the school and police overreach

If you look at your messages - both describe scenarios that you claim to have encountered before and that you think happened based on your experience. Yet the evidence shows that in fact that was not what happened in this case.

Prejudice means you have pre judged based on your experience or beliefs about a particular group. That’s exactly what you have done here.

Maybe look at the actual facts not other different situations you may have encountered

The facts are that the couple made a complaint and it was not upheld. I have tried to explain to you why this might be despite being told I’m “off my rocker” and all manner of insults. I don’t have to argue my point, it was tested and vindicated with the dismissal of the complaint. You’re the one still insisting people are wrong with no knowledge of how things actually work so please continue.

Many schools have ‘parent behaviour policies’ or ‘home school policies’ which tell the parents not to be negative about the school on social media. Which would include WhatsApp. Check the ones you know - it is (to me surprisingly) common.

This cannot be lawful or legally enforceable.

The cheek of it.

😂 prejudices? Against white middle class couples?!

It’s not rubbish at all, I’m trying to explain to you how decisions are made and justified. You can scream and shout and call for blood all you like, the complaint was not upheld because the alternative was arriving with too few officers and putting people at risk and that’s why the bosses have backed them.

That’s not what actually happened though. It’s just what you both decided happened based on your prejudices/ previous experiences.

See my above post for some ideas of things to be considered. I’m obviously not party to any intel or history re the couple or the address as the police would have been so can only make suggestions but even if nothing is known about them at all then unknown risks would still need addressing. Sometimes those situations can be even more unpredictable. The alternative would be two officers turning up, something going wrong and someone getting hurt in which case a complaint would be justified.

The police didn’t seem to be aware that the four year old was at the property as there was a significant delay so that the 80 year old grandma could come and babysit while they took the parents to the police station because they’d had a discussion in private about misconduct at a school. The idea that six police officers are needed because of a four year old child they claimed not to know was there and an 80 year old who wasn’t there is total nonsense!

There was no reason to arrest them, never mind send six police officers. It was a non violent allegation which if the police had looked into before they acted, they would never have taken any further. The police usually don’t bother to turn up at all to investigate burglaries or robberies.

No idea why you keep on with this rubbish. I don’t think anyone really believes you need six police officers in case a four year old kicks off!

Completely agree with you. I have seen this too with schools. I have seen the kind of harassment parents lead and then cry they didn't do it when collared. Parents do not get bans without it being necessary. The whatsapp groups of schools are vile. The parents are the ones bullying usually through the groups and then cry 'free speech' all the while falsely accusing, name calling, threatening and harassing staff. I have seen it all on those groups.

You’re absolutely right, middle aged people have never in the history of the world been known to be violent while being arrested and never react badly to it. Police officers make such a fuss about violence being meted out to them most days, officer safety shouldn’t even be a thing.

Having children at the property also wouldn’t complicate things if they were to become upset or need to be kept safe from intervening and potentially hurting someone or being hurt themselves.

They were psychic and knew that 80 year old Gran would be the person the couple asked to babysit before arriving so they didn’t need to plan for officers to look after the children in case a relative wasn’t available. There is no possibility that an elderly relative could be frail or ill or unable to look after the children for the length of time required when the circs were given. There is no way a 80 year old could get upset and have a medical episode herself and end up needing help. Maybe a different relative might have been asked who may not have been so frail and might have caused trouble.

There are no risks at all in this situation, there will have been no risk assessing or intelligence done beforehand and absolutely no unknowns to plan for in this situation, the police are just silly and I’m wrong. As per the outcome of the complaint. No, wait.

Can you think of a reason why six officers would be needed to arrest two people who are not known to have been armed or violent then? Why not two officers?

I mean I don’t know but I’d imagine the police aren’t too quiet and might have a few other jobs on the go plus they’re not exactly flush with staff so if six are sent, it’s because six might be needed. They weren’t, great news, everyone is safe. Which is the whole point and the reason that complaint would have gone straight in the bin. Not everyone can have knowledge of every subject but maybe we should try thinking a little bit deeper sometimes.

Its not illegal to criticise a school or teachers. Much as some school staff would dearly like it to be.

SIX police officers turning up at the home of a couple who haven’t done anything violent?! Madness. What a complete waste of resources.

Totally incorrect, and that’s why we’ve become so shit at being fair-minded.

There is only ever 1 side the story - the truth.

There are clearly 4 sides to this story and at the moment we only know one of them.

Lots of assumptions are being made and prejudices being displayed- when did we all become so shit at being fair and even-minded?

Let me tell you how it comes across to me. (I'm a clerk in a school, governor in another. Parent of children with SEN.)

The guy stops being a Governor (not sure why) but then gets FOMO when the old head leaves. Bombards school wanting to know what's happening with recruitment. School politely refuse to tell a parent the ins and outs.

The guy demands whole group parent meetings. Won't let it go that he has to be involved or kept up to date.
Is so abusive to staff etc they end up banning them from playground. Now schools put up with a lot. More than most people realise. It takes somme pretty abusive and heavy handedness to get to that state

Then he gets bloody awkward. Email after email - probably a parent demanding instant answers from someone teaching his child and you know kinda busy. Then emailing again.
It honestly looks like he kept demanding to come in and talk about medication. Trying to get the round the ban. The school reasonably asks what he wants to talk about and he goes off on one - peeved because he's not getting his own way. So instead of writing it down - putting his kids first - he refuses and keeps demanding to come in.
Seen some of the WhatsApp messages. Described as banter by the couple. Well it's not. It's vile poisonous derogatory and vicious. Slagging off the school on WhatsApp is just not on.
Overall the couple come across as spoilt and too used to getting their own way. They're using their media connections to bully a school and governors who can't talk back.
There was obviously something said that prompted the school to show it to the police
So yeah. Spoilt, vindictive and quite nasty is how the parents come across.