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To think DH shouldn't have dropped off MIL

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gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 05:45

Just wondering if I'm being unfair as I don't want to be.

DH and I hosted a dinner over the weekend. We have a 2 year and I'm a SAHM. MIL and SIL were invited. It was all a bit last minute (for me at least) and was organised on Wednesday earlier in the week. I spent the next couple of days shopping and buying gifts (Mother's Day, Eid etc) and cooking. It wasn't easy at DD is extra clingy at the moment and seems to only want to be around me. The night before the dinner ended up being an all nighter for both DH and I (me: cooking, DH: decorating and cleaning)

MIL and SIL live an hour away from us by car (and about the same by train). Neither drive and neither did DH until a couple of years ago. At the end of the dinner he asked me if it would be OK to drop them off home. It was 10.30pm - DD had still not had dinner, she was still awake, I was shattered and I really could have done with DH staying home to help clear up the post party chaos too.

When MIL usually comes DH will pick her up from her house and bring her over. I always do find it a bit stressful as it means leaving DD with me (she is 2) and I need to keep the house in a tidy state and get food sorted impending arrival of MIL. He will also drop her off. I am usually exhausted as I'm the one who is sorting out the food and for me when the guests leave, I could really do with DH being home.

MIL is 67, fit and healthy physically. I suspect some MH but not sure as DH says nothing is wrong. She won't take public transport alone, generally won't leave home unless someone is with her. English isn't her first language but then she did raise her children with only English and I personally would describe her as fluent. I have noticed though that she cannot follow conversation if the sentence structure is a bit complex. She also has no idea of where things are geographically - I don't mean just London, I mean countries. However, given then family have only ever used public transport and taxis, I would have thought it OK for MIL to go home in a taxi at least. DH says she doesn't like the smells or how restricted she is in one eg. can't have a conversation without feeling like the driver is listening.

AIBU to have wanted DH to just get MIL a taxi home on this particular occasion as I was just flat out exhausted from the dinner and the prep the days before. He also hadn't made sure DD had had dinner whilst I spent most of the evening in the kitchen, which meant I had do sort it out too. He was only gone for 2 hours but it was a busy 2 hours where lots needed doing and I would have appreciated the extra pair of hands.

Also, so as not to drip feed. I ALWAYS host my ILs. They never organise anything at their own place for special occasions and it's getting increasingly more tiring with DD. I feel like if she was older she could be more independent etc but right now she does need me and I find it tough to manage it all. I generally don't have dinner parties unless it's ILs coming.

If it wasn't a special occasion, I would have ordered in. But it being Eid, we had to have a specific kind of food which needed to be home made. And I had told DH prior to the event that I would rather we didn't host it as it would all fall on me to cook. DH is an atrocious cook. He wouldn't have a clue where to begin with something like this. He will usually clean the house and do the dishes etc before and after events.

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CarrieOnComplaining · 01/04/2025 09:13

I am 67 and would be horrified at the idea of my Dc driving a 2 hour return journey to save me an hour’s train trip.

I travel by train in the evening/ late night all the time.

Unless there is a very specific disability or illness that precludes travel I have little patience with this acquired fragility and helplessness of all sorts of people

But what you do about it OP, I am not sure. Because the expectation is doubtless built on a lifetime of conditioning, cultural norms etc.

Just be on your guard in future and pitch your own efforts accordingly (I.e don’t go all out and exhaust yourself with hosting)

HornungTheHelpful · 01/04/2025 09:12

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RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 09:11

RosyDawn · 01/04/2025 09:04

Boggling at the idea that a 67 year old can’t take a train home at 10.30pm. My 88 year old father did it on his own at 11pm after an event recently. The MiL here wasn’t even alone!

It's not whether she can. It's whether it's kind and soft and loving. Filial duty and gentleness.

Apart from safety considerations if they're in ethnic dress or otherwise visible minorities. As there is so much hatred being stirred up in the media against difference.

TheHerboriste · 01/04/2025 09:10

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2025 08:29

It doesn't matter who they are if the level of work is unreasonable for one person to take on solo.

You might think it is bad manners to expect an able bodied 40 year old woman to bring some samosas to a party.

I think it is exceptionally bad manners to come to a last minute family celebration and watch the woman who has done all the cooking run around after you all evening and not get a moment to sit down and eat herself, without lifting a finger to help.

Yeah, this.

If they can’t host, why can’t they come early and do some of the cooking?

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rainbowstardrops · 01/04/2025 09:07

Your husband is the main problem here, along with his family. Had you bought and prepared enough food for the last minute no-shows as well? Unless they were ill, they’re all incredibly rude.
I would be telling your DH in no uncertain terms, that you won’t be doing anything on that scale alone again and if he wants to host then he makes it clear that everyone needs to pitch in.
Having said that, you agreed to go along with it (even though you didn’t want to), so you’ve got to take some responsibility for that too.
I can’t believe the three of them sat there eating all the food that you’d prepared and yet not one of them told you to come and sit down for a minute. They all sound utterly awful.

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RosyDawn · 01/04/2025 09:04

Boggling at the idea that a 67 year old can’t take a train home at 10.30pm. My 88 year old father did it on his own at 11pm after an event recently. The MiL here wasn’t even alone!

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 09:03

Redpeach · 01/04/2025 08:59

Non drivers shouldn't expect someone to do 2 hours driving late at night to get them home

Yet elsewhere on this site, and quite rightly, posters advise that drunk offspring should be picked up in the wee small hours from clubs, and that we should have a care for women's safety at night on the streets. Getting one's own mother home is just the same.

BrokenLine · 01/04/2025 09:02

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:59

Yeah, this, it's the collision of a nuclear family setup with a way of life that needs extended family input.

I think that’s fair. I’ve been to many Eid and Diwali meals for twenty people or more, but one person wasn’t cooking everything, guests were bringing large amounts of the food, and everyone was pulling pre-prepared stuff out of the freezer. I make samosas myself. They freeze really well.

gamerchick · 01/04/2025 09:01

YABU not to put your foot down about hosting.

Tell him to piss off the next time he mentions it. Why are you spending all night cleaning and decorating for a dinner party. What you're describing sounds like unnecessary stress. Just stop.

Redpeach · 01/04/2025 08:59

Non drivers shouldn't expect someone to do 2 hours driving late at night to get them home

thestudio · 01/04/2025 08:59

We’re all atrocious cooks until we bother to learn not to be - tell your DH that he has to do that, ignorance is no excuse.

Otherwise it will always all fall to you - and to your daughter, and your daughter’s daughter.

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:59

Tdcp · 01/04/2025 08:57

I think a lot of posters are missing the differences in cultures here however, It's insanity to me that you were left to do all the cooking yourself. I'm not asian but I do have Asian friends and holiday meals such as Eid are usually all the women pitching in together? The meals are long and complicated so I'm not surprised you were stressed, added with the extra hassle of your home needing to be almost hotel standard to please MIL and not be judged, I just don't know what to say. DH or MIL should have fed dd as you were stuck in the kitchen. The lift is understandable but again not really when you're being left to do everything by yourself. I feel for you op.

Yeah, this, it's the collision of a nuclear family setup with a way of life that needs extended family input.

Oneflightdown · 01/04/2025 08:58

Before marriage, it really was a big family effort and we'd all contribute a bit for it all to come together.

Yes, this is the norm I think.

I have previously tried to keep it low key but nobody ate, there have been tears (SIL), lots of fussy eaters about food not being right etc

Your IL's expectations (that you do everything alone) are not the norm. They cannot have it both ways. If they want the whole nine yards, they need to pitch in.

Tdcp · 01/04/2025 08:57

I think a lot of posters are missing the differences in cultures here however, It's insanity to me that you were left to do all the cooking yourself. I'm not asian but I do have Asian friends and holiday meals such as Eid are usually all the women pitching in together? The meals are long and complicated so I'm not surprised you were stressed, added with the extra hassle of your home needing to be almost hotel standard to please MIL and not be judged, I just don't know what to say. DH or MIL should have fed dd as you were stuck in the kitchen. The lift is understandable but again not really when you're being left to do everything by yourself. I feel for you op.

5128gap · 01/04/2025 08:56

The whole situation, last minute hosting, needing to spend all night cooking and decorating to host family would seem U to many people. But clearly the dynamic in your family is to make this huge effort, so in the context of that, I'm not sure the lift home is the hill to die on. Personally I think you are going to a great deal more work for your Hs family than most would be happy with. If this is something that's a day to day feature of your life, then it might be time to think about asserting yourself with your H to bring about some gradual changes. He could learn to cook for starters!

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:56

HornungTheHelpful · 01/04/2025 08:55

Crikey - you really are awfully prejudiced, aren't you?

No, I have been repeatedly shocked in people's homes.

HornungTheHelpful · 01/04/2025 08:55

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:47

Same ones whose houses I'll avoid because they always have worms and lice. And store bought food. And their back turned to guests and calling out over their shoulder.

Crikey - you really are awfully prejudiced, aren't you?

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:55

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 08:53

What are you talking about? Who has worms and lice?

But it's ok to say 'crazy'...?
Worms and lice in my experience are much more common in families with school age children and no religious washing rules.

TheAmusedQuail · 01/04/2025 08:54

Whatsnmynameagain9 · 01/04/2025 08:52

Can’t imagine a two year old cares about iftar. Dinner and bed at usual time. Adults, enjoy yourselves!

Family. Includes the children. It's a religious celebration which is passed down through the generations. It doesn't translate to a non-Christian Christmas meal. Or to an individualistic culture which most of us share in the UK.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 08:53

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:47

Same ones whose houses I'll avoid because they always have worms and lice. And store bought food. And their back turned to guests and calling out over their shoulder.

What are you talking about? Who has worms and lice?

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:53

Daisyvodka · 01/04/2025 08:51

Agree with this comment, I don't think it's cultural ignorance of anyone to point out that it's a bit highly bloody convenient that so many cultures seem to end up with women running around doing everything for the family and extended family - just because some cultures have managed to spin it as a position of honour, when you lay it out its still women cooking and cleaning and organising and doing the childcare while men have much more free and relaxation time. It's not misunderstanding anything to say so.

In fact at a lot of ultra orthodox Hindu events men have been the cooks not because of equality but because of ritual purity reasons.

Whatsnmynameagain9 · 01/04/2025 08:52

TheAmusedQuail · 01/04/2025 08:50

Because when the family eat iftar it is a celebration after the sun has gone down. And the final iftar is a long drawn out meal, that is eaten in specific stages. So not a 'chuck it down your neck' meal.

Can’t imagine a two year old cares about iftar. Dinner and bed at usual time. Adults, enjoy yourselves!

Daisyvodka · 01/04/2025 08:51

Fancycheese · 01/04/2025 08:41

Wow. Lucky her. Rewarded for that by skivvying all day and not even eating anything herself.

Agree with this comment, I don't think it's cultural ignorance of anyone to point out that it's a bit highly bloody convenient that so many cultures seem to end up with women running around doing everything for the family and extended family - just because some cultures have managed to spin it as a position of honour, when you lay it out its still women cooking and cleaning and organising and doing the childcare while men have much more free and relaxation time. It's not misunderstanding anything to say so.

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