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To think DH shouldn't have dropped off MIL

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gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 05:45

Just wondering if I'm being unfair as I don't want to be.

DH and I hosted a dinner over the weekend. We have a 2 year and I'm a SAHM. MIL and SIL were invited. It was all a bit last minute (for me at least) and was organised on Wednesday earlier in the week. I spent the next couple of days shopping and buying gifts (Mother's Day, Eid etc) and cooking. It wasn't easy at DD is extra clingy at the moment and seems to only want to be around me. The night before the dinner ended up being an all nighter for both DH and I (me: cooking, DH: decorating and cleaning)

MIL and SIL live an hour away from us by car (and about the same by train). Neither drive and neither did DH until a couple of years ago. At the end of the dinner he asked me if it would be OK to drop them off home. It was 10.30pm - DD had still not had dinner, she was still awake, I was shattered and I really could have done with DH staying home to help clear up the post party chaos too.

When MIL usually comes DH will pick her up from her house and bring her over. I always do find it a bit stressful as it means leaving DD with me (she is 2) and I need to keep the house in a tidy state and get food sorted impending arrival of MIL. He will also drop her off. I am usually exhausted as I'm the one who is sorting out the food and for me when the guests leave, I could really do with DH being home.

MIL is 67, fit and healthy physically. I suspect some MH but not sure as DH says nothing is wrong. She won't take public transport alone, generally won't leave home unless someone is with her. English isn't her first language but then she did raise her children with only English and I personally would describe her as fluent. I have noticed though that she cannot follow conversation if the sentence structure is a bit complex. She also has no idea of where things are geographically - I don't mean just London, I mean countries. However, given then family have only ever used public transport and taxis, I would have thought it OK for MIL to go home in a taxi at least. DH says she doesn't like the smells or how restricted she is in one eg. can't have a conversation without feeling like the driver is listening.

AIBU to have wanted DH to just get MIL a taxi home on this particular occasion as I was just flat out exhausted from the dinner and the prep the days before. He also hadn't made sure DD had had dinner whilst I spent most of the evening in the kitchen, which meant I had do sort it out too. He was only gone for 2 hours but it was a busy 2 hours where lots needed doing and I would have appreciated the extra pair of hands.

Also, so as not to drip feed. I ALWAYS host my ILs. They never organise anything at their own place for special occasions and it's getting increasingly more tiring with DD. I feel like if she was older she could be more independent etc but right now she does need me and I find it tough to manage it all. I generally don't have dinner parties unless it's ILs coming.

If it wasn't a special occasion, I would have ordered in. But it being Eid, we had to have a specific kind of food which needed to be home made. And I had told DH prior to the event that I would rather we didn't host it as it would all fall on me to cook. DH is an atrocious cook. He wouldn't have a clue where to begin with something like this. He will usually clean the house and do the dishes etc before and after events.

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RatandToad · 01/04/2025 22:10

Botanybaby · 01/04/2025 21:47

Why had you not fed your kid when you were celebrating?? Seems bizarre and lazy

I think you meant to say why didn't your husband feed his kid while he was celebrating. Seems bizarre and lazy.

Other female family members were also available if it has to be a woman's fault.

G1fted0rN0t · 01/04/2025 22:00

YANBU OP. Sounds like there has been a lot of pressure (some of it fearing emotional reactions from SIL) on you to do a lot here. I don’t think you were being unreasonable to want SIL and DIL to return in a taxi together so DH could look after DD and you could get a rest. You’ve had some great advice here about putting boundaries in place, talking to DH etc.

Not sure it’s been mentioned, but your DH seems very keen to cater to his mum/the family but with a negative impact on you-inviting then over last minute with the expectation of cooking. Are there other areas where DH has or might do similar? If so, I’d have some frank conversations with DH about this too.

For example, my family was quite traditional and the expectation was that my grandparents would move in with us and be cared for by my mum. I’d want to know, as DH seems very close with his mum, if that would be his expectation too. Obviously that’s fine is everyone is on board. For our family it was a disaster and there was huge resentment.

Codlingmoths · 01/04/2025 21:59

CosyLemur · 01/04/2025 21:23

Why did you go to your family for lunch? Why not just all celebrate together?

So she should have canceled on her parents Eid plans and said you come to ours instead and hosted presumably at least 10 instead of 6… why the fuck is that an answer? Her family actually celebrate Eid! His only do because they’ve seen the op do it and thought it looks like fun and let’s do that and make the op do all the work and we will get really mad if it’s not all homemade and exactly right. That sil would be banned from my house.

Botanybaby · 01/04/2025 21:47

Why had you not fed your kid when you were celebrating?? Seems bizarre and lazy

CosyLemur · 01/04/2025 21:23

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:05

Timeline of events
Family invited on Wednesday night: MIL, SIL, SIL's husband, two of MIL's sisters
Thursday: I shop for stuff from 3 different grocery places (none nearby to each other) with toddler
Friday: start cooking some things in evening when DH is finished with work and can watch DD
Saturday: DH watches DD all day, I cook. When DD is asleep, DH cleans and decorates. It was a 3 hour job at most. He is was just slow with it. I cooked until about 4am.
Sunday: saw my family for lunch. MIL's sisters and SIL's husband cancelled. They also arrived a bit late. DD had a late nap from 5-7pm (unusual for her but she was having a nice time at my parents with other kids and slept in the car ride home.

Why did you go to your family for lunch? Why not just all celebrate together?

TicTac80 · 01/04/2025 21:10

I hope that today has been more restful for you OP, you must be shattered! For your DH to have announced with just 3 days to spare that you'd be hosting was really thoughtless (understatement!) of him. I'm shocked at him and your ILs. I know we do our preparations for Easter (this is a bigger event to us than Christmas) much further in advance (and freeze what we can!)...and I know that my Muslim friends were preparing for Eid al Fitr much further in advance too. I'm shocked that your SIL didn't offer to assist as well!! Definitely for future, try and put in some boundaries: no hosting unless x/y/z happens, unless agreed (by you!) WAY in advance etc.

CosyLemur · 01/04/2025 21:05

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 05:51

I would never suggest a train, but I would have considered a taxi safe. Especially if it was a hour's drive each way for DH

Edited

A taxi for an hour at 10.30pm is definitely not safe for a woman/women on their own!

Terfarina · 01/04/2025 20:54

"It would be wonderful to have MIL & DIL join us at Eid, the more the merrier. Let's sort out who is going to prepare which dishes."

Woodenpigeon · 01/04/2025 20:39

I think you’re a saint Op, you definitely have a DH problem.
Could your DMil not come at a push to your family in future if invited( or allowed).
I would just enjoy the day with your family. And I wouldn’t invite SIL again.
I don’t know what is involved for Eid, but I sounds more hard work than Christmas dinner.
But also sounded delicious and are you allowed to eat the leftovers etc.
Because I won’t be cooking again for a week.

CliantheLang · 01/04/2025 20:12

To all the PPs I gave a laughing emoji to, please

READ THE FUCKING THREAD

Thank you.

Mercedes45 · 01/04/2025 20:04

"They only stayed for 3 hours so it was go go go after they arrive"

Na, sorry, this is madness. I have an image of you flying around the kitchen Being a dramatic mess. Chill out a bit.

Justmyopinionbut · 01/04/2025 20:03

I'd say that this event is the one that makes you rethink in future. Time for the big girl pants. You cannot do two big social events on one day. Your child comes first now. No more dinners if transporting the mil afterwards needs to happen. Boundaries need setting and planning needs to be the priority. Also, as a mum you have to readjust your expectations and family will just need to suck it up. You don't need a massive meal, super clean house and decorations....it might be nice but not a necessity. This can be the start of the new you putting yourself and child first. Good luck. It's a cathartic turning point!

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 19:56

If I had £5 for every time someone used a word like 'crazy', 'insane', or 'batshit', or used the imperative telling the OP what to do for her own good, I'd be able to cater a halal iftar for her next year. The level of entitlement in commenters is staggering. No wonder women of colour have had to organise their own feminist and womanist theories and practices.

Emmz1510 · 01/04/2025 19:53

Well under normal circumstances I would expect a parent to be able to manage their own child alone for two hours so the other could take their parents home! A taxi would have a cost a fortune. But I can see why this would just be another in a long line of stresses if he has spent the whole evening letting you do everything.
In future, if he intends on taking them home you tell him he needs to pull his weight before hand so things are settled. That means DD fed, bedtime routine done together and DD in bed or at least on the way there when he leaves. And he helps with dinner. He may not be able to cook (or is weaponised incompetence) but he can set table, serve drinks, help plate up etc….

GiggleWiggle246 · 01/04/2025 19:50

Sorry but I think you’re being so dramatic. I have my IL’s over a few times a year (Eid included!) and there’s more than 10 of them each time. Your 2 year old couldn’t sit & eat with you? My MIL is the same age and I’d never see her catch a train or taxi at that time with or without another person with her. My DH 100% would probably collect them & take them back leaving me with all 3 of the children! Cooking is not that hard for extra people if you prep well. Maybe ask them to both bring a dish next time so it eases the burden on you a little bit? And if they’re expecting a spotless home maybe remind them you’ve got a 2 year old to tackle as well as the housework. At the end of the day as a Muslim (which I’m assuming you are as you mentioned Eid) your DH’s mother has a right over him, our mothers carry Jannah at their feet so I think your DH dropping them home once or twice a year shouldn’t be this much of an issue.

HilaryJan · 01/04/2025 17:55

@GRexim not in the least bit blinkered. I’m telling you about my daily lived experiences and merely trying to give a snapshot of what Eid might look like. I offered no views on who places expectations on who, nor what goes on behind closed doors.

GRex · 01/04/2025 17:41

HilaryJan · 01/04/2025 16:57

I live in a Muslim country and have Muslim friends. The preparations for Eid are significantly more demanding than for Christmas dinner I can tell you that for certain. It’s an expectation that everyone wears new clothes, that the house is spotless and that the feast is plentiful and home cooked from scratch. As a teacher I can tell you that the kids stay up til all hours during the holy month of Ramadan and Eid. The idea of a set bedtime goes completely out the window. Daily life pretty much turns upside down. Currently? The streets were I live are absolutely silent , when they are chaotic, deafeningly loud and sometimes completely bewildering. This is because Eid is being celebrated in every home, and again, multiple multiple plates of food will be expected by guests, and delivered. I really feel for the OP. Whatever anyone has to say about disorganisation, martyrdom, her selfish husband etc etc …the expectations on her were huge and I think to some here very much misunderstood.

The expectations were only placed by OP, her DH, her MIL and her SIL. The 2yo had no idea, and was the one who wasn't fed at all. This is their closest family. I think some of you are very blinkered if you honestly believe that every Muslim in the world conforms to whatever "rules" you've seen from one place. Those expectations are entirely cultural not religious, while in most cultures you will find behind closed doors that kind families will take into account the actual humans involved in the process. Not the family OP married into, but with just 2 added extras they are a small enough number that her DH is more than capable of resetting expectations. If he chooses to.

Mumof3confused · 01/04/2025 17:14

I think you need to drop the expectations of a perfect home that needs to be presented in a certain way when you have a 2-year-old. If you’re expected to stay in the kitchen and cook all day for guests, your DH needs to take your toddler out and not suddenly start a DIY project. It all sounds really disorganised and stressful. The driving MIL home sounds like the least of your issue - surely your toddler sleeps and you can go to bed?

HilaryJan · 01/04/2025 16:57

I live in a Muslim country and have Muslim friends. The preparations for Eid are significantly more demanding than for Christmas dinner I can tell you that for certain. It’s an expectation that everyone wears new clothes, that the house is spotless and that the feast is plentiful and home cooked from scratch. As a teacher I can tell you that the kids stay up til all hours during the holy month of Ramadan and Eid. The idea of a set bedtime goes completely out the window. Daily life pretty much turns upside down. Currently? The streets were I live are absolutely silent , when they are chaotic, deafeningly loud and sometimes completely bewildering. This is because Eid is being celebrated in every home, and again, multiple multiple plates of food will be expected by guests, and delivered. I really feel for the OP. Whatever anyone has to say about disorganisation, martyrdom, her selfish husband etc etc …the expectations on her were huge and I think to some here very much misunderstood.

BernardButlersBra · 01/04/2025 15:33

Sounds like you have a DH problem and an in-laws problem to be honest. You need to drop the rope about being concerned about people not seeing each other and decline to host every time. They sound like lazy cheeky fuckers

Confused as to why people asking about why you hadn’t a plan for how your MIL is getting home. I wouldn’t given it any thought either. She’s 67! When lm that age l most likely will still be working and will be a big girl organising my way home

Sending sympathy, we have twins a similar age as your daughter. I’m tired and burned out, consequently l will not be hosting and providing elaborate meals. A lot of my family are confused this, seeming to think having / under 2 and working full time gives you lots of time to pander to others. It doesn’t. My boundaries are high. They most likely think lm hosting Christmas this year. I'm not -it's not my turn

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2025 14:51

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DeskJotter · 01/04/2025 14:50

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 08:26

You do realise that OP's family is Muslim and Eid is as big a deal as Christmas is for Christians? Other Muslim posters have confirmed the elaborate and time-consuming nature of the food, all of which needs to be cooked from scratch.

Would you tell a poster who was stressed about preparing an elaborate Christmas dinner single handedly with 4 days' notice to just chuck a casserole in the oven? Plus, guests coming for Christmas dinner would be very disappointed in a casserole, but there is no religious element dictating the food for Christmas dinner. It is traditional rather than religious, unlike Eid.

I mean, I would definitely be able to cook Christmas dinner for 2 guests with 4 days' notice. It's just a meal, albeit an elaborate one.

DeskJotter · 01/04/2025 14:48

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 08:12

I'm not sure if this is the case here, but the immaculate house is a sign of respect to the Lord on a major religious feast, not to impress guests. Certainly a day or more cleaning has been the norm among Orthodox Jewish or Hindu or some non-British Roman Catholic friends in preparing for feasts, for this reason. The repetition of 'crazy' and other dismissive language on this thread is sad and shows cultural loss.

But the OP is a SAHM with one child, surely the house is very clean already, so to make it immaculate would just take a few hours?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2025 14:30

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So what? They should all be bloody ashamed of themselves for their behaviour.

On the plus side, it's a win win for the OP if they decide they don't want to come again.

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