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To think DH shouldn't have dropped off MIL

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gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 05:45

Just wondering if I'm being unfair as I don't want to be.

DH and I hosted a dinner over the weekend. We have a 2 year and I'm a SAHM. MIL and SIL were invited. It was all a bit last minute (for me at least) and was organised on Wednesday earlier in the week. I spent the next couple of days shopping and buying gifts (Mother's Day, Eid etc) and cooking. It wasn't easy at DD is extra clingy at the moment and seems to only want to be around me. The night before the dinner ended up being an all nighter for both DH and I (me: cooking, DH: decorating and cleaning)

MIL and SIL live an hour away from us by car (and about the same by train). Neither drive and neither did DH until a couple of years ago. At the end of the dinner he asked me if it would be OK to drop them off home. It was 10.30pm - DD had still not had dinner, she was still awake, I was shattered and I really could have done with DH staying home to help clear up the post party chaos too.

When MIL usually comes DH will pick her up from her house and bring her over. I always do find it a bit stressful as it means leaving DD with me (she is 2) and I need to keep the house in a tidy state and get food sorted impending arrival of MIL. He will also drop her off. I am usually exhausted as I'm the one who is sorting out the food and for me when the guests leave, I could really do with DH being home.

MIL is 67, fit and healthy physically. I suspect some MH but not sure as DH says nothing is wrong. She won't take public transport alone, generally won't leave home unless someone is with her. English isn't her first language but then she did raise her children with only English and I personally would describe her as fluent. I have noticed though that she cannot follow conversation if the sentence structure is a bit complex. She also has no idea of where things are geographically - I don't mean just London, I mean countries. However, given then family have only ever used public transport and taxis, I would have thought it OK for MIL to go home in a taxi at least. DH says she doesn't like the smells or how restricted she is in one eg. can't have a conversation without feeling like the driver is listening.

AIBU to have wanted DH to just get MIL a taxi home on this particular occasion as I was just flat out exhausted from the dinner and the prep the days before. He also hadn't made sure DD had had dinner whilst I spent most of the evening in the kitchen, which meant I had do sort it out too. He was only gone for 2 hours but it was a busy 2 hours where lots needed doing and I would have appreciated the extra pair of hands.

Also, so as not to drip feed. I ALWAYS host my ILs. They never organise anything at their own place for special occasions and it's getting increasingly more tiring with DD. I feel like if she was older she could be more independent etc but right now she does need me and I find it tough to manage it all. I generally don't have dinner parties unless it's ILs coming.

If it wasn't a special occasion, I would have ordered in. But it being Eid, we had to have a specific kind of food which needed to be home made. And I had told DH prior to the event that I would rather we didn't host it as it would all fall on me to cook. DH is an atrocious cook. He wouldn't have a clue where to begin with something like this. He will usually clean the house and do the dishes etc before and after events.

OP posts:
candycane222 · 02/04/2025 10:52

FortyElephants · 01/04/2025 06:33

I appreciate there are cultural expectations at play but come on! 10 different dinner items all from scratch and you didn't even get to sit down and eat and all for TWO guests? You need to stop. Next Eid take them out for a lovely meal. You're not a 'bad wife' if you put your foot down and stop doing this.

Absolutely. Your DH presumably wants to play the big man, hosting the Eid dinner, but he is expecting you to do all the cooking. Yes I get he does the cleaning ("slowly"!) but NO WAY should he be deciding that you as a family are hosting an exhausting production like this. You have got to both agree before invitations are issued. And tbh this should apply for anything beyond a cup of tea.

If he isn't discussing these ideas with you first, and allowing you a veto before invitations are issued, then he is treating you like a houshold appliance. That's not very nice.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 02/04/2025 10:42

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 10:27

I don't mean it as a sweeping criticism of all things British, I'm just trying to say that how things are done here seems deeply unreasonable to me with regard to feeding children bland food and putting them away early. 10.30 is a reasonable time for a child to be up whose family has been on Ramadan time (lates) for a month and whose religion has a lunar calendar.

My children will enjoy parties, celebrations, etc. until late. I don’t mind them being up if they’re having fun but I will make sure they’ve had a proper dinner at their usual time. Any food after that is then just a bonus.

OP’s DH should have made sure their DD was fed!

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 02/04/2025 10:39

I’ve read all the OP’s posts now and I completely understand your frustrations about it @gollyimholly. Your DH sprung this on you and it would be like pulling Christmas out of the bag in its entirety with only a few days notice - buy all the presents, wrap them, put up decorations, make the house visitor ready, make all the traditional foods from scratch… ETA - I know it’s not like Christmas but that’s the only major event I have to compare it to and the thought of that stresses me enough.

As you were busy adhering to his family’s ridiculous demands cooking the feast, he should have made sure your DD was fed. That’s on him! You’re meant to be a team and feeding her is not solely your responsibility.

crumblingschools · 02/04/2025 10:31

@KaToby I think the OP clarified that it was more decorating the house for Eid and her husband took hours to do it as he is very slow

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 10:30

KaToby · 02/04/2025 10:28

This is what I was going to say.
You’re a SAHM to one child yet your house is so filthy it takes all night to clean it?

I don’t want to make it a competition but I was a single mum for 3 years with 3 children (2 under 5) I worked and my house was generally always in a state where I would be ready for visitors with an hours notice! You had from Wednesday and you don’t work so I’m really struggling to see the problem.
Do you and your DH not communicate about feeding your DD? Getting her to bed on time?

RTFT it's not about a casual dinner on a week night. It's about festivity not filth.

KaToby · 02/04/2025 10:28

WonderingWanda · 01/04/2025 06:01

I'm going to be honest, you sound quite disorganised and inefficient. Why wasn't your 2 year old fed some dinner and put to bed much earlier on in the evening so you could concentrate on hosting. How filthy was your house that you needed to stay up all night to clean it? How much food were you cooking that you couldn't leave the kitchen and sit down? Why weren't you getting everyone else into the kitchen to help you out if it's such a big job? Why didn't you leave the clearing up after for your dh to do?

This is what I was going to say.
You’re a SAHM to one child yet your house is so filthy it takes all night to clean it?

I don’t want to make it a competition but I was a single mum for 3 years with 3 children (2 under 5) I worked and my house was generally always in a state where I would be ready for visitors with an hours notice! You had from Wednesday and you don’t work so I’m really struggling to see the problem.
Do you and your DH not communicate about feeding your DD? Getting her to bed on time?

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 10:27

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 02/04/2025 10:23

My children are flexible in lots of ways but not feeding a 2yo until 10:30 at night is far too late for lots of children. My 4yo is the definition of hangry if you don’t feed her. Integrating children into adult life only works to a certain extent and part of being a parent is making your child’s needs a priority. I don’t think making sure they are fed at a reasonable time is pandering or going to lead to “drink and diet related health problems”.

I don't mean it as a sweeping criticism of all things British, I'm just trying to say that how things are done here seems deeply unreasonable to me with regard to feeding children bland food and putting them away early. 10.30 is a reasonable time for a child to be up whose family has been on Ramadan time (lates) for a month and whose religion has a lunar calendar.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 02/04/2025 10:23

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 10:08

Watching with interest how everyone is critical of children eating late. Wondering how many holiday in the Mediterranean where children eat late, or have praise for Scandinavia and Finland where children are up super late in the white nights of summer. Maybe if UK children were better integrated with adult diet and meal times we wouldn't have so many drink and diet related health problems in the population later?

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My children are flexible in lots of ways but not feeding a 2yo until 10:30 at night is far too late for lots of children. My 4yo is the definition of hangry if you don’t feed her. Integrating children into adult life only works to a certain extent and part of being a parent is making your child’s needs a priority. I don’t think making sure they are fed at a reasonable time is pandering or going to lead to “drink and diet related health problems”.

hydriotaphia · 02/04/2025 10:23

As usual there is a bit of a pile on. How mean to call the OP chaotic and disorganised. It was quite clear from her original posts and follow up posts that she is talking about making a complex South Asian holiday dinner and that it was not a matter of shoving a chicken in the oven. To manage that alongside looking after a 2 year old and alongside the evidently high standards of cleaning etc that the OP expects of herself (and perhaps her ILs expect of her) is the opposite of disorganised.

OP - yes, a taxi back would have been kinder to you and I think next time this would be a good idea. However, it sounds like your MIL is v set in her ways and perhaps a little vulnerable. I can understand that your DH might not have wanted to stick her in a taxi after the dinner if the idea had not been raised and discussed before - rightly or wrongly, I can see someone like that getting quite distressed if they were expecting a ride home. When you're all calm and happy, I would talk to your DH about how you can manage things better next time, so that he has time to explain how things will be to the ILs.

merfil · 02/04/2025 10:19

This thread is a perfect demonstration of how little people understand cultural differences. With a few exceptions almost everyone has belittled the OP. A Christmas meal is piss easy. I've done it and no way does it compare to Eid. Only the turkey needs any kind of prep. Christmas day also works completely differently. People are in their pyjamas slobbing around till late morning or afternoon. On Eid day the whole family have to be up early in the morning, showered and dressed up for prayers in the mosque. Traditional cooked breakfast, then visits or off to someone's (usually parents) for lunch. Then having people over for dinner. And people preparing overnight isn't unheard of because before Eid day people are observing Ramadan and busy with the prayers and rituals associated with that. Yes it can be a lot of work but it's what we do and we love the day.

OP I get your frustration. I don't think your DH is unreasonable for dropping his mother home, given the time. But next time insist on him helping out (even if he doesn't know to cook he can still do all the cutting and clearing up etc.) and do the cleaning/decorating in small amounts throughout Ramadan. I was like you when I was a young woman, trying to do everything in one go, but have learnt to relax and make things easy for me. For example I did the breakfast stuff days ago and froze it, making things nice and easy for me.

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 10:08

Watching with interest how everyone is critical of children eating late. Wondering how many holiday in the Mediterranean where children eat late, or have praise for Scandinavia and Finland where children are up super late in the white nights of summer. Maybe if UK children were better integrated with adult diet and meal times we wouldn't have so many drink and diet related health problems in the population later?

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 10:05

Liondoesntsleepatnight · 02/04/2025 09:33

This whole thing is mental. You stayed up all night cooking and decorating the house?! You didn’t check that your DC had eaten. These were two people in the house? Why would you do that and then begrudge your DH driving his family home? Both of your priorities are messed up

Congratulations, you must be person 9999 or thereabouts to dismiss a situation culturally different from yours as 'mental'.

Liondoesntsleepatnight · 02/04/2025 09:33

This whole thing is mental. You stayed up all night cooking and decorating the house?! You didn’t check that your DC had eaten. These were two people in the house? Why would you do that and then begrudge your DH driving his family home? Both of your priorities are messed up

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 08:21

ThinWomansBrain · 01/04/2025 22:51

FFS - I'm not that much younger, travel around London by myself, I certainly don't expect anyone to drive me home or organise a uber.
If I want one, I'll book it.
Occasionally if it gets towards the last train friends might invite me to stay over, but I can't remember the last time I did that, it's generally easier to go home (under my own steam).

Are you fluent in English and ok with directions? OP's first post clarified that her MIL isn't. Are you a visible ethnic or religious minority much attacked in the media nowadays?

Congratulations on your independence but it's the result of chances of birth and privilege as well as individual effort.

RiversofOtter5 · 02/04/2025 08:18

Maddy70 · 02/04/2025 01:25

Indian food is as complicated or as easy as western food to make. Why did it take so long to make samosas? Just buy them not everything had to me made from scratch

Untrue if you are making traditional South Asian celebration food. It's complex.

Shop bought samosas are not comparable. Also shop food is not ritually pure unless from certified specialist outlets

I don't know but the OP may have needed a trusted supplier for a religious occasion anyway.

Noodles1234 · 02/04/2025 06:15

I wouldn’t be putting MiL in a taxi, but I wouldn’t have had everyone over so late in the day as that’s unfair to expect you / DH to make that drive and back. Could they stay over?
You must be exhausted, I would advise to arrange before hand if they need lifts it has to be earlier in the day and latest to leave yours to take them home 7pm. Your DC is your priority here and she needs to eat / sleep at correct times.

beachcitygirl · 02/04/2025 05:30

Your child didn’t eat until after 10? That’s the problem right there

BonnieBug · 02/04/2025 04:52

How hard can cooking some food and tidying up after be? People do this with multiple kids all the time!
To be honest it sounds like you're just irritated at your husband helping your mil for some reason, even though you've said she a nice lady.

Maddy70 · 02/04/2025 01:25

Indian food is as complicated or as easy as western food to make. Why did it take so long to make samosas? Just buy them not everything had to me made from scratch

Codlingmoths · 01/04/2025 23:32

JudgeJ · 01/04/2025 22:47

And the OP to get a job too in stead of being a SAHM who still can't manage a meal for 4 people without a load of drama.

Oh and Saturday she went to her family for Eid!! Would you skip Christmas dinner at your parents to get the cooking done for your in laws? No fucking way.

Codlingmoths · 01/04/2025 23:31

JudgeJ · 01/04/2025 22:47

And the OP to get a job too in stead of being a SAHM who still can't manage a meal for 4 people without a load of drama.

It was only 4 because half of them cancelled. She gave her schedule. It was 3 days. Thursday she went to multiple shops to get the food they needed, Friday /saturday she cooked multiple complicated traditional recipes because that’s what was needed to keep the guests happy. Would I have done it? No. Do many women do it? Yes. Is kicking down on these women and telling them they’re pathetic really a good plan? No. Pathetic is the man who can’t cook, treats the op like his domestic servant and books guests without asking her, forgets to feed his child.

ThinWomansBrain · 01/04/2025 22:51

FFS - I'm not that much younger, travel around London by myself, I certainly don't expect anyone to drive me home or organise a uber.
If I want one, I'll book it.
Occasionally if it gets towards the last train friends might invite me to stay over, but I can't remember the last time I did that, it's generally easier to go home (under my own steam).

JudgeJ · 01/04/2025 22:47

crumblingschools · 01/04/2025 14:17

Time for DH to learn how to cook

And the OP to get a job too in stead of being a SAHM who still can't manage a meal for 4 people without a load of drama.

Botanybaby · 01/04/2025 22:43

Reading all the responses now and I'm beginning to feel your stress op so apologies for the earlier comment

It sounds like you were trying your hardest to accommodate both sides of family and provide a perfect Eid celebration for your mother in law

Things got away from you as you were hosting and your little ones routine was abit up the wall

And let's face it who here hasn't had a kid who's crashed out at 4pm and woke at 7:30 on Xmas day and there's only buffet and turkey curry on the go?

I started with a harsh reply judging you but on reflection you were trying to do the best by everyone with little to no support from a soul and it kind of sucks

Then your hubby pissed off for 2 hours driving his mum uken and back leaving you with a fractious hungry tired over stimulatied toddler

Justmovehousethen · 01/04/2025 22:34

Sounds very dramatic and work intensive for a 3 hour visit.

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