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To think DH shouldn't have dropped off MIL

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gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 05:45

Just wondering if I'm being unfair as I don't want to be.

DH and I hosted a dinner over the weekend. We have a 2 year and I'm a SAHM. MIL and SIL were invited. It was all a bit last minute (for me at least) and was organised on Wednesday earlier in the week. I spent the next couple of days shopping and buying gifts (Mother's Day, Eid etc) and cooking. It wasn't easy at DD is extra clingy at the moment and seems to only want to be around me. The night before the dinner ended up being an all nighter for both DH and I (me: cooking, DH: decorating and cleaning)

MIL and SIL live an hour away from us by car (and about the same by train). Neither drive and neither did DH until a couple of years ago. At the end of the dinner he asked me if it would be OK to drop them off home. It was 10.30pm - DD had still not had dinner, she was still awake, I was shattered and I really could have done with DH staying home to help clear up the post party chaos too.

When MIL usually comes DH will pick her up from her house and bring her over. I always do find it a bit stressful as it means leaving DD with me (she is 2) and I need to keep the house in a tidy state and get food sorted impending arrival of MIL. He will also drop her off. I am usually exhausted as I'm the one who is sorting out the food and for me when the guests leave, I could really do with DH being home.

MIL is 67, fit and healthy physically. I suspect some MH but not sure as DH says nothing is wrong. She won't take public transport alone, generally won't leave home unless someone is with her. English isn't her first language but then she did raise her children with only English and I personally would describe her as fluent. I have noticed though that she cannot follow conversation if the sentence structure is a bit complex. She also has no idea of where things are geographically - I don't mean just London, I mean countries. However, given then family have only ever used public transport and taxis, I would have thought it OK for MIL to go home in a taxi at least. DH says she doesn't like the smells or how restricted she is in one eg. can't have a conversation without feeling like the driver is listening.

AIBU to have wanted DH to just get MIL a taxi home on this particular occasion as I was just flat out exhausted from the dinner and the prep the days before. He also hadn't made sure DD had had dinner whilst I spent most of the evening in the kitchen, which meant I had do sort it out too. He was only gone for 2 hours but it was a busy 2 hours where lots needed doing and I would have appreciated the extra pair of hands.

Also, so as not to drip feed. I ALWAYS host my ILs. They never organise anything at their own place for special occasions and it's getting increasingly more tiring with DD. I feel like if she was older she could be more independent etc but right now she does need me and I find it tough to manage it all. I generally don't have dinner parties unless it's ILs coming.

If it wasn't a special occasion, I would have ordered in. But it being Eid, we had to have a specific kind of food which needed to be home made. And I had told DH prior to the event that I would rather we didn't host it as it would all fall on me to cook. DH is an atrocious cook. He wouldn't have a clue where to begin with something like this. He will usually clean the house and do the dishes etc before and after events.

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ScrewedByFunding · 01/04/2025 07:34

RatandToad · 01/04/2025 07:32

So rude and utterly culturally oblivious. It was Eid. You don't just chuck a casserole in the oven. The number of similar minded people on this thread, I can only assume that some sort of bat signal has gone up calling them all to the thread to dismiss OP's culture.

Is it cultural to also not feed children at Eid? Because surely that's the biggest issue despite OP making it all about a lift home.

RiversofOtter5 · 01/04/2025 07:34

@gollyimholly if you ask MN to move this thread to the South Asian or the Muslim board, you might receive better replies. At the moment, although you sought advice here, you're having to educate Mumsnetters who don't understand certain family structures or the complexity of ritual preparations in a home. It's not fair to you; I'm sorry. (Also I'm perplexed that so many Mumsnetters only have Christmas dinner as a lived experience point of reference for family hosting; I wish more people socialised outside their own cultural groups.)

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2025 07:33

TheAmusedQuail · 01/04/2025 07:26

I think that has to be the lesson that comes out of this. Tell your husband NO MORE last minute arrangements. You're not doing it. If he wants it to happen, it needs to be a proper plan. You know who is hosting 2 weeks in advance. Otherwise, you're not cooking.

I think she should say she's not doing it full stop.

She's not doing it at all next year, because it's someone else's turn to host.

And the year after that, they can have a discussion, and IF her husband really wants to host something at their house, it's on the condition that the cooking preparation is divided up in advance, with one person bringing each thing. Any children will be properly cared for, the OP will get to sit down and eat with everyone else, and her husband will do all the clearing up afterwards. (The next day, if necessary.) And if any of those conditions are not met, they are NEVER hosting Eid at their house again.

She really does need to put her foot down.

The problem is that her husband clearly wants to look like the perfect son who has married the perfect wife who can click her fingers like Mary Poppins and produce a feast for the whole family at the drop of a hat, leaving him free to schmooze his mother and drive her home afterwards. But real life is not magic and these things take work.

Even if her husband is completely stupid, his mother and sister should know how much work these things take and they should have offered to help. But they were happy to take advantage of the OP's husband wanting to be the big "I am" because it meant that they didn't have to lift a finger.

Either way, nothing will ever change unless the OP takes a stand and says "never again".

RatandToad · 01/04/2025 07:32

Ohioatdawn · 01/04/2025 07:12

I have to say I've never heard the likes of it either.
I've tried to be sympathetic as I've read the OP.
But essentially, she has 1 toddler to look after.
That's it.
I can't work out why that means cooking, tidying and decorating (decorating?!?) all night long the night before 2 family members come round for dinner. Or why it means the DH can't drive his DM home. Or why it means the toddler was still up and still hadn't been given dinner by 10:30pm.
I mean, just chuck a casserole in a pot, bung it in the oven for dinner, tell the 2 family members your house is a bit of a mess at the moment but that they need to just take you as they find you, feed your toddler dinner at the same time as the rest of you are eating dinner, and put your toddler to bed whilst DH drives his mum home.
This is such a normal situation.

Edited

So rude and utterly culturally oblivious. It was Eid. You don't just chuck a casserole in the oven. The number of similar minded people on this thread, I can only assume that some sort of bat signal has gone up calling them all to the thread to dismiss OP's culture.

ShhhItsJustMagic · 01/04/2025 07:31

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:21

I think I've answered all the recurring questions so far so please do check my more recent posts.

I think the only one I didn't reply to was the decorating - it wasn't DIY, it was some fairy lights, balloons and little bits of Eid decor.

A PP said how it wasn't about DH driving MIL.home - and they really hit the nail on the head. I think by that point in the night, I just wanted to keel over. Also I was fasting and tired myself and just not feeling my best. My only experience of doing this type of cooking is since being married. Before marriage, it really was a big family effort and we'd all contribute a bit for it all to come together. I have previously tried to keep it low key but nobody ate, there have been tears (SIL), lots of fussy eaters about food not being right etc.

I'm sorry but your in laws sound pretty selfish, OP.

You are clearly very kind and generous, you deserved help!

Do make sure you make it clear to DH you won't be single handedly prepping Eid ever again.

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:30

TheAmusedQuail · 01/04/2025 07:26

I think that has to be the lesson that comes out of this. Tell your husband NO MORE last minute arrangements. You're not doing it. If he wants it to happen, it needs to be a proper plan. You know who is hosting 2 weeks in advance. Otherwise, you're not cooking.

It isn't just DH, his entire family are so last minute. I brought up Eid with him about three weeks ago - we always see both sides of the family and my family were trying to organise when to do their meal. Back then we agreed we'd go see MIL. So you can imagine how annoyed I was on Wednesday that that's not what was happening. On Thursday there was conversation about it going from lunch to dinner because that was better for ILs. On Sunday (day of Eid itself) the other guests cancelled. They are honestly so disorganised and I hate it

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Chezxx · 01/04/2025 07:30

OP, your husband sounds lazy and useless and his sister not much better.
You take on too much.
Life is always hard with lazy men.
You are not respfor your lazy husbands relationship with his mother.
Stop the entertaining.
Stop feeling responsible when your husband doesn't.
The not feeding his child tells me he really is useless.

Stop being so tolerant of him. Do not have lots of children with a lazy selfish man.

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 01/04/2025 07:30

As per usual on MN, people aren't getting the context of a different culture/religion.

Eid hosting is like Christmas dinner hosting hence the cleaning and hours of cooking of multiple and "not the usual dinner party" dishes.

And a child staying up late is also completely normal for Eid/Christmas.

OP, this doesn't feel like a partnership with your DH. He says, you do. And your feelings/opinions/energy levels are of no concern to him. Is he more concerned with how things look to others rather than your wellbeing?

TheHerboriste · 01/04/2025 07:30

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 06:01

This is the worst bit for me. I assumed DH would have done it. I was in the kitchen for most of it. They only stayed for 3 hours so it was go go go after they arrived. If I had known DH didn't, I would have paused everything and given DD dinner.

I do not understand.

what takes hours and hours and hours of cooking for two extra people, and what is “go go go” about serving a meal for four adults? Why was the child not fed and in bed by 8pm?

NotTheBossOfTheWorld · 01/04/2025 07:29

@gollyimholly I used to do that kind of thing and end up exhausted and resentful, but then I learnt. If you're going to act like a doormat, inconsiderate people will walk all over you. Your husband and in-laws are happy to sit and watch you exhaust yourself. Why are you happy to let that happen?

You could have said to DH "I'm not able to do the fancy cooking, if you've invited them the options are you can cook, or order in, or they can bring the food". If they are unhappy with you isn't that a less bad situation than being up all night, not eating and not feeding your toddler?

Show your daughter that you and her matter.

LannieDuck · 01/04/2025 07:29

I don't understand how the three of them were comfortable tucking into food that you'd spent hours making, but were too overwhelmed to enjoy yourself. Eid might be about family, but they relegated you to the role of servant. Your husband is completely at fault here.

exprecis · 01/04/2025 07:27

I do think people aren't fully understanding what an Eid meal involves.

I do agree with @Azandme that more can be prepped in advance than a lot of Indians realise (though I was a bit 😮about the roti dough!) but the other element that I suspect people don't get is how much needs to be done on the spot - things like samosas and bhajis are so much nicer freshly fried that in most families someone is doing that in the kitchen throughout, similarly rotis are done fresh, most things are heated on the stove, it's not like a Christmas dinner where you can shove it all in the oven and sit and wait. My parents use their oven for storage!

Having said all of that, it's absolutely an option to simplify the menu, just because it's traditional doesn't mean you can't and also I agree with a few PP that traditionally family would bring some elements of the meal, usually one person wouldn't do the lot. So I think next time, I would say "oh now we have a little one, I can't do the full menu, but if you really want XXX, you are welcome to bring it"

TheAmusedQuail · 01/04/2025 07:26

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:22

Because I wasn't expecting host an Eid dinner. Prior to Wednesday night I assumed we would just go and see MIL

I think that has to be the lesson that comes out of this. Tell your husband NO MORE last minute arrangements. You're not doing it. If he wants it to happen, it needs to be a proper plan. You know who is hosting 2 weeks in advance. Otherwise, you're not cooking.

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:22

Lougle · 01/04/2025 07:20

@Azandme I'm so glad you posted that. I was wondering why this stuff couldn't be prepped and frozen.

Because I wasn't expecting host an Eid dinner. Prior to Wednesday night I assumed we would just go and see MIL

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Sofiewoo · 01/04/2025 07:21

@Ohioatdawn oh come on, you’re being totally disingenuous. Why the faux shock at someone decorating for Eid?

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:21

I think I've answered all the recurring questions so far so please do check my more recent posts.

I think the only one I didn't reply to was the decorating - it wasn't DIY, it was some fairy lights, balloons and little bits of Eid decor.

A PP said how it wasn't about DH driving MIL.home - and they really hit the nail on the head. I think by that point in the night, I just wanted to keel over. Also I was fasting and tired myself and just not feeling my best. My only experience of doing this type of cooking is since being married. Before marriage, it really was a big family effort and we'd all contribute a bit for it all to come together. I have previously tried to keep it low key but nobody ate, there have been tears (SIL), lots of fussy eaters about food not being right etc.

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Bestfootforward11 · 01/04/2025 07:20

I don’t think the issue is your DH driving your MIL home at 10.30 at night. I could see my husband doing that for my parents to be honest! The issue is the meal being foisted on you etc and him not making sure the little one had dinner. The latter could be sorted by just communicating better. The former needs a proper sit down conversation about alternative options as that doesn’t seem fair at all.

Lougle · 01/04/2025 07:20

@Azandme I'm so glad you posted that. I was wondering why this stuff couldn't be prepped and frozen.

BlueMum16 · 01/04/2025 07:19

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 07:09

I didn't have time to eat. I initially sat at the table with a plate for DD to feed her and then myself - how things would happen ordinarily. But had to move on back to the kitchen to organise the next lot of food. I didn't have a lot of time as when MIL and SIL arrived, they said they weren't going to stay for long.

YANBU except you and your DD should have been able to eat with everyone else.

I cannot imagine the effort to cook a celebratory meal like this for Eid but your DH and his DM should have helped to allow you to eat with them.

And arriving in a taxi is fine but not home? Ridiculous. You have a DH problem. He needs to put you and your DD first.

Azandme · 01/04/2025 07:18

BlondiePortz · 01/04/2025 07:15

But if Inlaws offer help would therr be complaints of 'they don't think I can cope they are judging me they must be talking about me behind my back' so really can they ever win?

I don't understand what it has to be performance

It "has to be a performance" because it's Eid. Not just any old family dinner.

It's a hugely important religious event, and there are a lot of traditions and cultural expectations.

ItisIbeserk · 01/04/2025 07:17

I’ve never celebrated Eid but having read this thread, and having friends who are Muslim, it really isn’t an hour’s work to prepare this meal, nor a matter of chucking a casserole in a pot. But it is usually a group effort if you have family members coming together and especially laborious to do if you’re not in the swing of cooking this sort of stuff every day.

The lift home feels unnecessary and the last minute invitation very unhelpful. I think for next time you and DH need to be very clear with each other on what will happen when, and not let so much land on you whatever happens.

ShhhItsJustMagic · 01/04/2025 07:16

I can't believe you pulled it off with just a few days notice, OP!

I bet the food was amazing 👏

The significance of Eid is all about food & family in a similar way that Christmas is, and I'd say that Eid has much more time consuming expectations about food with a complex menu.

It was really unfair of your DH to extend the invite without checking with you first.

It was even more unfair that MIL and SIL don't contribute anything at all.

I don't think it was unreasonable of your DH to drop them home but you being left with all the clean up must have been really disheartening.

Can you make it clear to DH you don't wish to host again? Or at least not for a LONG time?!

Hope you get to rest up today. And your little one would have been fine, sounds like she had plenty of food, one late meal won't harm her.

BlondiePortz · 01/04/2025 07:15

bigvig · 01/04/2025 07:11

Your ILs are lazy to not offer any help. However you should scale back these kind of events. If your DH organises something like this again simply state - that's fine but it will have to be a takeaway or a simple meal. What's wrong wirh saying that?

But if Inlaws offer help would therr be complaints of 'they don't think I can cope they are judging me they must be talking about me behind my back' so really can they ever win?

I don't understand what it has to be performance

autisticbookworm · 01/04/2025 07:14

I wouldn’t want to do a 2 hour round trip to drop someone off. But if dh does he can crack on. But if I were entertaining with a toddler food would be pretty basic. And I’d have cleaned up in the morning while dh had kids or vice versa. It feels like your are being a bit dramatic and resentful. If you invite them get dh helping with prep, keep it simple don’t make life harder for yourself than it needs to be.

Azandme · 01/04/2025 07:14

gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 06:46

It makes no difference whether the food is for 4 people or 10 people - cooking this kind of food is just time consuming.

It is, and I think your biggest issue was the short notice from your husband.

The food for Eid is epic, and hugely time consuming, but something I have learnt (that my Indian born partner was initially shocked by) is that most of it can be either made in advance or prepped. This might be useful if there is a next time.

In India food is made on the day because the heat and the historic lack of refrigeration meant it used to have to be. Even though this is no longer the case, traditions persist. His family don't prep and freeze. We do though 😁.

Most gravies are fine made in advance and refrigerated/frozen then reheated Samosa can be made and frozen before frying, as can the filling. They can also be frozen after frying and heated through in the oven - but this is slightly less good. Even roti dough can be made in advance, portioned and frozen until needed (do NOT tell my MIL I do this! 😁)

I used to put toddler dd in her highchair when I cooked, and let her "help". It was amazing how long she'd bash around with roti dough, some frozen peas, and some crispy onions and we used to cook and eat her creations (sometimes faked on my part!)

Biryani does need to be made on the day, even though I prefer day 2. But it's a lot less work to just make biryani from scratch, rather than everything.

Desserts - it depends what you made, but there are work around for many of them. My ILs buy them - also a good work around if you live in an area where you can get freshly handmade.

Preparing food is usually a group activity, if they aren't going to help they need to be a little flexible in their expectations.