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To think DH shouldn't have dropped off MIL

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gollyimholly · 01/04/2025 05:45

Just wondering if I'm being unfair as I don't want to be.

DH and I hosted a dinner over the weekend. We have a 2 year and I'm a SAHM. MIL and SIL were invited. It was all a bit last minute (for me at least) and was organised on Wednesday earlier in the week. I spent the next couple of days shopping and buying gifts (Mother's Day, Eid etc) and cooking. It wasn't easy at DD is extra clingy at the moment and seems to only want to be around me. The night before the dinner ended up being an all nighter for both DH and I (me: cooking, DH: decorating and cleaning)

MIL and SIL live an hour away from us by car (and about the same by train). Neither drive and neither did DH until a couple of years ago. At the end of the dinner he asked me if it would be OK to drop them off home. It was 10.30pm - DD had still not had dinner, she was still awake, I was shattered and I really could have done with DH staying home to help clear up the post party chaos too.

When MIL usually comes DH will pick her up from her house and bring her over. I always do find it a bit stressful as it means leaving DD with me (she is 2) and I need to keep the house in a tidy state and get food sorted impending arrival of MIL. He will also drop her off. I am usually exhausted as I'm the one who is sorting out the food and for me when the guests leave, I could really do with DH being home.

MIL is 67, fit and healthy physically. I suspect some MH but not sure as DH says nothing is wrong. She won't take public transport alone, generally won't leave home unless someone is with her. English isn't her first language but then she did raise her children with only English and I personally would describe her as fluent. I have noticed though that she cannot follow conversation if the sentence structure is a bit complex. She also has no idea of where things are geographically - I don't mean just London, I mean countries. However, given then family have only ever used public transport and taxis, I would have thought it OK for MIL to go home in a taxi at least. DH says she doesn't like the smells or how restricted she is in one eg. can't have a conversation without feeling like the driver is listening.

AIBU to have wanted DH to just get MIL a taxi home on this particular occasion as I was just flat out exhausted from the dinner and the prep the days before. He also hadn't made sure DD had had dinner whilst I spent most of the evening in the kitchen, which meant I had do sort it out too. He was only gone for 2 hours but it was a busy 2 hours where lots needed doing and I would have appreciated the extra pair of hands.

Also, so as not to drip feed. I ALWAYS host my ILs. They never organise anything at their own place for special occasions and it's getting increasingly more tiring with DD. I feel like if she was older she could be more independent etc but right now she does need me and I find it tough to manage it all. I generally don't have dinner parties unless it's ILs coming.

If it wasn't a special occasion, I would have ordered in. But it being Eid, we had to have a specific kind of food which needed to be home made. And I had told DH prior to the event that I would rather we didn't host it as it would all fall on me to cook. DH is an atrocious cook. He wouldn't have a clue where to begin with something like this. He will usually clean the house and do the dishes etc before and after events.

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ShhhItsJustMagic · 05/04/2025 19:05

Mrsgus · 05/04/2025 19:04

What in the hell did you prepare and cook for it to have taken THAT long for just 4 adults and a 2 year old (who shockingly didn't get to eat any of it with the others!!)? Mind boggling!!

Read the thread ffs.

Mrsgus · 05/04/2025 19:04

What in the hell did you prepare and cook for it to have taken THAT long for just 4 adults and a 2 year old (who shockingly didn't get to eat any of it with the others!!)? Mind boggling!!

Millyjanice · 04/04/2025 07:25

GRex · 03/04/2025 17:56

Oh come off it! Show me anyone from any of those cultures who has a 2yo at the table and doesn't feed them! Or who doesn't offer help so the host can join. You've clearly never been to Seder, Diwali, nor even met an Italian if you think that. For that matter, I've never met Muslims who sit in state without offfering help nor trying to feed the kids This is ALL about the individuals involved, stop trying to making it a cultural battle. OP should have made the cooking simpler knowing it was just her, ILs should have stepped up to offer help, the DH should have at least fed the kid!

Absolutely this !
Culturally my family is Greek/ British and we all work together and help each other at any big family events. No way would the host be allowed to skivvy away in the kitchen like that !

RiversofOtter5 · 03/04/2025 19:23

GRex · 03/04/2025 17:56

Oh come off it! Show me anyone from any of those cultures who has a 2yo at the table and doesn't feed them! Or who doesn't offer help so the host can join. You've clearly never been to Seder, Diwali, nor even met an Italian if you think that. For that matter, I've never met Muslims who sit in state without offfering help nor trying to feed the kids This is ALL about the individuals involved, stop trying to making it a cultural battle. OP should have made the cooking simpler knowing it was just her, ILs should have stepped up to offer help, the DH should have at least fed the kid!

You are too funny!

GRex · 03/04/2025 17:56

RiversofOtter5 · 03/04/2025 13:35

Keeping watching this thread open-mouthed at how many people need new friends who make real samosas and have a religion that meaningfully intersects with daily life.

I didn't know so many didn't know.

Please get out there and mingle. Whether with strict Jains or observant Jews or Italian Catholics or South Indian Hindus or anyone 'different'. Life is a rich tapestry.

No wonder divisive politicians are getting away with so much if we don't or won't know our neighbours in any substantial way.

Oh come off it! Show me anyone from any of those cultures who has a 2yo at the table and doesn't feed them! Or who doesn't offer help so the host can join. You've clearly never been to Seder, Diwali, nor even met an Italian if you think that. For that matter, I've never met Muslims who sit in state without offfering help nor trying to feed the kids This is ALL about the individuals involved, stop trying to making it a cultural battle. OP should have made the cooking simpler knowing it was just her, ILs should have stepped up to offer help, the DH should have at least fed the kid!

ErinAoife · 03/04/2025 17:42

I don't get why your daughter did nothave any dinner when you had a meal with your in laws. Where was your daughter when you were having the meal. I personally would have drove my mom back after the meal as I won not want her to travel on her own at this time.

RiversofOtter5 · 03/04/2025 13:35

Keeping watching this thread open-mouthed at how many people need new friends who make real samosas and have a religion that meaningfully intersects with daily life.

I didn't know so many didn't know.

Please get out there and mingle. Whether with strict Jains or observant Jews or Italian Catholics or South Indian Hindus or anyone 'different'. Life is a rich tapestry.

No wonder divisive politicians are getting away with so much if we don't or won't know our neighbours in any substantial way.

pikkumyy77 · 03/04/2025 11:59

Please don’t let the hard of reading keep you from updating this thread, OP. I hope you and your dh reach a good understanding and that this coming year is the best ever for your little family.

Ownedbykitties · 03/04/2025 11:32

This is unbelievable! Did not fed or put to bed. Cooking so many courses from scratch that you didn't even get to sit down with your guests and spend time with them. I might be out of order, but what century are we in?

orangeblosssom · 03/04/2025 11:19

In the future, either cook fewer dishes or order in.
You have created high standards for yourself that cannot be met. This is leading to stress.

croydon15 · 03/04/2025 10:04

5 adults not able to feed a 2 year old properly and put her to bed at a reasonable time is ridiculous and pure neglect. How do you expect a 2 year old to feed them self, ridiculous.
Whether ie Eid or Xmas a child needs should come first.

BCSurvivor · 03/04/2025 09:54

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 01/04/2025 05:58

Sorry. Why had no one fed the 2yo?!

This!
10.30pm at night and the 2 year old still hadn't had dinner???

merfil · 03/04/2025 09:51

It doesn't look like the child was being starved until 10.30 pm. She was eating, just not her own designated "proper" meal. So all the outrage seems a bit much.

Imbusytodaysorry · 03/04/2025 09:43

gollyimholly · 03/04/2025 09:23

We did end up chatting last night. I couldn't help myself with how upset I was feeling. It went a bit pear shaped but ultimately I'm happy with the end result. I will add more detail when I get a chance but want to specifically reply to what @MissScarletInTheBallroom has said here so place marking for later.

@MissScarletInTheBallroom absolutely!
Trying to keep a mother and sister happy at the expensive of his wife and Dd and by the looks of it himself. .
He needs to focus on how lucky he actulay is and embrace his wife’s family .
Id leave the mil and sil to fend for themselves now.

MrsBroccolini · 03/04/2025 09:41

KaToby · 03/04/2025 06:42

Even if you don’t do BLW (which is absolutely fine) by 2 a child should be able to feed themselves independently.

100%

gollyimholly · 03/04/2025 09:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/04/2025 08:28

The problem is that her husband's family expected all these dishes and would have a strop if they didn't get them, and her husband invited them all on three days' notice without consulting her.

Basically the only way for the OP to avoid what actually happened would have involved her husband losing face in front of his family, and she didn't want that. She doesn't even want to read him the riot act now, because he's feeling too "sensitive" about it.

If he's feeling sensitive it's because he knows he messed up, that he never should have invited his family in the circumstances, and that in doing so he dropped the OP right in it. But having that conversation would also involve admitting that he just doesn't have the kind of family he wishes he had, a family like the OP's where they can have these wonderful celebrations and everyone mucks in to help. The closest he can get to that is having the OP work her fingers to the bone doing an amount of work that would usually be done by multiple people, the wonderful meal ends up on the table for his ungrateful mother and sister, and he can pretend that the OP clicked her fingers like Mary Poppins and it all appeared. Except that the OP didn't get to sit down and their daughter didn't get fed, so if he's honest with himself he knows that despite all the effort it wasn't a success. It wasn't the kind of celebration he wanted and it never will be, because his family are not like the OP's family.

That's a hard thing to admit.

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We did end up chatting last night. I couldn't help myself with how upset I was feeling. It went a bit pear shaped but ultimately I'm happy with the end result. I will add more detail when I get a chance but want to specifically reply to what @MissScarletInTheBallroom has said here so place marking for later.

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RiversofOtter5 · 03/04/2025 09:17

So many people are focused on supermarket samosas or homemade samosas, it must be a suppressed craving for the out of reach good food or a need to pretend it doesn't exist because they can't get it.

The things in supermarkets aren't even samosas. I don't know what they are. It's better not to offer samosiform snacks if you can't offer homemade at this kind of festival, just do something different or order ahead from a clean private caterer and freeze.

#samosaenvy

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/04/2025 08:55

@gollyimholly If you ever do host them again, which in my view should not be next year, what you could do is this. Delegate tasks to MIL and SIL, but get them to bring things like canapes and desserts, which can be substituted with less good ready made alternatives if necessary. For example, get some ready made vegetable samosas from Tesco and have them in the freezer. (I assume the meat ones you can get in regular supermarkets aren't halal.) Get some ready made western desserts like a chocolate pudding or similar. Either something that can be heated up from frozen or something you can keep in the fridge and freeze for another time if it doesn't get eaten.

The point of this is that if they actually do their part and bring homemade samosas and desserts, so much the better and you can have your special meal without cutting any corners. But if they show up on the day without bringing what they were supposed to bring, you have a backup option in the fridge/freezer and can save the day. No, it won't be as good as if you had slaved away making everything from scratch, but the part that will be sub-par will the part that they were responsible for.

If they say from the outset that they aren't willing to bring anything then you can legitimately just cancel the whole thing. You say, "No, an Eid celebration meal doesn't just materialise by magic. It's too expensive and too much work for one person to do on their own. I tried it once and it was a really bad idea, your sisters/husband cancelled on us at the last minute, I didn't have a single second to sit down and eat, and DD didn't even get fed. I know you love the idea of a celebration like the ones we have in my family, but it takes multiple people working together to pull it off. If you're not willing to muck in, the whole thing is off."

Tourmalines · 03/04/2025 08:30

I think you did a wonderful job and hats off to you . I think MIl and SIL were cheeky for not at least helping with dishes especially as your husband drove them home, a two hour round trip at that time of night is crazy . They should have got a taxi . I see you even pay for that usually. They sure seem to have no conscience especially as they never reciprocate. Put your foot down and don’t do it so often .

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/04/2025 08:28

MushMonster · 03/04/2025 08:15

But lots of people have found themselves exhausted after cooking Christmas dinners. You can see thread after thread.
OP had already spent days preparing and a night cooking before hosting, if you actually read it. That is excessive, even for 5 star hotel, who caters for hundreds or any Christmas dinner.
What about simplify to 3 days of prep, one night of cooking and a few min of warming up on the day, so she sits to talk to family and enjoy the meal with them?
Just make a few less dishes. So prioritise family versus cooking more food than can be eaten. And if they so much want the whole menu, then someone will have to help, like in OP's own family.
Also, the more important part, who knows any family where a 2 year old is at risk of not eating during a family event? Because the people I know, the poor child is more at risk of being stuffed by all the family members fussing over them.
It is not OP's fault per se, but she and her DH need to do less cooking and more sitting. The same applies to those having issues with the Christmas dinner: simplify, so it is actually an enjoyable day, for all.

The problem is that her husband's family expected all these dishes and would have a strop if they didn't get them, and her husband invited them all on three days' notice without consulting her.

Basically the only way for the OP to avoid what actually happened would have involved her husband losing face in front of his family, and she didn't want that. She doesn't even want to read him the riot act now, because he's feeling too "sensitive" about it.

If he's feeling sensitive it's because he knows he messed up, that he never should have invited his family in the circumstances, and that in doing so he dropped the OP right in it. But having that conversation would also involve admitting that he just doesn't have the kind of family he wishes he had, a family like the OP's where they can have these wonderful celebrations and everyone mucks in to help. The closest he can get to that is having the OP work her fingers to the bone doing an amount of work that would usually be done by multiple people, the wonderful meal ends up on the table for his ungrateful mother and sister, and he can pretend that the OP clicked her fingers like Mary Poppins and it all appeared. Except that the OP didn't get to sit down and their daughter didn't get fed, so if he's honest with himself he knows that despite all the effort it wasn't a success. It wasn't the kind of celebration he wanted and it never will be, because his family are not like the OP's family.

That's a hard thing to admit.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/04/2025 08:22

InvestingMimi · 03/04/2025 06:53

Agreed

Not sure how you or @FortyElephants could come to this conclusion if you had actually read the thread tbh.

MushMonster · 03/04/2025 08:15

But lots of people have found themselves exhausted after cooking Christmas dinners. You can see thread after thread.
OP had already spent days preparing and a night cooking before hosting, if you actually read it. That is excessive, even for 5 star hotel, who caters for hundreds or any Christmas dinner.
What about simplify to 3 days of prep, one night of cooking and a few min of warming up on the day, so she sits to talk to family and enjoy the meal with them?
Just make a few less dishes. So prioritise family versus cooking more food than can be eaten. And if they so much want the whole menu, then someone will have to help, like in OP's own family.
Also, the more important part, who knows any family where a 2 year old is at risk of not eating during a family event? Because the people I know, the poor child is more at risk of being stuffed by all the family members fussing over them.
It is not OP's fault per se, but she and her DH need to do less cooking and more sitting. The same applies to those having issues with the Christmas dinner: simplify, so it is actually an enjoyable day, for all.

AnonymousJoyceLover · 03/04/2025 08:07

@MissScarletInTheBallroom thank you! At last someone who has not only read but also understood the op's post

Honestly, the sheer lack of comprehension shown repeatedly on this thread is astounding, whether deliberate or otherwise & I'm not sure which is more worrying & depressing..

WillVioletsDad · 03/04/2025 08:00

Have read through the first few pages of this in utter disbelief.

I think it would help if people mentally replace “Eid” with “Christmas Day” before composing their replies. Then we might not get “why did you have such a busy day where you visited his relatives in the afternoon and then had your’s over?” or “Why didn’t you just cook a simple meal or get a takeaway?” etc.

MushMonster · 03/04/2025 07:05

This thread is turning interesting!
The problem is that:

  1. You did too much
  2. You spent your whole time cooking, instead of treasuring family time. Because what is important is to spend tome with the family, not around the family
  3. The extent at which your priorities are messed up is such that you
a) your daughter did not eat till really late (while being surrounded by plenty of her close family) b) you are putting the "blame" on your DH driving his mother home, which is what any good son or daughter would do. That or invite them to stay the night.

You will say that this is expected of you as the reason. You cannot control what others expect of you, but you can control what you do. And you need to put your daughter first, your husband second and family actual bonding time third. Simplify the meal. Next time say to your husband that you love to host his family, you are looking forward and you are cooking X dish for them. They can take it or leave it or bring their own.