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Plummutum · 31/03/2025 23:58

Hi everyone, needs some advice,

so, basically, long story short - my DH’s spouse visa is about to expire in less than 48 hours and although we’d managed to save some money for his visa extension, there’s still a large chunk left for the IHS and we’ve exhausted every other avenue so I thought that the last option would be perhaps asking my mum. I really didn’t want to explore this option but we really don’t have a choice so I asked my mum (and they don’t have the most watertight son/mum-in-law relationship) but she reluctantly agreed on the basis that my husband asks her directly and formally agrees to pay her back for X amount of months. She wanted a formal arrangement because sometimes DH would forget to pay her back on the early days of our marriage. My husband is point blank refusing (he’s got a lot of pride) but I don’t think now’s the time to have pride as his visa depends on it. I really don’t want him to become an overstayer 😭 do you think he’s being unreasonable for refusing to speak to her directly? Or is my mum being unreasonable for wanting the request to come from him?

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mummymeister · 01/04/2025 15:21

@Plummutum how do you feel about him now owing a friend several thousand pounds? what is his plan to pay this back? this money treats the symptom not the disease though doesnt it. the question is how and why did you get to this place with 48hrs to go. No one is saying he is the devil. but my concern now would be how he is going to pay back this very kind friend who has bailed him out. are you happy for people outside of the family knowing this much information about your finances and about his lack of financial planning?

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 15:18

Digdongdoo · 01/04/2025 15:14

I'm glad it's all worked out for now OP. At least now you can work through any other issues without this hanging over you. These applications really can bring out the worst in us.
Sounds like he has some pretty stellar social capital, so he must have some redeeming qualities!
Plenty of people don't have a spare grand every year, so that's hardly unusual...

Thank you, I agree, this situation was very stressful for us both. I think it’s so easy for people to judge and make comments without actually knowing the full story. I think a lot of comments are more about how horrible of a person DH is as opposed to how things can be resolved - I was reading that a fee waiver could have been a last resort as that would have brought him more time even if his visa expires whilst he waits for the outcome. But instead, the comments are about him being deported etc. of course I know what he’s like, he’s not an angel, I’m sure none of us are perfect too. And yes, I’m being defensive of him, why’s that a bad thing? What happened to actually fighting for marriages? Yes, I know he left things last minute etc, but it’s the overall outcome that counts.

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alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 01/04/2025 15:18

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:17

She doesn’t live with us, but we’re quite close and I see her and my sisters regularly. However, he often has this sort of “stand-offish” attitude around them, it’s very hard to explain, it’s not that he’s actively doing anything wrong, it’s more a passive, kind of lack of warmth towards them. He’ll usually stay upstairs when they visit and there’s no exchange of pleasantries if that makes sense. Just a quick “hi, hi” and off he trots. This really hurts my mum’s feelings because she’s been so generous to us and she’s a people person so she doesn’t like being neglected in this way.

He should be damn grateful she's even offering to help. Twat.

Starlight7080 · 01/04/2025 15:16

Do you have kids together?
Isn't it a bit odd he got the money so quick?
Did he already have it ?
If he has good credit he could have got a loan . But that's still fast and I would worry about the interest if payday type loan

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/04/2025 15:14

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:24

Okay, yes maybe the way I wrote that makes him sound like a right bleep but it’s not always that way.

I'm thinking that when you say "not always", others would probably say 'quite often'.

Digdongdoo · 01/04/2025 15:14

I'm glad it's all worked out for now OP. At least now you can work through any other issues without this hanging over you. These applications really can bring out the worst in us.
Sounds like he has some pretty stellar social capital, so he must have some redeeming qualities!
Plenty of people don't have a spare grand every year, so that's hardly unusual...

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 15:13

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2025 15:09

Apologies if this has been asked before @Plummutum, but could he ask his parents for the money?

No worries, he’s an orphan.

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LucyEleanorModeratz · 01/04/2025 15:11

You're being rather defensive here @Plummutum, which is not unexpected as he's your husband and you've elected to commit to him for whatever reason.

Nonetheless, for those of us reading your thread updates from a third party, impartial perspective - there are a number of quite major red flags tied up in his behaviour. Please just have your wits about you going forwards. Best of luck.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2025 15:09

Apologies if this has been asked before @Plummutum, but could he ask his parents for the money?

StripyPanda · 01/04/2025 15:08

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 15:06

Well, I think misogynistic and chauvinistic is a bit harsh. Why do people like to throw these words around like it’s nothing these days ? For what it’s worth, one of the friends who helped him out is female.

i am not throwing out comments… this is exactly the image you have portrayed to us…
you just seem relieved that this little blip has gone away but trust me there will be hundreds more judging by the past… get him to pay your DM for a start if he can borrow money that easily 🤷‍♀️

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 15:08

Welshmonster · 01/04/2025 14:16

Does he want to be deported and divorce you?

do not enable him in overstaying as you could get in trouble as well.

I just had a look online on citizens advice page and if he doesn’t put his application in then he could be deported and never allowed back.

it would cost him more for lawyers. Plus if he is working as well then it could be illegal and lose his job.

tell him to ask your mum politely or book a flight to his home country as you can’t risk getting in trouble and leaving your home with no parent if you have kids.

He won’t be overstaying or breaking any immigration laws.

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Plummutum · 01/04/2025 15:06

StripyPanda · 01/04/2025 15:00

Yes I’m going to be alert from now on. But I think I can cut him some slack for trying at the last minute
@Plummutum
I somehow don’t believe that… he has just gone to ask for handouts yet you class this as ‘trying’ 🙈
How come he manages to ‘beg’ off non family members (probably male) yet this situation need never to have arisen if he had accepted your DM’s kind and acceptable offer…
I am convinced he doesn’t like women, he sounds like an intolerable misogynistic chauvinistic asshole… i bet if you had brothers he would make an effort.
Please be aware of how your children are brought up if this male influence is all they have to go on 😞

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Well, I think misogynistic and chauvinistic is a bit harsh. Why do people like to throw these words around like it’s nothing these days ? For what it’s worth, one of the friends who helped him out is female.

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StripyPanda · 01/04/2025 15:05

all of your excuses for his behaviour are irrelevant as he chose to leave this situation until the day before to fix… umm i mean beg

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 15:03

DearDenimEagle · 01/04/2025 14:59

Cut him some slack for trying last minute? No wonder you think he’s great. I’d be cutting him loose for leaving it till last minute and expecting everyone else to bail him out. A Prince among men …not

So, if he had not tried to raise the funds someone will say something negative, and if he raises the funds, questions point to where he raised it from and how he’s now owing friends? Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

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StripyPanda · 01/04/2025 15:00

Yes I’m going to be alert from now on. But I think I can cut him some slack for trying at the last minute
@Plummutum
I somehow don’t believe that… he has just gone to ask for handouts yet you class this as ‘trying’ 🙈
How come he manages to ‘beg’ off non family members (probably male) yet this situation need never to have arisen if he had accepted your DM’s kind and acceptable offer…
I am convinced he doesn’t like women, he sounds like an intolerable misogynistic chauvinistic asshole… i bet if you had brothers he would make an effort.
Please be aware of how your children are brought up if this male influence is all they have to go on 😞

safetyfreak · 01/04/2025 14:59

Its not fair there are people like your husband who trying to remain in the country legally, pay his fees etc yet, thousands are allowed to come here for free and stay.

DearDenimEagle · 01/04/2025 14:59

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 14:49

Yes I’m going to be alert from now on. But I think I can cut him some slack for trying at the last minute

Cut him some slack for trying last minute? No wonder you think he’s great. I’d be cutting him loose for leaving it till last minute and expecting everyone else to bail him out. A Prince among men …not

Meanwhile33 · 01/04/2025 14:58

I hope he now apologises to you and your mum for putting all that pressure and stress on you both, gets his shit together and starts to pay off his debts.

Bonbon249 · 01/04/2025 14:57

So he'd rather be deported than accept the terms of a loan from your mum? What an utter twat! Would he expect you to uproot yourself if he does get deported? To a country where you possibly don't speak the language and wouldn't be able to get a job? No thanks, time to shape up or ship out, chum!

DearDenimEagle · 01/04/2025 14:56

So despite saying you don’t want more debt, you were not only prepared to be in debt to mother, you’re now in debt to some pal. Well, your DH had better repay this guy because he will run out of friends PDQ.
My son went through the visa thing. I helped with costs of bringing her over but they did the rest themselves.
You don’t have a husband. You have an albatross round your neck. I wish you well, but you have a hard road ahead if this thread is anything to go by .

EuclidianGeometryFan · 01/04/2025 14:56

OK, let us assume he now gets his arse in gear and applies for the visa within the deadline.

Lets look at where does that leave you:

He borrowed from you DM before and has no intention of repaying her.

You and he have other debts - in whose name are these? Are they actually your debts or his?

And now he is borrowing from a friend - do you honestly think he will repay his friend, or will he just lose the friendship and trash his good name in that circle of people who know him?

Can you see that he is dragging you down. You need to make plans to extricate yourself from this financial mess.

Do you have your own current account as well as a joint account?
Do you keep track of what each of you contribute to the household and children, and what each of you has for 'personal' money? (The easiest way to do this is to have a joint account for house and children, into which you both pay an agreed amount, and each have personal current accounts for 'pocket money').

What are the plans for paying off the existing debts? Who is paying them? Were they for household and childcare costs, or personal debts?
Did he let you run up debts for essential household costs because he was not paying into the joint account enough from his wages?

As a married couple, your finances are legally linked, but you can still set some boundaries around his behaviour by using joint and personal accounts and insisting on a fair system for managing your finances.

MummaMummaMumma · 01/04/2025 14:55

He is being pathetic.
And no, why should you be on his side when he is in the wrong?
You mum is not been unreasonable, husband is.

wizzywig · 01/04/2025 14:51

Is he from a male dominant country?

starfishmummy · 01/04/2025 14:50

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 13:06

Yes, there’s a lot involved and it’s not as straightforward as people think.

It may not be straightforward BUT he has known from the moment the visa was granted thst it woukd have an end date and seems to have done nothing to prepare for that at all!

I think he wants to go "home", maybe he's not even admitting that to himself let alone to you, but his lack of action is speaking volumes

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 14:49

Mumof3confused · 01/04/2025 14:47

  1. he’s turning it in you/your mum being unreasonable and making you feel guilty. This is so that he can avoid accountability and responsibility. He is not a victim!
  2. He’s heard WHAT from WHOM? Did this person just overhear your mum talking to someone about the facts of his behaviour - he stays upstairs and avoids your family? He makes it awkward for hour family to visit or have a close relationship with you. I’m sorry but this is a classic abuse tactic.
  3. He has now managed to raise the funds. From where? Was he able to put his hands all along but creates this drama to cause a rift and test your/your mum’s boundaries?

Keep your eyes wide open.

Yes I’m going to be alert from now on. But I think I can cut him some slack for trying at the last minute

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