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Don’t know what to do🫨🤯

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Plummutum · 31/03/2025 23:58

Hi everyone, needs some advice,

so, basically, long story short - my DH’s spouse visa is about to expire in less than 48 hours and although we’d managed to save some money for his visa extension, there’s still a large chunk left for the IHS and we’ve exhausted every other avenue so I thought that the last option would be perhaps asking my mum. I really didn’t want to explore this option but we really don’t have a choice so I asked my mum (and they don’t have the most watertight son/mum-in-law relationship) but she reluctantly agreed on the basis that my husband asks her directly and formally agrees to pay her back for X amount of months. She wanted a formal arrangement because sometimes DH would forget to pay her back on the early days of our marriage. My husband is point blank refusing (he’s got a lot of pride) but I don’t think now’s the time to have pride as his visa depends on it. I really don’t want him to become an overstayer 😭 do you think he’s being unreasonable for refusing to speak to her directly? Or is my mum being unreasonable for wanting the request to come from him?

OP posts:
Plummutum · 01/04/2025 08:56

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/04/2025 06:25

@Notsosure1 posted: Why do you love him? How did you meet? When did he propose? How long before kids?

I think many of us would like to know the answer to these questions.

We understand each other and have built a happy home, we met at uni, he proposed about 1.5 years into the relationship

OP posts:
Nousernamesleftatall · 01/04/2025 08:56

Does he work?

Stravaig · 01/04/2025 08:53

Well OP, it looks like you're going to have the taxpayers foot the bill for removing the useless arse you chose to marry and have kids with. As if we didn't have enough to deal with. FFS.

Grow up, both of you, and take responsibility for your own poor choices.

SpringIsSpringing25 · 01/04/2025 08:51

Dear God wake up and take those rose tinted specs off. Stop making excuses for this grown man who has not prioritised his children at all let alone you.

Any decent man would've moved Helen and I Water to make sure he could stay here for his children yours won't even respectfully ask your mum to lend him even more money and expects you to do it for him.

Stop saying it's complicated and making excuses for him. He's just wasting the oxygen he's using.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 01/04/2025 08:40

The more you post about him, the worse he sounds.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 01/04/2025 08:34

Apologies if this is an obvious thing, but what happens when a person overstays? (Forgive me but I don't live in the UK) I presume they can no longer get employed or claim any benefits. Does it automatically send off some sort of alert to authorities and the person immediately gets deported or do they just stay unofficially and get away with it. Does your DH truly understand the system and consequences?

BleachedJumper · 01/04/2025 08:32

Do you know if he comes from a country that follows The Hague convention?

If you don’t, make it a priority to find out.

WaryCrow · 01/04/2025 08:31

You sound slightly out of it op. I’d say visa expiry is a major problem. Either he sorts it or your life together here is over. Make damn sure you protect the kids.

Annettecurtaintwitcher · 01/04/2025 08:30

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:11

Yes thanks, I agree my mum is wonderful, she’s putting up with so much rubbish from him half the time sighs

Why are you with him? He sounds like a twat.

BlondeMummyto1 · 01/04/2025 08:29

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:05

Well, I understand, but what am I supposed to do? Just abandon him and let his visa expire? It’s tough because I know he’s in the wrong

That’s exactly what you should do. What would you do without your mums help?

BlondeMummyto1 · 01/04/2025 08:27

If he would rather be an overstayer then so be it.

Your mum shouldn’t have to bail you out. You’ve known it was coming.

kweenkweenie · 01/04/2025 08:27

Isthiswhatmenthink · 01/04/2025 08:19

Jesus this thread is annoying.

He’s a selfish cunt OP. I too think you’re being supremely naive, unfortunately

I think all the crying emojis proves that.

Theredjellybean · 01/04/2025 08:24

He hasn't done his best .. he's done sweet FA.
He has not saved or worked for the money HE knew He would need.
He won't ask your DM
He isn't bothered or stressed about the fact he's going to be deported, leaving his wife to cope with their young children alone.
He is bothered that he won't see his children.

Honestly OP....I am raging ...grow a bloody backbone...tell him you've done your best and it's up to him to sort it out. Why are you solely responsible for sorting this out for him...he's an adult.

I think he believes you will all roll over and hand over the money because he's THE MAN...and he's the most important.

I really do not understand why you're not furious with him.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 01/04/2025 08:19

Jesus this thread is annoying.

He’s a selfish cunt OP. I too think you’re being supremely naive, unfortunately

kweenkweenie · 01/04/2025 08:19

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:05

Well, I understand, but what am I supposed to do? Just abandon him and let his visa expire? It’s tough because I know he’s in the wrong

Yes. He sounds like an idiot. So do you for involving your own mum, when he hasn’t paid her back earlier.

Avatartar · 01/04/2025 08:17

Sorry OP you’re bing the idiot in this, let him go/ be kicked out for not having a Visa, he’s orchestrated this

Codlingmoths · 01/04/2025 08:17

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 00:23

Well, this visa situation is just a tiny drop in the ocean of our entire marriage, it’s not a reflection of his true nature - it’s just a tricky situation we’ve found ourselves in.

You haven’t randomly found yourself here by sheer chance. You’re here because of your dhs past and current behaviour, and he could change the current behaviour. I’d google can I get divorced if my husband is out of the country and send the answer to him, because if he got deported for being an idiot then it’s all over isn’t it?

Wildhorses111 · 01/04/2025 08:14

I'm not sure that it is misplaced pride here, although that is the most charitable explanation.

I suspect that he doesn't want to have to pay the money back. And thinks that if he doesn't talk to your mum or sign anything then it isn't his responsibility. And that either you'll pay it back or she'll treat it as a gift eventually. But that if he shakes her hand and signs the agreement he'll be obliged to.

BigBurrata · 01/04/2025 08:11

For £2.5k, can’t he get a bank loan, or put it on a credit card or something?

ChristmasFluff · 01/04/2025 08:11

You and your mother have already provided him with a solution he is not willing to take. It's now his problem to sort out.

I wouldn't give it one more moment of thought. His actions have consequences for him, and yes, they will affect you (I also strongly suggest hiding your children's passports, as per previous posters), but that's HIS choice (which shows how much thought he gives to you and his children) and there's no reason for you to involve yourself in this further.

Sometimes life does us huge favours disguised as misfortune.

TheObligingSwan · 01/04/2025 08:08

One day OP will wake up and see this freeloader for what he is - entitled, arrogant and ignorant - but she's obviously not there yet. If he's such a "proud" man, his pride would have insisted he paid his MIL back previously, but no, not that proud is he? His pride would make him draw up a repayment agreement and insist on keeping to it. His ego is driving his appalling behaviour, not pride.

Depressingly, he knows MIL's love for her daughter and grandchildren mean she will eventually crumble and hand over the 2.5k, and everyone knows he'll never pay it back. I so hope she stands her ground for all their sakes, and this bum gets deported.

OP how can you respect a man like this. How can you accept how rude (and blatantly misogynistic) he is? Does he even work? He said he's done "all he can" to resolve this - does this involve more effort than asking you to ask your mum? I think we all know the answer.

Your poor mum. She must be so worried about you OP. I have adult daughters and I'd be desperately sad and worried if either of them were involved with such a specimen.

moveoveralice · 01/04/2025 08:06

Andreser · 01/04/2025 07:54

@moveoveralice there's no need to be so judgemental. People deal with things and express themselves in different ways and OP has already flagged that she's more worried and less flippant than she sounds. Why waste your time with a reply that's more about making yourself feel big than helping someone else? Why not just go achieve something to actually be proud of for your ego boost?

Why not just go achieve something to actually be proud of for your ego boost?

Gosh what a task I have before me. Shall put it at the top of my to do list.

AuntAgathaGregson · 01/04/2025 08:05

Plummutum · 01/04/2025 01:51

But why does it have to end that way?

You need to ask your husband the answer to that, as he is the.only person who knows the answer.

Laststraw25 · 01/04/2025 08:04

Quite frankly I feel sorry for your mother and especially for your poor children caught up in the middle of all of this op.

Your mother is probably ripping her hair out.

You seem to be completely clueless as to what you have got into with this free loader, you have had children with a man that is so useless he can’t even save enough money to pay for his own visa much less support young children properly.

You haven’t even understood the gravity of your situation and the possibility of losing your children, nor understood the fact he is trying to financially abuse and disrespect your own family. You call it ‘tricky’ but this is an enormous problem you have got yourself into.

For gods sake, wake up and grow up.

You have young children you can not afford to be this naive and ignorant. Your dh is willfully causing you and your family great harm, he does not care about you or them. You are vulnerable to a really bad outcome, and it will be even worse for your children.

Put a stop to all of this before it is too late.

BumbleBeegu · 01/04/2025 08:04

OP…you need to swap out the word ‘pride’ and replace it with ‘toxic male arrogance’. This is what it is. A proud person pays his debts and will always want to be seen in ‘his best light’. Your DH, on the other hand, is displaying toxic masculinity…this is not a desirable trait.