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I called him a f**king tramp. DH overheard and is now furious

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ionlysaidone1 · 31/03/2025 19:50

Aibu?

DHs older son is 14. He doesn't treat the house with any respect when he's here and I understand that can just be teens so I try so hard to bite my tongue.

But one thing I cannot stand is the state of the toilet whenever he's here. He will literally piss all over it, down the back of the toilet, sometimes it's on the floor etc..

I have tried REPEATEDLY to bring this up with DH who minimises completely saying it's not that bad, only takes two seconds to clean up, I'm exaggerating, it's not his son despite it only happening when he's here obviously.

I have taken to shouting DSS in every time I notice it and making him clean the toilet but it's still happening. He's revolting.

Anyway, tonight I came to use the bathroom after SS and lo and behold the seat is a mess again, piss in the back between the cistern and toilet seat. I was so annoyed that I just went WHAT A FUCKING TRAMP! And then shouted SS to get in there and clean it up.

SS didn't hear the tramp comment but DH did and now he's furious.

I've apologised for calling SS a tramp

but said I won't apologise for being angry at this happening AGAIN.

H thinks I've committed some cardinal sin calling his son a tramp but honestly, if the shoe fits! If he doesn't like it he should do more to get through to his son.

I'm so over this situation it's disgusting.

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WhoMeMissYesYouMiss · 31/03/2025 22:19

There is this weird thing on MN where step parents (usually stepmothers) are not allowed to hold their stepchild(ren) to account when the biological parent (usually fathers) does not parent the child(dren).

Pissing all over the toilet and floor is not acceptable at 14. I bet he doesn't do that when he is at a mates home.

It takes a village to raise a child/children and step parents are part of that.

TheHerboriste · 31/03/2025 22:18

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People who are fucking tired of the disrespect, entitlement, laziness and filthiness of so many men, that's who.

I'd seriously be taking photos of the piss and plastering them anywhere his friends might be seeing. And I'd also buy a packet of adult diapers and leave them on his bed.

He won't be clean out of the respect for the home he's provided with, but maybe he'll improve to avoid humilation. He doesn't seem to have a problem humiliating the OP by making her feel she's not worth a clean toilet seat.

I take no bullshit any more from anyone and I suggest the OP adopt the same attitude.

nocoolnamesleft · 31/03/2025 22:17

Pissing all round the loo then not even cleaning it up has no place in the bathroom. Well, not if the malefactor is older than about 4.

Redmat · 31/03/2025 22:17

He should clear up but he needs to be medically checked as well. Make a doctors appointment for him.

keswickgirl · 31/03/2025 22:14

The misandry is strong here tonight.

To be clear, I do not condone peeing on and around the toilet.

But the extreme language and discourse on here about “filthy male behaviour” etc lead me to believe that there are posters around who are interested in stoking a war of the sexes on Mumsnet, as in other online spaces.

This is not the language of parents. This is not the attitude of people who have the best interests of children at heart. This hateful bile has no place on Mumsnet.

Catwoman8 · 31/03/2025 22:10

This thread has brought back memories of that video on youtube where the angry Scottish woman shouts at her kids using profanities and them being DISGUSTING for not flushing the loo , and it was all recorded unbeknown to her. Does anyone remember it? 🤣

Fraaances · 31/03/2025 22:08

Time to get DH cleaning up his son’s urine. See how he likes it and if he will get off his entitled bum and parent his kid.

Obvnotthegolden · 31/03/2025 22:08

It's disgusting having to clean up someone's piss before being able to use your own loo.

I find it bad enough when it's my own D's let alone someone else's.

I know pp saying you shouldn't have called him names but I don't think those pp have had to repeatedly deal with cleaning up wee like this.

Op's DH is treating op like a live in cleaner and not respecting her at all, and in then the ss is also not respecting op.

Call in DH every single time to clean it up.

DorothyStorm · 31/03/2025 22:07

Pumpkinspice13 · 31/03/2025 22:02

Agreed! It’s lazy and filthy but I’d be taking him to get it checked!! Lazy parenting seems to be happening to.

This. Tell him it is disrespectful to leave it like that. What consequences does he have for poor behaviour. Implement them. Tell dh to tell the ss each time too and to watch him clean it properly. Inconvenience him.

CroissantOfFur · 31/03/2025 22:04

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If the child is made to clean it up, no harm done. Impaired or not. The issue isn't making a mess, it's the refusal to clean it up. If he has the use of his limbs and eyesight of course he can clean it up.

Pumpkinspice13 · 31/03/2025 22:02

CroissantOfFur · 31/03/2025 21:54

It could well be a medical issue causing the spray. But that wouldn't stop him from cleaning up afterwards!

Agreed! It’s lazy and filthy but I’d be taking him to get it checked!! Lazy parenting seems to be happening to.

iseenyouwithkefir · 31/03/2025 21:59

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Starbri8 · 31/03/2025 21:59

Viviennemary · 31/03/2025 20:16

Your language is a disgrace. That needs to be cleaned up for a start.

don't get your bloomers in a twist , her language was quite reserved , I’d have turned the air blue and presented the little shite with a potty, and told him until he could learn to be a big boy this is what he’d be using. Hubby would be presented with a bottle of bleach and told crack on…

BBT213 · 31/03/2025 21:57

keswickgirl · 31/03/2025 21:48

But we are not talking about Women versus “Males”. We’re talking about a child.

Urgh. There are weird people on Mumsnet tonight.

Too right there are, and we ARE talking about women versus men unless op is going to dripfeed that her partner is female

Her partner backs up his son. And says OP is wrong , not for yelling "tramp"(dirty kid didn't even hear) but for SAYING it.

Excusing vile, filthy male behaviour is not a good look @keswickgirl but crack on if this standard is what you'll accept.

CroissantOfFur · 31/03/2025 21:56

The sad thing is it seems that the partner isn't on the same page as regarding disciplining the boy. Which isn't good for the relationship. Partner needs to come down heavy when he sees you being disrespected like this by the SS.

RickiRaccoon · 31/03/2025 21:55

I don't have much issue with the term 'tramp' being applied to someone peeing in inappropriate places. You didn't say it 'at' him, you said it about him in a moment of anger and it's sort of true.

I wouldn't back down from being angry. Peeing on the floor is filthy. It stinks. If he can't manage to aim, he needs to sit down. It's horrible that you're expected to put up with pee on your floor repeatedly and not to be annoyed about it. I'd agree that, if DH isn't worried about cleaning it up, he can clean it every time -- but at the same time you've still got pee regularly appearing on your floor.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 31/03/2025 21:55

Sofiewoo · 31/03/2025 20:05

Did I say that?
Children will do all sorts of things don’t agree with or don’t like, from not listening, being messy, staying out past a curfew, the answer is not to scream that they are a “fucking tramp. It’s utterly mental that people think that’s an acceptable way for an adult to speak to a 14 year old. It’s abusive.

And you don't think pissing all over her toilet and leaving her to clean up after him is abusive too?

I think they OP is at the of her tether here and a 14 year old should do better!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 31/03/2025 21:54

I’d never call anyone that. Have some self control and learn how to give feedback so that people actually listen to you.

Nanny0gg · 31/03/2025 21:54

keswickgirl · 31/03/2025 21:26

Dear me.

You are not unreasonable to be upset.

You are very unreasonable to call him a fucking tramp.

To be cross is one thing. To be openly contemptuous and hostile is quite another.

You say “He’s disgusting”. Not the piss on the floor, not the disregard for your home, HE is disgusting. And a tramp. You clearly dislike him deeply.

I wouldn’t allow my child to be spoken about like that in his own home, no matter what he had done. If I were your partner I’d be packing my bags.

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But he IS disgusting

Wonder if he does this at his mother's

Or his friend's

He needs to be trained to sit down

CroissantOfFur · 31/03/2025 21:54

Pumpkinspice13 · 31/03/2025 21:51

Had his dad thought to check with his child’s doctor that there is not a medical reason for it spraying everywhere? If it happens every time I would think something may be causing it.

It could well be a medical issue causing the spray. But that wouldn't stop him from cleaning up afterwards!

Elunajeya · 31/03/2025 21:54

Pumpkinspice13 · 31/03/2025 21:51

Had his dad thought to check with his child’s doctor that there is not a medical reason for it spraying everywhere? If it happens every time I would think something may be causing it.

There’s no medical issue stopping him cleaning it up.

AngelicKaty · 31/03/2025 21:53

Pumpkinspice13 · 31/03/2025 21:51

Had his dad thought to check with his child’s doctor that there is not a medical reason for it spraying everywhere? If it happens every time I would think something may be causing it.

Me too. And my diagnosis would be the little pisser doesn't give a sh1t! 🙄

Pumpkinspice13 · 31/03/2025 21:51

Had his dad thought to check with his child’s doctor that there is not a medical reason for it spraying everywhere? If it happens every time I would think something may be causing it.

Nanny0gg · 31/03/2025 21:50

SuspiciousChipmunk · 31/03/2025 20:27

My husband would be out the door if he called any of my children a fucking tramp. I can’t believe he’s putting up with you!

If he takes his son with him she'll at least have a clean toilet

cranberryshortcake · 31/03/2025 21:50

Ilovelurchers · 31/03/2025 19:57

What do you want your husband to think, if you speak to his child like that?

But if you seriously think you are fully justified, crack on.

You are fully justified.

If you have more than one toilet, buy a sign for one to be female and one male and let them crack on.

If SS uses the wrong toilet, then in addition to calling him to clean it up, which clearly isn’t enough to stop him doing it, fine SS. Take it from his pocket money.