To wonder where these kids are meant to go?!

Many children with sen cannot access the curriculum, especially at secondary school. This is one of the fundamental problems. Michael Gove was the last secretary of state to change the curriculum - he was focused on raising our maths and English to compete with China but his reforms did nothing for the children who are nowhere near that level.

As a result, local authorities have all these kids they can't place in mainstream. And they can't suddenly build loads of new schools. My LA is actually building a new secondary for kids with autism but that's unusual and until it is ready, they still have to use independent schools.

Remember the transport issue too. You can't easily send children miles away unless you fund their transport and that can be as expensive as the school fees.

Oh but I bet they did think it out! Much like they expect the disabled to either get a job or wither away and expire when they stop their benefits either way the economy benefits . I think they see SEN dc as a drain on resources too - I think it was yesterday I saw an article about the huge cost of SEN to local authorities. I can see cuts there next and what do they think will happen that suddenly all these children will just change ???? They seem to be going after every vulnerable group in order to offset their spending elsewhere. Wouldn’t surprise me if to offset the Trump tariffs they decided to make cuts to ICU beds and the emergency services to save money somewhere ! The colour may be red but they identify as blue !

Schools do manage this which means expertise and best practise needs to be shared .

I don’t think some want the system to cater for more in main streams. They want their kids to receive a private education via the state and don’t give a shit as to the impact on the majority.

@TesterP0t my god if there was a child behaving in a way like that disruptive dangerous violent etc in my child’s lesson I would go ballistic not fair on the child and not fair on the other children it’s inadequate all round. Your school sounds amazing sadly most others not so much

Exactly @CrispieCake. There are already parents of DC without SEN who post things like their child needs a school with a low SEN intake. Add in more DC, with more complex SEN for whom MS is not appropriate and it makes for an even less inclusive environment.

@TesterP0t and many children and young people do not manage successfully in state schools. It is why they have an independent school named in the first place.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/657995f0254aaa000d050bff/Arranging_education_for_children_who_cannot_attend_school_because_of_health_needs.pdf

The current system is shit and needs to change.

And many don't and no one learns anything and the children are subjected regularly to the unedifying spectacle of vulnerable, overwhelmed classmates being restrained and removed from an environment they can't cope in.

WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT CANT?

Ok so HOW do you fix it? This isn’t about arsehole grabby parents, so what do you think is the answer?

Many schools manage children like this successfully.

Neither is having children in mainstream who are incapable of coping and disrupt the class to the extent that the teaching staff can't ensure their safety and welfare or the safety and welfare of the other children.

@TesterP0t state schools and independent special schools cannot cater for all DC with SEN. Removing other options won’t see a reduction in costs. Costs will actually rise. There will be an increase in expensive EOTAS/EOTIS (with or without the C on the end) packages. LAs do not like expensive EOTAS/EOTIS packages. They like them even less than independent school placements. They aren’t the easy or cheap option. Some EOTAS/EOTIS packages cost a lot more than school placements.

@TesterP0t why are you backing this woefully inadequate government they are SHIT

It is not sustainable!!!!!!

@TesterP0t that already happens to an extent via units/bases/cabins/provisions within MS. It isn’t suitable for all and never will be regardless of what support is put in place. And not all DC unable to be taught in state schools have autism.

Op they will have to find your dc a place though?

Does their documentation say they have to go in non mainstream?

They can’t just leave you without a place, surely

Looking at provision like this for a start

“suspect there'll be a shift towards providing "autism friendly" classes in state schools.”

What kind of sector do you work in that a huge hike in taxes and costs wouldn’t damage it?

And yet legally they must. So then what? I keep asking you but you don’t reply.

with a rapidly declining birth rate, state school places isn’t a huge concern in lots of areas. I live in the South East in a popular area and 3 out of 4 local primaries (all good or excellent ofsted rating) have spaces in my kids year. The reception class this year I my kids school had 20 kids in a class big enough for 30.

Im sorry you’re in a tricky situation and I really do hope you find a suitable resolution.

I can't even dignify this with a reply

Then the LA needs to do that for every child- except they can’t.

There’s no school that’s closed that wasn’t in huge financial trouble.
theyre businesses, and if they can’t get enough paying customers then they aren’t viable.