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Echolalia in toddler

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Ladybug1235 · 31/03/2025 13:33

My little girl just turned 26 months and she can do the following :

  1. Expressive language : Has over 200 words and speaks in 2/3 sometimes 4 word sentences including connectors , adjective and verbs like “ bunny sitting on the train “
  2. Good receptive language with two step instructions at all times and she listens and responds to other members of the family .
  3. She is Social to some extent but it takes a while to warm her up and then she interacts well with adults and her peers ( although she still wants me close by ) She engages with kids if it is 1/1 interaction like playing with ball or on the beach but if there are lots of kids she just looks at them / what they are doing .
  4. She eats and sleeps like a champ so far all 12 hours and all type of food apart from scrambled eggs 🍳
  5. She can answer questions like (?what/where /who’s , what is mommy/daddy doing ? What color is dolly ? Where does the hat go ? What do you want ?
  6. Asks questions like / what’s that . What happened and what’s the sound , why are you sad / scared etc
  7. She can easily transition from her house to a new one without problems and she is not repetitive in any way apart from when she goes on the swing at the park and doesn’t want to get off to try other things 😅.
  8. Tantrum wise she is fairly good at self soothing and her tantrums don’t last more than 5 minutes .

She still tends to repeat almost verbatim what we say “ the entire phrase and I know that immediate echolalia is a ref flag and someone suggested GLP

Like when she wakes up from nap : she started saying “ it is empty “ referring to a box in her room because I told her that it was empty a while back . I know it is not typical and I wish I knew how to help her

She still makes requests with single words at times but I was told not to be overly concerned about that as long as there is combination of words into phrases.

Ps no one seems to be concerned

OP posts:
ToDuk · 01/04/2025 07:56

On your last thread I gave you a link to look at. Did you try that?

Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:55

Yea I have gone down the route and have asked for a paediatrician referral which was not accepted based on the signs I have provided

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Dramatic · 01/04/2025 07:55

Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:09

responds with yes or no questions like that . For reference I know she is on the spectrum . She never scripts or repeat tv shows .. so in your case echolalia never went away ?

If you know she's on the spectrum why did you post this?

Surferosa · 01/04/2025 07:54

Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:23

I appreciate it is easy to come across intense through a screen and I am sorry but I am worried as she doesn’t sound like her peers

She sounds exactly like most 2 year olds I know. You've posted on almost every thread about the fact your daughter can't answer an open ended question despite being told by almost everyone that a 2 year old can't process these type of questions. When will you accept actually accept this advice?

And to be blunt you do sound intense. You post thread after thread after thread with lists of completely normal toddler behaviour with no real indication of what the problem is. You don't seem to take on board any advice from professionals or posters with experience and then you'll come back with another thread where you go on about another non issue and where you've already diagnosed your child has having adhd/autism without any real understanding or knowledge on your part about these conditions and with no evidence to point to your daughter having these conditions.

I have full sympathy with pnd and anxiety. I had it myself severely and its very debilitating. However what concerns me is that these threads speak more about your state of mind than anything wrong with your daughter. You don't seem to have done anything about seeking help for these anxieties or have any self awareness of how this obsession of self diagnosing your daughter will impact her going forward and impact on her own self esteem and relationship with yourself.

No one is going to give you the answers you need because you seem stuck in this cycle of thinking there's a problem and constantly trying to get validation for your obsessive thinking.

autisticbookworm · 01/04/2025 07:50

If you are concerned ask your hv to
revier your child and it a referral in to speech and language but tbh everything you described sounds normal.

Lougle · 01/04/2025 07:44

Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:12

Hi I appreciate your words but as you can read from other posts , she sounds that she might be autistic

I don't think that is clear at all.

I have 3 children with ASD. DD1 was given a 'language delay' tag by the SaLT when she was 3, although she actually had a (severe) language disorder, which was finally properly diagnosed at 15.

DD1 would refer to herself in the 3rd person, and describe items rather than naming them. So, she would say 'DD1 want bowl eat' (hungry), 'it pink and it go weeeee' (I want to go on the slide), 'chicken with handle' (satay stick).

But there were so many other things going on for DD1 - attention span of less than 30 seconds, no sense of danger, ataxic gait, developmental deadly, then learning disability, sensory difficulties... It really was obvious that her path was not conventional. It took until she was 15 for an ASD diagnosis to be added to her list of issues, because it was such a complicated picture.

DD2 was not picked up as having a language disorder, but she did have one. She would say things like 'when will my legs grow like tree legs grow?' and even now she completely misinterprets what is being said, often. Again, she had fairly obvious signs that something wasn't right. She didn't cope with mainstream school despite being fairly average intelligence. Now, at almost 18, she still can't tell her teachers if something is wrong, despite being in a school where all the students get 1:1 provision.

DD3 actually seemed fairly typical in language until her early teenage years, when everything got more complicated. Now she struggles because she's so literal.

I genuinely don't think worrying is going to help you. If your DD has ASD, other signs will become apparent. Nobody can tell you that she doesn't, for sure, but the reality is that she's doing really well.

If she has ASD, there will be far more signs. Just try to enjoy her.

autisticbookworm · 01/04/2025 07:34

So my son is autistic this was our experience of language -

no babbling at all (as a baby)
at your dd age he could say juice, peppa, mama, nanna (banana) only
he couldn’t follow instructions
he had horrific meltdowns that would last hours
he completely ignored other children

He developed echolalia as a form of
communication when he was around 3. So I might say “it is hot today” and he would rely “hot today “ about from about 20 key words he did this exclusively. There was no meaning behind it i could have said on a boiling hot day it is cold today and he would reply cold today.
He used 2/3 words sentences until he was around 6 when his language skills developed. Even now at ten he will often say what he thinks is appropriate without the understanding behind it. He doesn’t understand emotions, takes conversation literally. It’s very obviously different to other children his age.

ToDuk · 01/04/2025 07:24

Ladybug1235 · 31/03/2025 17:18

Iit is mainly when i ask her open ended questions like ‘ what do you want or what are you doing ?” That she doesn’t answer

So give her a choice so you're modeling answers. Say "what do you want?" Then say "do you want strawberry ice-cream or chocolate ice-cream?" That way she has to choose one out of two options rather than being left with a wide open field.

I'm still not clear on why you think she uses echolalia though. Can you give a clear example?

Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:23

Fullcircle90 · 01/04/2025 07:13

Kindly OP you sounds really intense. This post reads more like a worrying reflection of your mental health than it does any concerns about your daughter

I appreciate it is easy to come across intense through a screen and I am sorry but I am worried as she doesn’t sound like her peers

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Fullcircle90 · 01/04/2025 07:13

Kindly OP you sounds really intense. This post reads more like a worrying reflection of your mental health than it does any concerns about your daughter

Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:12

Surferosa · 31/03/2025 20:15

I knew instantly from the title thread who the poster would be. I don't know why the OP keeps posting these threads. She's already decided her daughter is autistic despite absolutely nothing pointing towards it and having been told by countless professionals and posters her child is developing normally.

I feel desperately sorry for your child OP. It must be an incredibly hard and isolating for them to have a parent who obsesses over everything, tries to create issues where there isn't any and is determined to not listen to any advice both personally and professionally and instead continue down this of self diagnosing your daughter and picking faults with her. It won't end well for her and I forsee her having mental health problems and a strained relationship with yourself if you don't back off, listen to advice and actually just let your child be.

I suspect as usual you'll ignore all advice, continue to post on threads from decades ago and continue to post about completely non issues.

Hi I appreciate your words but as you can read from other posts , she sounds that she might be autistic

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Ladybug1235 · 01/04/2025 07:09

rhubarb007 · 31/03/2025 21:51

My eldest was like this and ended up autistic.
He was precocious in way he spoke very early on, using words like ridiculous well before 2yo.

When you say echolalia, do you mean something like this:
You say: should we go for a walk?
Child says: should we go for a walk? (Rather than saying yes/no)

OR

Do you mean she repeats phrases she hears on TV for example and if so, does she use them in a right context?

Edited

responds with yes or no questions like that . For reference I know she is on the spectrum . She never scripts or repeat tv shows .. so in your case echolalia never went away ?

OP posts:
rhubarb007 · 31/03/2025 21:51

My eldest was like this and ended up autistic.
He was precocious in way he spoke very early on, using words like ridiculous well before 2yo.

When you say echolalia, do you mean something like this:
You say: should we go for a walk?
Child says: should we go for a walk? (Rather than saying yes/no)

OR

Do you mean she repeats phrases she hears on TV for example and if so, does she use them in a right context?

2men3eyebrows · 31/03/2025 21:38

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hazelnutvanillalatte · 31/03/2025 21:35

Do you have OCD/anxiety? It can get a lot worse after having children. Your DD sounds completely fine

Jabberwok · 31/03/2025 21:28

If you Google echolalia, it is a completely normal thing for kids to do. I bet she also stops half way through talking and stares at nothing, will get fixated over doing the same thing over and over or having the same story...I worked for a couple with. 2 year old who did everything you said and more. She used to like to come and talk to me when I worked.
She's now 11 and got a full scholarship to the best school in the area.

CraneBeak · 31/03/2025 21:19

OP she's two! This is how children learn to talk.

viques · 31/03/2025 21:02

Ladybug1235 · 31/03/2025 17:18

Iit is mainly when i ask her open ended questions like ‘ what do you want or what are you doing ?” That she doesn’t answer

Then give her choices “ Do you want jam or peanut butter on your bread.”

Or just comment on her activity, “ Oh, you’re giving Teddy a cup of tea with your tea set, I think he’s enjoying it. Is he going to have a piece of cake as well I wonder.”

Calamitousness · 31/03/2025 21:01

Posting on here with what you have detailed, no one is going to say that they can see the concern. It’s how you’ve decided to share any worries. You’re trying to present your dc in a way you’ll be reassured. It’s really normal to do that and I’ve seen so many mums do the same. Dads and other family members will currently be telling you there’s nothing to worry about. Because you know your child better than them, they’ll not see it yet. Honestly though, if this is crossing your mind that there’s something not quite right and you can’t put your finger on it, you are most likely right. Time will tell, but I will say please don’t worry. She will just be whomever she is going to be. A diagnosis won’t change who she is. So just love your child and you’ll know when you might need to get some support for her so she can achieve her potential.

viques · 31/03/2025 20:56

She sounds fine. Let her enjoy exploring her world and building relationships.

Surferosa · 31/03/2025 20:53

Ladybug1235 · 31/03/2025 17:55

Everyone seems to think that early therapy does help but i don’t have access to it given that everybody thinks there’s nothing wrong and wait and see approach . I was wondering to bump into a mum who has had the same experience as me

What same experience would that be? You've been told here that your child is developing normally by parents who have children follow the same development pattern you have posted. And the parents who do have children with autism have told you, you nothing to be concerned about.

What are you hoping to achieve?

Zeitumschaltung · 31/03/2025 20:50

If you care about your daughter at all, please get help for your mental health

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 31/03/2025 20:35

My dd was diagnosed ASD at 16.

Only signs when little were walking on knees and wanting hands washed often. And refusing to wear long sleeves.

Excellemt language development, can’t remember exholalia. Think she repeated the odd thing, but they all do.

Mooselooseinmyhoose · 31/03/2025 20:28

Echolalia is.. by countless clinical studies.. developmentally normal for all toddlers. At 26 months she is doing everything she is meant to be.

Why do you "know in your heart" that she's autistic?

Even a quick Google should reassure you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/tiny-happy-people/articles/z9p4jfr

Echolalia in children: Everything you need to know

Claire Smith from Speech and Language UK lets us know all about echolalia, where children repeat things they hear, and when your child might need extra support.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/tiny-happy-people/articles/z9p4jfr

Surferosa · 31/03/2025 20:15

faerietales · 31/03/2025 18:42

What are you getting out of posting these threads constantly?

Your daughter sounds normal. Which you've been told hundreds of times.

You need to go and get yourself some help with your mental health before you really do some damage.

I knew instantly from the title thread who the poster would be. I don't know why the OP keeps posting these threads. She's already decided her daughter is autistic despite absolutely nothing pointing towards it and having been told by countless professionals and posters her child is developing normally.

I feel desperately sorry for your child OP. It must be an incredibly hard and isolating for them to have a parent who obsesses over everything, tries to create issues where there isn't any and is determined to not listen to any advice both personally and professionally and instead continue down this of self diagnosing your daughter and picking faults with her. It won't end well for her and I forsee her having mental health problems and a strained relationship with yourself if you don't back off, listen to advice and actually just let your child be.

I suspect as usual you'll ignore all advice, continue to post on threads from decades ago and continue to post about completely non issues.