Echolalia in toddler

Looking at the other posts, OP reminds me much more of a friend who had a psychotic break focused on a false belief that her children had been exposed to asbestos. I hope there’s another parent in the picture.

I've reported as I'm really worried about the child behind this, and the posts are feeding the obsession. Mumsnet I guess don't see the problem 😕... really concerning tbh

Munchausen by proxy involves making up symptoms or even the doing something to cause them, it doesn’t sound like the OP is doing that. The stuff she is listing is all normal toddler behaviour, she’s just interpreting it as something wrong, which definitely sounds like anxiety, though it could just be attention seeking.

DD1 was similar at this age and would also absorb phrases from books we read to her and repeat them at nursery and home, and I would only twig when we read that book again. I remember nursery teachers telling me she said "Jackie entered with a flourish!" and when we got home and read Winnie the Pooh at bedtime "Owl entered with a flourish!" - ah.

She is just very bright and did well at a superselective grammar school and is now at university.

You have either anxiety or are developing munchausens by proxy.
yoor Childs behaviour sounds normal. For any diagnosis of adhd / autism you’d have to begin by showing that they symptoms are causing detriment. This doesn’t sound like th case here

It’s difficult to report when the op changes usernames every time they start these threads, and I honestly try and avoid it if possible. I really hope the op lets the message sink in this time, as others have started reporting her threads. If she doesn’t actually recognise her own issues and only answers to posters telling her what a caring mum she is (and I’m not saying she isn’t, it’s just this particular issue isn’t healthy for anyone), she will just continue posting looking for validation.

Presumably you have raised the issue with MN? It does sound worrying

Amazed how you are curious when the behaviour of the op has been explained to you over several posts now. I’d happily link many of her threads so you can see such concerning behaviour yourself but you have said you’d rather stay ignorant of the history.

When a countless number of posters over many threads (an untold number of us being parents to autistic children ourselves) have picked up that so far the OP’s child is developing within typical range yet her own behaviour is somewhat concerning, it’s not really for a latecomer such as yourself to start waving their own stick around at said posters…

We all know behaviours serve a purpose.
It’s curious you’ve decided rather than explore purpose of the behaviour for the OP you go for the stick.
Enjoy your stick for whatever purpose it serves for you.

It’s completely normal for children this age to be repeating whole phrases, it’s all part of learning.

I’ve recently spent some time working in a SEN school and have heard the kind of echolalia that is a sign of something awry, and it’s not what you describe. If she’s repeating phrases in ways that actually make sense then it’s honestly not concerning. If she starts announcing “box empty” to mean the bath is full that’s something to keep an eye on.

I’m not saying your child isn’t autistic, just that your description doesn’t indicate that. Try not to stress about it so much. You are describing very normal toddler language development. Interacting with children the same age is a very positive sign.

Hang around, you’ll soon notice a pattern of threads. Next one should be 27 months I believe? Then it will be a 28, 29, 30 month developmental thread. As I said, I’ve noticed this poster for at least the past 6 months, if not longer. I have four of these threads within easy read of my ‘threads I’m on’ recently all under different usernames but exact same posting style. Maybe you have more patience than everyone else, but the poster who quoted you is correct - there has been plenty of gentle replies until the repetition became obvious. This is now a damaging obsession with a young child at the centre of it.

The gentle approach has been tried 100's of times over the last months with this poster.
She ignores it. She posts over and over about her poor daughter who sounds normal and lovely.
I'm sorry if my post offended you truly I am. But context is everything with this one. And there is a 2 year old girl behind all this who's being subjected to a damaging obsession that we really do not want to encourage.

I have not seen other posts and do not intend to look. I have yet to find a situation personally or professionally where a person is better influenced by the stick than a carrot.
I understand that by seeming to condemn the OP you are hoping to change her view more quickly than a gentle approach. Good luck with that.
As for your judgement of ‘damaging’ I will give it the appropriate attention for a binary point of view.

OP whatever the situation is I hope you find compassionate support for both you and your family for whatever you need.

I think that age is too young to tell unless it is a more obvious autism presentation (someone i know has a DS who was unable to talk until he was 5 for example)

This is probably more down to developing cognition rather than pure linguistic ability, no?

It's easier for little kids if you ask them concrete things like do you want X or y

I am a Teacher of the Deaf. I spend my working life focusing on children's language development and supporting it. I have given you some input on how to support your daughter's language and you haven't taken any notice. Your daughter's language is good from what you're telling us. I can't see any examples of her using echolalia from what you have posted.

You post this or similar every week, you get the same answers every week. I don't know what you're looking for. She sounds normal, kids learn in all sorts of ways, they play in all sorts of ways, they communicate in all sorts of ways. There a huge spectrum of behaviour and most of it is well within the boundaries of "normal".

I think you need to see your GP for your anxiety or find a therapist.

I think what's important to understand, OP, is that this level of anxiety isn't healthy even if your child does turn out at some point to have additional needs. At the moment you need to focus on working with and accepting her as she comes and sitting with the uncertainty that the future holds. You need to do that whether she has autism or anything else or nothing is. I would get some help with that.

raspberrieswithchocolate is right.

I know this might feel hard to accept, but if you really care about your child you must go and talk to someone about your high level of anxiety. Your child will benefit if you do, and I am sure that this is what you want.

I wish I knew how to help her

You can help your daughter @Ladybug1235 by getting help for yourself.

I have read some of your other threads.
You are the one who needs help, not your daughter. She sounds like a normal little girl, if she ends up with issues it will be because of you. You are not being a loving, supportive parent to her by continuing to act like this, by refusing to simply enjoy her and allow her to be a normal toddler.

I know that sounds harsh, I'm not normally so blunt, but I think it's needed here. Because we're talking about the wellbeing of a very small child here, and you're not acting in her best interests. I agree with others, your posts are very disturbing, it does seem like this is bordering on a munchausen by proxy situation. It's not normal to analyse your child to the extent you do, and to want so desperately to find something wrong with her. Everyone else, including professionals who've seen her, see a toddler developing at a rate that's normal for her age.

I hope people in your life recognise you need help and intervene before you cause harm (psychologically/emotionally) to her, and you will if you continue in this manner.

Some kids just pick up on a phrase that is used and run with it, it means nothing really.

Your daughter definitely sounds like she's within the range of normal development, don't forget even with NT kids there is a huge range of "normal" some are speaking in sentences at 15 months ,others don't til they're 3. Some are walking at 9 months and some don't til they're 18 months, very very different but all are developing normally.

Excellent post.

When DS was around 19 months, I was MILDLY concerned he had very few words and didn’t use them in context but I realised he didn’t really ‘get’ what language was even for at that age. As soon as I started to teach him that words were a useful tool to get what he wants, his talking came on really quickly.

So for example, if he pointed at something because he wanted it, I would ask him to at least make an effort to say the word. ‘Milk’ was ‘Ma’ for example. All of a sudden his little brain clicked that language would be useful for him and his speech proceeded as normal. He is now 7 and nobody jas any concerns about him, least of all me

I absolutely agree with this. Many of us have had worries at some point or another about our child's development. However the obsession this poster has with her daughter having autism/afrid/adhd is quite frankly disturbing and she seems to have little awareness of how harmful a self diagnosis can be on her child or how this obsessive thinking can impact her daughter. She speaks about her daughter as if she's some sort of laboratory project, constantly analysing and evaluating her and looking for problems and with no sense of warmth, care or enjoying her daughter for who she is.

I didn't know of posting history. So just to give background to the OP.
I was a nanny when younger and when my child 1 arrived knew something was 'off'.
I took him to meet family at about two weeks old. He screamed his head off being passed around. He hasn't slept through till he was 5.
He was constantly on the go and very highly verbal.
He did things like trying to climb from windows when he was in Fireman Sam stage, because he copied the story.
It was nursery who flagged the concerns about his social play (I didn't say anything at all).
GP referred us but was told huge waiting list so also booked private.
Private paediatrician diagnosed him. As it happened NHS paediatrician appointment arrived the next month and as I wanted to make sure I didn't tell them about private diagnosis.
Diagnosed by NHS on first appointment.

Btw, if you keep this up OP you will create issues for your child that wouldn’t otherwise exist. Not autism (which you seem to really want your child to be diagnosed with) but anxiety most likely. As someone who is clearly an anxious person yourself you surely don’t want your child to be anxious and worried all the time. As I said above, enjoy your child as they are.