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Feel so let down by a major store I trusted.

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Landladyissues · 31/03/2025 09:35

In December last I thought the time had come to buy a new laptop. There is a major High Street Department store I trust, in Oxford Street. I have a shoulder impingement so can't carry, and am getting on a bit, added to which I don't know much about computers so I waited until my daughter could come with me to help choose. The ASUS laptop I chose wasn't in stock but needed to be picked up from my local associated supermarket. And I picked it up on January 2nd. My daughter set it up a few days later. It seemed fine. But I noticed that the hinge guard popped out if the screen was beyond a certain angle. In fact, when I looked at the laptop from the side, it looks as though the hinge isn't properly in line. I told daughter and she said it should be under warranty. I had a virus that hit me for 6 in February and I planned to take it back to Oxford Street hoping to exchange it, possibly for a sturdier model. But couldn't do this alone. Eventually, last week, after weekends of daughter not being available, I called the store and was told it was out of warranty - the warranty only lasted a month. I was kept an hour on the phone as the adviser kept asking me to hold as he spoke with his manager. As a 'concession' he agreed to take the laptop away for repair - but that I would have to save everything on it and he had no idea how long I'd be without a laptop. I spoke with some friends who know laptops and they said that they felt the laptop was sub-standard. But I can't really fight my corner and I can't last without a laptop. I complained but got nowhere. The laptop works so I suppose I'd just better live with it. But next time with electrical appliances, I'll use Curry's!!

Am my expectations unreasonable.

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Landladyissues · 03/04/2025 08:14

Really great advice from all you guys - no, Curry's might not be better, but they would be cheaper - and closer for me to return. I feel a bit overwhelmed by all the rigmarole.

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Strikeback · 02/04/2025 06:38

We bought some chairs at JL earlier this year which we then needed to return.....the palaver involved was unbelievable. Really put me off and normally I love them.

Landladyissues · 02/04/2025 06:23

I am really worried about JL - I was such a faithful, trusting shopper - since 1983 when I moved to North London and discovered Brent Cross. Then I moved to Surrey but there was the cake and coffee freebies, which always drew me back - either to Bluewater or Oxford Street - but the benefits have reduced in recent years, and the tech support didn't feel like support at all. Had I known when I bought the computer that the 'real guarantee' only lasted a month, I wouldn't have bought the laptop from them. But I picked it up on 2nd January. A few weeks later I went down with the worst winter virus I've ever had. I didn't realise that there was an issue (and didn't look that carefully). I have a permanent shoulder problem - which means that for carrying larger items I rely on my daughter - also she is tech-savvy - I'm not. And she wasn't free to sort it out for me. I'm expected to download everything that's on it (where to?), take it back to JL, and wait an unknown period - at least weeks I am told - while they try to sort it out for me. It's all too much. Like I say, Curry's is only a few miles away! I feel like such a twerp!!

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N84 · 02/04/2025 00:17

You have Consumer Rights for 6 years in England. It’s often easier to use this than your warranty, which seems not to be worth the paper it was written on. Even if you bought a secondhand item you still have legal rights, if the item is not of satisfactory quality, unusable or not as described. In your case your rights are even stronger as your laptop is under 6 months. Citizens Advice Bureau have an online tool to help you: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-wrong-with-a-purchase/return-faulty-goods/ .

It’s worth sending a strongly worded email to their customer service department, stating how they are contravening your legal rights and detailing the rigamarole they’ve put you through. Customer advisors in the store are often unaware of this, and they’re not paid at a salary level to care.

And if you still don’t have any joy (which shouldn’t be the case) right them an open complaint letter on Twitter. You won’t get sued OP, can you imagine the PR on that? “Major retailer sues woman for openly complaining about faulty product”. It’s not worth the reputational risk or the salaries of the employees that would have to deal with it.

Return faulty goods

Find out when and how you can return faulty goods for a refund, repair or replacement.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-wrong-with-a-purchase/return-faulty-goods/

Manthide · 01/04/2025 11:09

I have bought multiple laptops from John Lewis including Asus ones, in the past and I had issues with 2 of them. One was dd2's and they gave her another laptop to use whilst hers was being repaired (she was at university).

Everysand · 01/04/2025 10:32

I doubt Curry’s will be any better

TY78910 · 01/04/2025 10:13

rosemarble · 01/04/2025 09:39

I thought when you buy something from a shop your contract is with them NOT the manufacturer.
If they have sold you something not fit for purpose (breaking in the first year) then you should not be left w/o while they send it off for repair.

The consumer rights act is between you and the retailer, a warranty is something given to you by a manufacturer separately to your consumer rights. The retailer is the body that you report warranty claims to in the first instance as for most products there isn’t a physical shop for that brand. Eg, if you buy an LG TV, there isn’t an LG shop you can walk in to for service, so you would go back to where you purchased it from. You can however go on the LG website and ask for repair / service directly if you don’t want to go via retailer.

The retailer has a responsibility to provide a repair within the first year, or a refund within the first month for defective products. There isn’t a timeframe set out by which they have to complete that service, and as mentioned upthread it is likely the product gets sent abroad to fix so takes weeks. As long as the retailer has provided that service, whether you feel the timeframe is reasonable or not, they aren’t in breach of the consumer rights act. If you prefer a refund for the goods, you can ask for this instead. However, it’ll be partial - pro rata, so usually (product cost divided by 6 years which is how long you’re covered for, minus the length you had the product for).

SunnieShine · 01/04/2025 09:43

ThereWillBeSigns · 31/03/2025 09:48

I KNEW this would be John Lewis!

Me, too.

rosemarble · 01/04/2025 09:42

Needmorelego · 31/03/2025 21:12

I think she was making a joke 😁
Although I do find a trip to a massive Tesco much more exciting than JL 😂

Especially the ones with the travelators or moving walkways, whatever they're called; where the trolley 'sticks' to the incline!

rosemarble · 01/04/2025 09:39

TY78910 · 01/04/2025 09:29

Your warranty isn’t with the retailer, but with the manufacturer as the retailer doesn’t make the product. Under their ‘guarantee’, they will send off for a repair on your behalf. This will take a considerable amount of time. You can claim your warranty with Asus directly if you have the receipt to prove purchase date.

I thought when you buy something from a shop your contract is with them NOT the manufacturer.
If they have sold you something not fit for purpose (breaking in the first year) then you should not be left w/o while they send it off for repair.

TY78910 · 01/04/2025 09:29

Your warranty isn’t with the retailer, but with the manufacturer as the retailer doesn’t make the product. Under their ‘guarantee’, they will send off for a repair on your behalf. This will take a considerable amount of time. You can claim your warranty with Asus directly if you have the receipt to prove purchase date.

Landladyissues · 01/04/2025 09:24

Post script - by the way, I didn't want to name the store in case I got sued!

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Landladyissues · 01/04/2025 09:23

about Asus - if they are so bad, surely a department store who, historically valued its reputation, would not advise people to buy them. BTW, I agree. My last lap top lasted years without an issue - a Lenovo. I'm really grateful to those who said that the store had acted correctly - why did it take them an hour on the phone to provide a solution. The operator kept putting me on hold so they could speak with their manager. I asked if he might not put me through directly to the manager - cut out the middle man - but he said this wasn't possible.

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CosyLemur · 01/04/2025 00:51

ThatLemonBear · 31/03/2025 19:50

They can’t possibly only offer a months warranty on a laptop. You have the legal right for something to last as long as is “reasonable” for the price paid. You don’t have the right to just change your mind, but if the item is genuinely faulty they need to refund or replace

The 1 month is for the store to replace; after that the electrical item gets sent to the manufacturer who either repairs or replaces.

CosyLemur · 01/04/2025 00:48

NattyTurtle59 · 31/03/2025 21:35

I'm writing this on an Asus laptop which I've had for over two years with no issues whatsoever. It wasn't particularly cheap either.

You're lucky! It's by far the laptop brand I have calls to repair the most; and because of how they're made the smallest issue could be either super expensive or impossible to fix

NattyTurtle59 · 31/03/2025 21:35

CosyLemur · 31/03/2025 18:31

Your first mistake was buying an Asus they're the worst laptops you can buy which is why they're so cheap. Your second mistake was not taking it back in time, I know you had a virus in February but the issue was there when you first brought it, surely your daughter could have taken it back for you?

I'm writing this on an Asus laptop which I've had for over two years with no issues whatsoever. It wasn't particularly cheap either.

Needmorelego · 31/03/2025 21:12

deeahgwitch · 31/03/2025 20:07

Tesco isn’t a department store @Bogginsthe3rd

I think she was making a joke 😁
Although I do find a trip to a massive Tesco much more exciting than JL 😂

thankyounextplease · 31/03/2025 20:20

I mean it's standard to expect them to send the laptop to the manufacturer for repair. It usually takes a while because it will be somewhere abroad.

It sounds like you were impatient, it wasn't their fault you're only just getting round to taking it back 4 months later, it obviously wasn't a problem that stopped you using the laptop.

The easiest and fastest route would have been to just take it to your local computer repair shop, mine would do it for free because he's nice but it would only be a few quid if yours charges.

deeahgwitch · 31/03/2025 20:07

Tesco isn’t a department store @Bogginsthe3rd

HelloNorthernStar · 31/03/2025 19:54

Needmorelego · 31/03/2025 10:37

Department store on Oxford Street that has associated supermarkets......
🤔

And given the crap after sale service, definitely John Lewis.

SwanOfThoseThings · 31/03/2025 19:53

Muchtoomuchtodo · 31/03/2025 09:48

Did you pay on credit card? You may have some protection if you did

This. @Landladyissues If you paid by credit or debit card, you may be protected. Contact your card issuer and tell them you have bought an item not fit for purpose and want to raise a charge back (if debit card) or a Section 75 claim (if credit card).

ThatLemonBear · 31/03/2025 19:50

They can’t possibly only offer a months warranty on a laptop. You have the legal right for something to last as long as is “reasonable” for the price paid. You don’t have the right to just change your mind, but if the item is genuinely faulty they need to refund or replace

ThatLemonBear · 31/03/2025 19:46

MoreChocPls · 31/03/2025 09:42

Sounds like it was second hand. What was the store?

Department store with an associated supermarket can only be one brand… associated with soppy Xmas Ads

CosyLemur · 31/03/2025 19:07

BuildbyNumbere · 31/03/2025 18:09

One month warranty sounds odd … have you checked your paperwork?

Quite standard for electrical items; 1 month and the store will replace after that it's down to the manufacturer to repair or replace; for the remainder of manufacturers guarantee.

Daisydiary · 31/03/2025 19:07

That’s interesting @CosyLemur but I can assure you that it had only been opened a couple of times and not misused at all. Maybe it was you who was at the other end of my unsuccess call to JL! 😩

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