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It's a CF one

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Willowthewhip · 31/03/2025 01:02

Back from a slightly tense weekend away and good to get opinions on my reasonability puls share some CFery!

Group of 4 friends from a sports hobby (long stopped), who meet every month or so for a wine. Friend (the CF) has always come across as a bit tight, eg would never buy someone else a drink but happy to accept offer of one, that kind of thing.

Anyway, my aunt has a holiday house. Ive visited lots with family, it's beautiful and my aunt has always said we can come whenever (assuming no one else is there). Ever since hearing this, CF has banged on about wanting to visit. I was deliberately 'oh maybe' as wasn't sure id enjoy a weekend trip with them. However, as is way with CFs, no hint was got and they persisted, made out to the rest of group that I'd invited them all, and a date was set.

The CFery included:

  • refusing to get great value coach and instead pursuing non CF friend to drive us,
  • bringing literal car full of clothes/shoes/home comforts (hence refusung coach as wouldn't be able to carry it to station) meaning rest of us had journey with bags (including hers) on our laps (and suggesting we get out and get last minute ££ coach tickets instead))
  • claiming the master suite and then moaning next day (to my Aunt who'd popped in briefly to check we were ok!!) about how terrible the bed was, how noisy the ensuite toilet was etc...
  • not coming on (free) trips my Aunt had arranged as wanted 'me time'
  • bringing sandwiches to lovely pub as didn't want to pay for pub food
  • generally just bring PITA - too hot, too cold, hungry, bored etc.

Theres loads of other things but these are just the ones from top of head.

However, reason for this post is I'd asked group if they were ok to contribute to a thank you gift for my aunt. Now, Aunt is wealthy, she absolutely could charge us to stay, but doesnt. Previously we've bought a big bunch of flowers, or houseplant, fruit basket etc - a token of our thanks but still something my Aunt would find a treat.

I'd estimate the cost to rent the house for 2 nights would be £600+

CF said happy to contribute £5.

I honestly thought, you tight cow. Aibu?!

And yes, everyone's financial situation is different but don't invite yourself to someone's house if you're not prepared to contribute properly to the costs when there! Plus regularly away on mini breaks and overseas holidays so not completely skint.

OP posts:
BountifulPantry · 31/03/2025 12:12

Don’t invite her again!

jen337 · 31/03/2025 12:05

There’s a reason “no is a complete sentence” is a mumsnet catchphrase. Why all the “maybe” and going along with plans they made? Stop letting people walk over you and avoid problems like these.

thinktwice36 · 31/03/2025 12:01

@Willowthewhip does CF have any redeeming qualities? Struggling to see why you bother with her at all 😂

godmum56 · 31/03/2025 11:58

Fairyliz · 31/03/2025 11:22

Perhaps surprised was the wrong word. I suppose it’s more that I think of a perfect reply (polite but firm), unfortunately about 10 minutes later, by which time the CF has got her own way.

I like “fuck no!” Short and to the point.

Anabellie · 31/03/2025 11:53

CFery can only exist as long as it’s enabled. I’ve voted that you are unreasonable as are friends with a known CF and have allowed this situation to happen. I feel sorry for your aunt being insulted in her own home, frankly.

Gloriia · 31/03/2025 11:48

She does sound a pita but as others have said you just need to be more assertiveness and stop letting her rule the roost.

If you'd expected £50 pp for a hamper and flowers for your Aunt you should have said so pre trip. If I'd stayed in a well off aunt's holiday home I'd have thought flowers from all for £40 total would have sufficed.

TheHerboriste · 31/03/2025 11:33

I don’t get it.

”Sorry, but my aunt only hosts family members,” could have nipped this in the bud.

CF does sound obnoxious.

StopPissingMeOff · 31/03/2025 11:29

ForZanyAquaViewer · 31/03/2025 01:33

YABU if you didn’t actually open your mouth and say something while all this was happening.

The passivity of some posters is almost worse than the CFery they are willing to tolerate. FFS!

I also voted YABU, for these reasons.

latetothefisting · 31/03/2025 11:24

MellowCritic · 31/03/2025 07:29

Wow never seen such a bandwagon response in all my time here. Yes op shouldn't enable. I also don't understand why op even mentioned it to ppl that she has access to her aunts home. Me personally wouldn't mention stuff like that for this exact reason of any inappropriate persons asking for access too. But to all the posters coming on here acting like they all so tough and blaming op, I'd say more then likely you've all enabled or turned a blind eye to someone in your whole lives because sometimes it's easier and we see it day in and day out.

Edited

"acting like they're so tough" 🤣🤣🤣
I haven't seen anyone suggest they should have taken CF outside and beat her up!

Mockery aside, I think this is actually part of the problem. People (and we as a nation are very bad in particular) who hate confrontation so much that they can't deal with it normally and let things slide, or blow up completely out of proportion (often after letting things slide for weeks/months/years!, or when they're drunk) or bitch about that person behind their back and never do anything about it.

People don't seem to understand that there's a whole scale of confrontation. "standing up" to CF! doesn't have to entail shouting and rudeness and causing a scene, it can be a quiet word, a simple no, making a joke of things, etc.

Apart from anything else OP has since confirmed that they did stand up to CF several times, so it's clearly not unreasonable of so many posters to suggest they should have. The awkward part in "drawing the line" is that different things push different people's boundaries.

For example, as an introvert I would find it reasonable for the friend not to come on all the outings if she needed some time alone, and, while £5 is an absolute joke, have to say I'd also be a bit unhappy at £50 (which another poster suggested as an ok amount) - being sprung on me. That's a third of the cost they'd have paid as private guests - if it had been discussed before staying that they'd contribute a set amount, of course it's a more than reasonable charge and still a bargain, but as it was offered as a free holiday it could have come as a shock. However I would not have been able to stay quiet at being rude to the aunt or the sandwiches thing!

Whereas OP didn't find some of those examples bad enough to raise at the time but did call out other examples of cheeky fuckery.

Fairyliz · 31/03/2025 11:22

godmum56 · 31/03/2025 08:09

Why are you surprised if the CF has form?

Perhaps surprised was the wrong word. I suppose it’s more that I think of a perfect reply (polite but firm), unfortunately about 10 minutes later, by which time the CF has got her own way.

sandyhappypeople · 31/03/2025 11:21

YABU for going along with something you knew you wouldn't enjoy.. the only person that MADE this happen, was you.

stop being so 'non committal' when someone asked you something and just say no.

femfemlicious · 31/03/2025 10:51

OldCottageGreenhouse · 31/03/2025 10:47

Same!
Show her these threads once she’s old enough to fully understand them. Then she can see some consequences to allowing it.

I've spoken to her over and over and over again but she just can't bring herself to go against what people want. I think it's due to how her father has treated her 😕.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 31/03/2025 10:47

femfemlicious · 31/03/2025 10:14

I'm really worried about my daughter. I see her allowing this as well. She is scared of saying no to people because she feels they won't like her if she does💔 I dunno what to do😞

Same!
Show her these threads once she’s old enough to fully understand them. Then she can see some consequences to allowing it.

RedToothBrush · 31/03/2025 10:45

ForZanyAquaViewer · 31/03/2025 01:33

YABU if you didn’t actually open your mouth and say something while all this was happening.

The passivity of some posters is almost worse than the CFery they are willing to tolerate. FFS!

This.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 31/03/2025 10:37

LBFseBrom · 31/03/2025 04:29

I quite agree, this all sounds too far fetched to be real.

No I didn’t say I don’t believe it’s real, that’s not what I meant. I completely believe it’s real as I’ve had a CF friend before who genuinely, truly believed everyone existed for her benefit and her use. I’ve also had people in my life like OP who allow these CF’s (and everyone else) to do/say anything and everything, in order to ‘keep the peace’ with seemingly no limit. My MIL is this person and would walk scorched earth in bare feet if it kept the peace. It’s irritating beyond belief as you never can trust her fully as she keeps things to herself if she determines it might cause even slight annoyance to someone around her.

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 10:35

JHound · 31/03/2025 10:24

Oh I remember - Cheeky F.

Oh I always thought it was Complete! Every day's a school day.

RosaCollins · 31/03/2025 10:26

So, would you go away with this person again, OP?

RosaCollins · 31/03/2025 10:25

JHound · 31/03/2025 10:14

What is CF?

Cheeky Fcuker.

JHound · 31/03/2025 10:24

JHound · 31/03/2025 10:14

What is CF?

Oh I remember - Cheeky F.

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 31/03/2025 10:23

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Backing away slowly from the enraged wet lettuce...

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 31/03/2025 10:21

Willowthewhip · 31/03/2025 10:02

The master room wasn't a big deal - All the rooms are nice, it was more amusing that of course she picked the biggest ie best one. I know actually the toilet is a bit noisy, and other rooms have nicer views, easier to get to etc. But she had to have that one. As the kids would say, she's got main character syndrome.

My aunt honestly welcomes everyone. My cousin has some questionable friends and this woman loves it. She thought the CF was a hoot, and laughed off her complaints - in retrospect I think she may have thought she was joking!

Right, so you weren't too wet to put a stop to this but found it hilarious instead. Ok.

jellyfishperiwinkle · 31/03/2025 10:21

YANBU, but you can't force them to contribute, and I wouldn't expect it based on past behaviour. I wouldn't invite them to anything like this again and would let them know exactly why.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/03/2025 10:20

Tbrh · 31/03/2025 05:00

💯

Same again!!

ConnieHeart · 31/03/2025 10:19

Hwi · 31/03/2025 09:05

I wonder if the Aunt is now posting somewhere something along the lines of 'This is CF territory - I have a relative and I don't mind if she comes once every 15 years and stays for free, but she somehow thinks it is OK to bring her friends too! I have to pop in every now and then to make sure they did not trash the house, and I try to hint that I don't like those troupes coming in by arranging free day trips for them, but to no avail'.

Then the aunt would be as much of a wet lettuce (albeit a kind one) as the OP

BrokenLine · 31/03/2025 10:18

Moonlightglow · 31/03/2025 10:09

It’s easy to say on here that you should have said something or pulled her up but it’s hard in a group situation.
CF are usually subtle so it’s only afterwards that you look back and see all the behaviour as a whole that you think wtf did I put up with all that. For all the posters on here saying say something, I haven’t seen anyone call out CF in person and I unfortunately know a couple. They’ve been called out over text and ditched by a few people but no ones said anything to their face, and that’s always their defence for their blatantly cheeky ways.

That’s because Mn is disproportionately full of people who struggle with relationships, are poor at communication (lurching between meek WL and eruption and going NC), and appear to live surrounded by ‘friends’ they dislike.

This OP already knew what this woman was like, and, as the person with the aunt who owned the house, was the one with all the power in the scenario. There was no need whatsoever for the weekend to even go ahead — she could have simply said there were no weekends when it wasn’t being used in the immediate future. No need for some kind of reality tv-style ‘calling out’.