Keir Starmer ignoring Mother's Day

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 2025-03-30T22:12:51+00:00

AIBU to think it's a bit of a glaring omission? Nothing on Twix today except something about Ramadan, and an RT about Myanmar. Lots of upset on there about him ignoring Lent too. It's probably too late to expect anything now. What's his objective here? It feels so... deliberate. And bizarre. Fully expecting some to accuse me of dog whistling. But I'd still be interested in why they think he's done it.

TruthOrNo · 06/04/2025 21:50

OCDmama · 01/04/2025 21:49

@DangerQuakeRhinoSnake @Pinepeak2434
My god you two need to get off social media and find some kind of life. A disgrace?
Jesus wept.

You first dear. Get off social media and stop telling strangers that and deserve to be loved.

cardibach · 02/04/2025 12:10

Janiie · 02/04/2025 12:08

Yes I mean really he just needs ro be clearer and more consistent with his social media but this covers it too .

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Where’s the lack of clarity?
And consistency isn’t the same as ‘doing exactly the same everywhere’.

Janiie · 02/04/2025 12:08

BIWI · 02/04/2025 10:51

In this view, the Dunning–Kruger effect is the thesis that those who are incompetent in a given area tend to be ignorant of their incompetence, i.e., they lack the metacognitive ability to become aware of their incompetence. This definition lends itself to a simple explanation of the effect: incompetence often includes being unable to tell the difference between competence and incompetence. For this reason, it is difficult for the incompetent to recognize their incompetence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Yes I mean really he just needs ro be clearer and more consistent with his social media but this covers it too .

cardibach · 02/04/2025 11:54

Janiie · 02/04/2025 08:30

'It's fine to dislike him and his politics but to imply that he isn't intelligent or well qualified is ridiculous.'

I've just said I don't doubt his qualifications I'm talking about his media appearances, sm posts, comms etc. All the stuff that should be impressive and slick. He just isn't.

While I think in the modern age comms are important, and I agree overall (not this specific instance) Labour hasn’t been great at it I don’t really want ‘slick’. For me that becomes almost a synonym for ‘glib’. I want serious politicians and I do t are much if their social media is patchy. To reiterate - not in this instance. It wasn’t patchy, or incompetent, or sexist in this instance.

cardibach · 02/04/2025 11:51

Janiie · 02/04/2025 07:57

'Edit: saying that someone with the academic and professional background Starmer has isn’t ’the brightest spark’ is a bit odd.'

I don't doubt his academic qualifications I just mean from a comms/pr point of view.

That’s not what you said. It might be an idea to be more accurate with your communication when criticising someone else’s communication.

BIWI · 02/04/2025 10:51

(Posted because I had to look it up)

BIWI · 02/04/2025 10:51

In this view, the Dunning–Kruger effect is the thesis that those who are incompetent in a given area tend to be ignorant of their incompetence, i.e., they lack the metacognitive ability to become aware of their incompetence. This definition lends itself to a simple explanation of the effect: incompetence often includes being unable to tell the difference between competence and incompetence. For this reason, it is difficult for the incompetent to recognize their incompetence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

BeHere · 02/04/2025 09:14

GCAcademic · 02/04/2025 08:53

This thread is an object lesson in the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Indeed!

HotSawce · 02/04/2025 08:53

thepariscrimefiles · 02/04/2025 08:21

Lol at him not being the brightest spark! He passed the exam for a free grammar school place, he qualified as a barrister and became the Director of the Crown Prosecution Service. It's fine to dislike him and his politics but to imply that he isn't intelligent or well qualified is ridiculous.

You just make yourself look more ridiculous.

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Yes I dislike his politics but he's very intelligent

GCAcademic · 02/04/2025 08:53

This thread is an object lesson in the Dunning-Kruger effect.

ExtraOnions · 02/04/2025 08:34

Janiie · 02/04/2025 08:30

'It's fine to dislike him and his politics but to imply that he isn't intelligent or well qualified is ridiculous.'

I've just said I don't doubt his qualifications I'm talking about his media appearances, sm posts, comms etc. All the stuff that should be impressive and slick. He just isn't.

Do you think he does all the Content Creation, and posts himself, on the “Prime Minister” account ?

Janiie · 02/04/2025 08:30

'It's fine to dislike him and his politics but to imply that he isn't intelligent or well qualified is ridiculous.'

I've just said I don't doubt his qualifications I'm talking about his media appearances, sm posts, comms etc. All the stuff that should be impressive and slick. He just isn't.

SomersetBrie · 02/04/2025 08:26

Janiie · 01/04/2025 21:39

Social media is like the media. For example, as a pm you don't say one thing on the BBC and something else on ITV. You say the same thing on all channels. Ditto X and iG.
We know he isn't the brightest spark but someone should advise him on these matters.

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This is really ridiculous.
If the PM goes on ITV, he does not also go on BBC and say the same thing.

And it is just your opinion that people need to say the same thing across all social media, loads of professional people release different information on different platforms for different audiences.

I recommend that you follow the PM on all platforms and not just Twitter, then you won't miss anything.

And as for your brightest spark comment - there is no "we" about it, own your opinion.

thepariscrimefiles · 02/04/2025 08:21

Janiie · 01/04/2025 21:39

Social media is like the media. For example, as a pm you don't say one thing on the BBC and something else on ITV. You say the same thing on all channels. Ditto X and iG.
We know he isn't the brightest spark but someone should advise him on these matters.

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Lol at him not being the brightest spark! He passed the exam for a free grammar school place, he qualified as a barrister and became the Director of the Crown Prosecution Service. It's fine to dislike him and his politics but to imply that he isn't intelligent or well qualified is ridiculous.

You just make yourself look more ridiculous.

Janiie · 02/04/2025 07:57

'Edit: saying that someone with the academic and professional background Starmer has isn’t ’the brightest spark’ is a bit odd.'

I don't doubt his academic qualifications I just mean from a comms/pr point of view.

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MyToasterCanLiveAgain · 01/04/2025 22:32

Um are you the same poster who got upset about her partner not wishing her for her birthday and then for mother's day on The Socials? 🤔

cardibach · 01/04/2025 22:12

Janiie · 01/04/2025 21:39

Social media is like the media. For example, as a pm you don't say one thing on the BBC and something else on ITV. You say the same thing on all channels. Ditto X and iG.
We know he isn't the brightest spark but someone should advise him on these matters.

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That’s nonsense. He might well go on a political programme on BBC and talk about serious issues, and breakfast TV on ITV and talk about more personal or family matters. Same thing just happened with social media.

Edit: saying that someone with the academic and professional background Starmer has isn’t ’the brightest spark’ is a bit odd.

GCAcademic · 01/04/2025 22:09

Janiie · 01/04/2025 21:39

Social media is like the media. For example, as a pm you don't say one thing on the BBC and something else on ITV. You say the same thing on all channels. Ditto X and iG.
We know he isn't the brightest spark but someone should advise him on these matters.

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Eh? Politicians have always picked and chosen TV channels. They frequently go on the BBC and not ITV, or vice versa. Have you ever watched the news or political programmes?

He’s not the one who’s coming across as not very bright here.

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2025 21:50

Janiie · 01/04/2025 21:39

Social media is like the media. For example, as a pm you don't say one thing on the BBC and something else on ITV. You say the same thing on all channels. Ditto X and iG.
We know he isn't the brightest spark but someone should advise him on these matters.

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He’s a hell of a lot brighter than you.

Pinepeak2434 · 01/04/2025 21:49

OCDmama · 01/04/2025 21:49

@DangerQuakeRhinoSnake @Pinepeak2434
My god you two need to get off social media and find some kind of life. A disgrace?
Jesus wept.

Sticks and stones darling!

OCDmama · 01/04/2025 21:49

@DangerQuakeRhinoSnake @Pinepeak2434
My god you two need to get off social media and find some kind of life. A disgrace?
Jesus wept.

BIWI · 01/04/2025 21:43

Oh @Janiie

We know he isn't the brightest spark

Really?

SallyWD · 01/04/2025 21:40

cardibach · 01/04/2025 21:25

Oh give it up @Janiie
He posted about Mothers’ Day on one platform and Eid on another. Banging on endlessly about it and trying to make it contempt for mothers or some sort of incompetence or lack of inclusivity is silly.

Hear hear!

Janiie · 01/04/2025 21:39

cardibach · 01/04/2025 21:25

Oh give it up @Janiie
He posted about Mothers’ Day on one platform and Eid on another. Banging on endlessly about it and trying to make it contempt for mothers or some sort of incompetence or lack of inclusivity is silly.

Social media is like the media. For example, as a pm you don't say one thing on the BBC and something else on ITV. You say the same thing on all channels. Ditto X and iG.
We know he isn't the brightest spark but someone should advise him on these matters.