Feel like a mug paying for buses in Wales

Clearly showing my age but when I was young it was 10p in Edinburgh!

The bus company is paid for every person on the bus. Disabled / OAP passes cost. Central government pay for the passes.

I don't know what a white card is but I imagine it is similar.

@Hortus
*I'm one of the people like your grandparents. I have a £500k house, nice car, investments, pension etc. I applied for my bus pass because I'm entitled to it, I've paid taxes all my working life, paid tens of thousands to Cardiff council in council tax, the only benefits I ever took in my life was child benefit.

So quite honestly I can't see that giving me a free bus pass which I use less than once a week is a problem*
The problem is that we are in a terrible position as a country and need to be extremely careful about how we allocate public money. It's all very well giving pensioners free bus passes, gold plated public sector pensions and even universal state pensions now but this can really only morally be done if we can be sure that the younger generations that are currently funding all this will be able access similar provisions when they reach pensionable age. It is looking more and more likely that this isn't the case so essentially many of today's young people face a future where they will end up contributing just as much as you in taxation, will pay more to own assets and then will be entitled to much less than you in old age. Do you think this is fair or right?

I don't really understand your point. There are poor people in all ages groups and statistics show that working age people with children are more likely to suffer poverty than pensioners. Pensioners are far more likely to be rich than younger age groups.

I am always astonished about the difference in bus fares round the country .
Here in the Midlands it’s £4.80 for a daysaver and £18 for the week and £64 for the month . And we moan like hell 😂
I can imagine we have far more buses and routes than in Wales. We should be more grateful .

YANBU but there isn’t much you can do about it .

I live in south Wales and before I was 60 I used the bus once a year to go home when my car was being serviced, otherwise I drove everywhere or used trains to go to London. It was cheaper to drive and park than to get the bus.

Since I got my free bus pass at 60 I do use the bus a lot more, I now never drive and park in Cardiff although I still drive to most other places as the bus service isn't great.

I'm one of the people like your grandparents. I have a £500k house, nice car, investments, pension etc. I applied for my bus pass because I'm entitled to it, I've paid taxes all my working life, paid tens of thousands to Cardiff council in council tax, the only benefits I ever took in my life was child benefit.

So quite honestly I can't see that giving me a free bus pass which I use less than once a week is a problem.

I agree.

Most wealth is held by seniors.

£28 for a weekly ticket!? My commuter train sets me back £30 daily for a half hour journey.

Pensioners get a free bus pass in Surrey which is definitely not Labour controlled!

We’ll get ya rich grandparents to pay for your car then and leave other old people alone 🤦‍♀️🤣🤣🤣

Price caps £3 now

My grandparents are certainly not poor. They've got a house worth half a million, tons of investments, a car, pensions @CaptainArcher

But the pensioners on the bus aren't like your grandparents, are they op?

i don't know the statistics but most pensioners are not as well off as your grandparents.

According to google North Wales is an area of wealth disparity, having some areas that are the poorest in the UK, and some wealthy areas.

Perhaps your bus is passing through some of these poorer areas where people haven't been able to get their sh*t together.

You sound privileged and entitled and lacking empathy.

I was almost sympathising with you until now. What an incredibly egocentric view you have. Your grandparents are not all the people over pensionable age in the world, or even in Wales. It would be nice to think their situation was typical though. Sadly, it's not.

The Wirral is £3 for a single bus trip, so a daily ticket would only be £1.70 different. You can make it up every 10 trips by getting a free prescription for something if you're that desperate to even things out.

It is very ridiculous that each different part of the United Kingdom gets different things.
I know we are all 4 countries in one union but we either receive all the same benefits or we might as well just be independent countries!

And the £2 cap isn't that great, it's for a single journey, so to even go to the hospital in the same, town, I'd need to get a bus to town, then chane, so it would cost £8 there and back, in the same town.

I feel jealous that everyone in Wales gets free prescriptions

i do agree about the bus pass. they should only have one if needed

I wish my commute to work was that cheap. I drive to the station, park - £11.50 per day and then train £58.00 return.

Wirral is going to go up to £3 for a single trip soon. Soft girl over here remembers that it was 40p once.

A day to go ticket,which is unlimited journeys, is £5.00 in Cardiff.

I live in Wales. The bus is just not affordable so I walk or drive. Also bicycle theft is rampant in South Wales-I love cycling, but can’t use my bike for shopping or going into town as it is likely to be stolen.

There was no need to quote the whole OP.