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AIBU to start limiting contact with my MIL for my 3 kids?

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clrd · 30/03/2025 20:53

We have three kids—5, 3, and almost 1. My husband works very long hours and earns well, which allows me to be a SAHM (what I’d always wanted to be). Our setup works well: I handle the kids’ schedules, education, health, as well as family visits because if we only saw family when my husband was available, it would eat into our rare family time and mean the kids saw their grandparents much less. It seems to work well with everything except MIL’s visits.

The problem is, the more kids we have, the more overbearing my MIL becomes. She has an opinion on everything. Every visit, she reminds me she doesn’t like the school our eldest goes to (she knows I was the one who researched and chose it). She constantly brings up how I “didn’t breastfeed for long enough” with my youngest, jokingly guesses if I’m pregnant and regularly jokes that it’s time for me to get pregnant again to “keep up the pattern.” When I brush it off, she’ll shake her head and say things like, “Well, you don’t want to leave an awkward gap, do you?” as if our family planning is somehow her decision. She also completely undermines my parenting whenever she visits. If I say it’s bedtime, she’ll immediately counter with, “Oh, don’t be silly! Granny’s still here, they can stay up late.”

When I was pregnant with my youngest, I had horrible morning sickness. One afternoon, MIL was over while I was struggling to get through the day, barely able to keep food down. As I’d been trying to keep 2 toddlers happy all morning, I thought now that their gran is here maybe I’ll sit and relax for a minute. She looked me up and down and said, “Just because you’re pregnant doesn’t mean you can stay on the sofa all day - the kids will think it’s new baby’s fault their mum doesn’t play with them. Also put some make up on before DH gets home - men love with their eyes” all said in a tone as if she’s doing me a favour sharing her advice based on a lifetime of experience and knowledge. I was exhausted, nauseous, and barely holding it together, and I just burst into tears. Instead of apologizing, she just rolled her eyes and muttered, “Oh, it’s just hormones.”

Another time, she made a comment that actually reduced me to tears in front of my kids. The baby had been fussy all morning, I was dealing with a tantrum from my toddler, and my eldest was whining about something minor. I was completely overwhelmed. MIL just sighed dramatically and said, “Maybe if you gave them more time each individually, they wouldn’t act like this.” I just broke. For context, they have all my time. I rarely go anywhere without them and spend all day every day making sure they’re healthy, happy and being developed. Admittedly it’s mainly with all 3 (or now, 2 of them, as the oldest is at school) rather than 1 on 1. I started crying right there while my kids stared at me, and instead of offering any kindness, she just muttered, “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

For context, my husband is from a culture where grandparents are much more involved, often even living with their adult children. That’s not how we’ve structured our family, but it explains why MIL sees herself as having a bigger role than I think is appropriate.

My husband is an amazing dad, incredibly supportive, and earns more than enough to provide us with a very comfortable life. We even have a housekeeper, so it’s not like I’m drowning in housework, it’s just that every time MIL is here, I feel constantly judged, criticised, and completely dismissed.

Would I be unreasonable to start limiting contact, even if that means the kids see her less?

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YoungSoak · 01/04/2025 20:42

She sounds like an absolute wagon.

I would make sure you are very busy and sign the kids up for lots of activities so you are not available for visits. Once a fortnight for a couple of hours sounds plenty. I’d also visit in her house instead of hosting her so you can leave when you want. Get a ring doorbell and don’t answer if the bitch comes knocking!

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 01/04/2025 20:41

This is definitely a ‘problem DH’ more than a ‘problem MIL’ thread.

He’s coming across as a bit spineless, happy to see his wife in tears as long as mummy dearest is happy.

simpledeer · 01/04/2025 20:34

Don’t see her without DH present. If she’s nasty, you take your children and leave.

She’s a nasty piece of work and you need to toughen up and deal with her. If DH doesn’t like it, he can fuck off too.

MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 01/04/2025 20:30

@Beaniebobbins your DH sounds like he's in fog.
Go to relate counselling

MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 01/04/2025 20:29

Bitch! OP you need dh too be on board you Will happily respect respectful elders

If she comes again as you open the door be brutally blunt, I'm not in the mood for rude and undermining comments today just to warn yiu

If she starts say okay that's it I warned you please leave.

If she's rude Infront if DC defend yourself and them

Beaniebobbins · 01/04/2025 20:26

I did this and it has not ended well. After years of difficult behaviour I told MIL I did not want her in my house or near my children. She was awful, waking babies, upsetting toddlers, commenting on weight, racist comments, misogynistic comments, wouldn’t leave you in peace, would throw my things out and replace them with her own old tat, I’d be expected to cancel or rearrange any plans I had to accommodate for her so missed many days with my own family. Eventually I had enough and demanded she left and didn’t come back. But I am now “the bad person”. DH says he can’t cope with me not getting along with his mum and I am making him miserable. He doesn’t have a bad word to say about his mum, even though for many years he also avoided her and after he had an accident a few years back I had to deal with her on his behalf because he couldn’t cope with her and under no circumstances wanted her to come round. But she is apparently the wronged party here. Even though I told DH how bad I found it and that she she gave me anxiety and that I would sit in the car and cry before going in the house to see her. I am still a terrible person while she is a blameless angel. So now it looks like my own little family is broken, DH hates me. I’ll not get to see my two DC every day and they are everything to me, I can’t bear the thought of not tucking them up every night. Just don’t know what to do any more. I just feel like I can’t face the world right now.

Elsvieta · 01/04/2025 20:21

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

Because DH expects you to put up with it doesn't mean you have to. Stop letting her visit when he's not home, let him complain all he likes, and don't budge. You can't go on like this.

Lookuptotheskies · 01/04/2025 19:37

Also, I'm curious what happens if she visits and you have a friend round, or a member of your family there??

Is she still rude?

If so, does anyone say anything to her?

Nn9011 · 01/04/2025 19:36

You did the right thing. You also need to consider the impact on your kids. Their seeing you upset and not speaking, having been there it creates a lot of frustration and can lead to outbursts. It's also showing them it's ok to be treated this way. If your husband says it's normal you tell him to read what you've written and tell him that he needs to go to counseling if he can't see there is a problem with how she behaves.

MeridaBrave · 01/04/2025 19:33

Don’t invite her round when it’s just you. Find a yoga class on eg a Sunday morning and have your DH be responsible for yours kids relationship with his mother at that time.

Annoyed123456 · 01/04/2025 19:33

toomuchfaff · 30/03/2025 21:20

I'm another one in total agreement here. DH can be responsible for interactions with his mother.

In every contact, Every single time she says something rude - call it out.

Sheila - did you mean to be so rude then, it came across as rude and insensitive.

Sheila, what do you mean - that sounded very rude.

Sheila - would you repeat? I'm not sure if heard you correctly, 🤔

Letting DH deal with visits makes sense, but watch out if MIL is at all malicious. The last thing you need is her undermining you behind your back.

Make sure he tells her the behavior is inappropriate.

Lookuptotheskies · 01/04/2025 19:33

She's a bully!

She's putting you down, making you feel like crap, undermining you, offering no support, telling her own daughters they're fat, telling your dad her school is rubbish, etc. It sounds like most of the family let her rule and she hates that you don't so she's chipping away at you.

How often does she currently visit? I'd drastically cut it down to an absolute bare minimum. Be very busy with playdates out of the house, kids activities, baby/toddler classes, etc. Have a full week that really benefits the kids and you, and leaves little time for her to bring you down.

I'd also perhaps suggest your DH has an afternoon where he goes to visit her with the kids once a month to give you a short break. It's great you are both happy with the division of labour but this may be a way to give you a little respite from mumming, and give HIM a little 1:1 with his critical mother telling his daughter her school is crap. 🙄😡

goldenretrieverenergy · 01/04/2025 19:32

She sounds awful.

Time to stop her visits and let your DH deal with her.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 19:28

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

How would your DH feel if your parents were rude and overbearing to him? If they told him that everything he did was wrong? Would he be OK with that? I very much doubt it.

She is making you cry and you are a nervous wreck in her company. That isn't acceptable and your DH needs to understand and protect you. He certainly shouldn't inflict his awful mother on you when he isn't there.

CatsWhiskerz · 01/04/2025 19:27

Honestly, tell your DH to tell her to wind her neck in! What an absolute bitch!
Also stop being a push over, you need to stand up to her, it's y comfortable but you hold the cards, you can live without her, she needs your family unit

thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 19:24

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:18

She leaves but will come over again and be just as horrible if not more.

Don't invite her and tell your DH that she can't come if he isn't there. She just takes the opportunity to be horrible to you when you are on your own with her. Don't let that happen again. What's the worst she could do if you refuse to host her without your DH?

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:23

Shinyandnew1 · 31/03/2025 07:03

There’s a “respect your elders” thing in their culture, so it wouldn’t go down well with either MIL or my DH.

I wouldn't care what someone so rude thought of me, but if it 'wouldn't go down well' with your DH, then you have a bit of a problem. What do you mean-what would he say/do if you didn't have your MIL round much due to her rudeness?

Yeah, that’s exactly the issue. It’s not just MIL being rude—it’s that DH doesn’t really see it as a problem because, in his eyes, she’s just being a “typical mother” and I should take it with a pinch of salt. Like, once, when I was pregnant and struggling with awful morning sickness, she told me I was being “dramatic” and that in her day, women just got on with it. I was exhausted, barely keeping food down, and she actually laughed and said, “You wanted all these kids, didn’t you? No point complaining now.” I ended up crying in the bathroom, and when I told DH later how upsetting it was, he literally shrugged and said, “She didn’t mean it like that.”

If I start limiting visits, he’ll act like I’m making a huge deal out of nothing and blowing things out of proportion. It’s like he gets that she’s difficult, but because he’s used to it, he just expects me to put up with it too.

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thepariscrimefiles · 01/04/2025 19:20

What an awful woman she is! I would be totally mortified if I made any of my DILs cry. That should be the last time you invite her round. She doesn't deserve you or her lovely grandchildren. Respect should go both ways and as she doesn't ever show you any respect, in fact it's the complete opposite, she shouldn't expect automatic respect from you, just because she is older.

clrd · 01/04/2025 19:18

Elsvieta · 31/03/2025 18:29

Sounds like you've had good outcomes with standing up to her (her leaving soon after). Result! Keep it up.

It's their culture, not yours (and you don't want it to become your kids', right?). Funny how many "cultures" seem to mean "everybody craps on women and women have to put up and shut up". Reject the culture.

She leaves but will come over again and be just as horrible if not more.

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clrd · 01/04/2025 19:17

Oneearringlost · 31/03/2025 08:05

Does your H have other siblings? With spouses...I wonder what her relationship is like with them, especially if they have children?

You need to not see her without your H.

Challenge (and I echo, asking her to repeat what she's just said) and stand up for yourself and your values. "Yes, the children's bedtime is now"..." Would you like to read eldest a bedtime story?" etc... "Routines and boundaries are important for the children and make them feel safe" stated as fact and VERY firmly! She needs to see you as Boss in your own home, with your own children.
YOU are their mother. It sounds like she sees this as a power play. Play her at her own game and grow some balls! Good luck x

He only has sisters.
With the sisters MIL very much interferes just as much (maybe more?), she comes over and tells them off if they are raising their children “wrong”. At family gatherings it almost feels like MIL is their manager - supervising what they’re doing with the kids and interfering whenever she pleases. I’ve heard her tell her daughter / my SIL that she’s fat whilst SIL serves herself seconds and SIL stopped. She constantly overrules SIL in parenting if SIL says something MIL disagrees with. SILs consult MIL on a lot of parenting things it seems.
I feel like MIL is disappointed that she doesn’t have the same power and influence with my kids as with her other grandchildren.

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clrd · 01/04/2025 19:11

She came over yesterday, and honestly, within minutes, I was already regretting it. My eldest was chatting about school, and MIL, in that voice, goes, “Well, at least the holidays are decent. Such a shame you couldn’t pick a good school for her. Girls do so much better without the distractions, but I suppose that was your decision.”

My daughter looked at me, confused, like she was waiting for me to say something and she could definitely sense the tension. MIL knows I was the one who chose the school, and this was just her way of reminding me she disapproves. I just changed the subject, but later, when my daughter ran off, MIL leaned in and went, “I just hope you haven’t made a mistake.” I felt my eyes sting, but I refused to let her see me tear up.

Then in the kitchen, I was just making tea, trying to get through the visit, and she follows me in, sighing at how I’ve arranged everything, muttering under her breath. Then she goes, “You’ve really made things hard for yourself, haven’t you? Three so close together, no wonder you’re always tired. You barely stopped breastfeeding before you were pregnant again. And if you do want more, don’t wait too long—otherwise, the little one will be left out while the older two are close.”

I just burst into tears. Couldn’t hold it in. I was already exhausted, and here she was, making me feel like I was doing everything wrong. She just rolled her eyes. “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

So I took a deep breath and said, “I think we need to take a break from these visits.”

She laughed. Proper laughed. “Oh, don’t be silly, dear. I only say these things because I care.”

I didn’t even argue. Just wiped my face, walked out, started tidying up in that visit’s over way. She got the hint, made a big show of hugging the kids “Granny’s going now! I’ll see you all soon!” like I was banning her from seeing them. Then, just before she left, she gave me this fake sweet smile and said, “Think about what I said, dear. It’s only because I actually care about your kids.”

I shut the door behind her and just stood there for a second, trying to process. Then I burst into tears again. I never cry, except after these visits. I love my life, I love my kids, but these visits push me to my absolute limit.

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Needlenardlenoo · 31/03/2025 19:00

Yes you should limit the amount of time she spends with your children. She is an awful role model. The good news is that people like this never want to do any hands on childcare and tend to lose interest once children grow up enough to be able to express their own opinions.

Look up "grey rock" for times you absolutely have to spend with her.

Elsvieta · 31/03/2025 18:29

Sounds like you've had good outcomes with standing up to her (her leaving soon after). Result! Keep it up.

It's their culture, not yours (and you don't want it to become your kids', right?). Funny how many "cultures" seem to mean "everybody craps on women and women have to put up and shut up". Reject the culture.

Oneearringlost · 31/03/2025 08:05

Does your H have other siblings? With spouses...I wonder what her relationship is like with them, especially if they have children?

You need to not see her without your H.

Challenge (and I echo, asking her to repeat what she's just said) and stand up for yourself and your values. "Yes, the children's bedtime is now"..." Would you like to read eldest a bedtime story?" etc... "Routines and boundaries are important for the children and make them feel safe" stated as fact and VERY firmly! She needs to see you as Boss in your own home, with your own children.
YOU are their mother. It sounds like she sees this as a power play. Play her at her own game and grow some balls! Good luck x

lazycats · 31/03/2025 07:38

Reading your post I was waiting for the inevitable “my husband/MIL are from a different culture” line.

You need to have a frank conversation with your husband to stand up for you when she talks like this. It’ll be much more effective coming from him.

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