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AIBU to start limiting contact with my MIL for my 3 kids?

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clrd · 30/03/2025 20:53

We have three kids—5, 3, and almost 1. My husband works very long hours and earns well, which allows me to be a SAHM (what I’d always wanted to be). Our setup works well: I handle the kids’ schedules, education, health, as well as family visits because if we only saw family when my husband was available, it would eat into our rare family time and mean the kids saw their grandparents much less. It seems to work well with everything except MIL’s visits.

The problem is, the more kids we have, the more overbearing my MIL becomes. She has an opinion on everything. Every visit, she reminds me she doesn’t like the school our eldest goes to (she knows I was the one who researched and chose it). She constantly brings up how I “didn’t breastfeed for long enough” with my youngest, jokingly guesses if I’m pregnant and regularly jokes that it’s time for me to get pregnant again to “keep up the pattern.” When I brush it off, she’ll shake her head and say things like, “Well, you don’t want to leave an awkward gap, do you?” as if our family planning is somehow her decision. She also completely undermines my parenting whenever she visits. If I say it’s bedtime, she’ll immediately counter with, “Oh, don’t be silly! Granny’s still here, they can stay up late.”

When I was pregnant with my youngest, I had horrible morning sickness. One afternoon, MIL was over while I was struggling to get through the day, barely able to keep food down. As I’d been trying to keep 2 toddlers happy all morning, I thought now that their gran is here maybe I’ll sit and relax for a minute. She looked me up and down and said, “Just because you’re pregnant doesn’t mean you can stay on the sofa all day - the kids will think it’s new baby’s fault their mum doesn’t play with them. Also put some make up on before DH gets home - men love with their eyes” all said in a tone as if she’s doing me a favour sharing her advice based on a lifetime of experience and knowledge. I was exhausted, nauseous, and barely holding it together, and I just burst into tears. Instead of apologizing, she just rolled her eyes and muttered, “Oh, it’s just hormones.”

Another time, she made a comment that actually reduced me to tears in front of my kids. The baby had been fussy all morning, I was dealing with a tantrum from my toddler, and my eldest was whining about something minor. I was completely overwhelmed. MIL just sighed dramatically and said, “Maybe if you gave them more time each individually, they wouldn’t act like this.” I just broke. For context, they have all my time. I rarely go anywhere without them and spend all day every day making sure they’re healthy, happy and being developed. Admittedly it’s mainly with all 3 (or now, 2 of them, as the oldest is at school) rather than 1 on 1. I started crying right there while my kids stared at me, and instead of offering any kindness, she just muttered, “Oh, don’t be so sensitive.”

For context, my husband is from a culture where grandparents are much more involved, often even living with their adult children. That’s not how we’ve structured our family, but it explains why MIL sees herself as having a bigger role than I think is appropriate.

My husband is an amazing dad, incredibly supportive, and earns more than enough to provide us with a very comfortable life. We even have a housekeeper, so it’s not like I’m drowning in housework, it’s just that every time MIL is here, I feel constantly judged, criticised, and completely dismissed.

Would I be unreasonable to start limiting contact, even if that means the kids see her less?

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Christmaschildcare · 16/08/2025 22:03

How are you @clrd x

Onlyonekenobe · 10/04/2025 18:54

Witchcraftandhokum · 08/04/2025 18:48

I know I'm missing the point of the thread but you've "always" wanted to be a stay at home mum? Really? You never aspired to be anything else?

Wow. That's breathtakingly rude! And shockingly ignorant.

MikeRafone · 09/04/2025 20:14

Witchcraftandhokum

what did you aspire to be?

Witchcraftandhokum · 08/04/2025 18:48

I know I'm missing the point of the thread but you've "always" wanted to be a stay at home mum? Really? You never aspired to be anything else?

MikeRafone · 08/04/2025 18:40

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdN6tyDR/

sadly this has been life’s and used

Hols2024 · 08/04/2025 16:42

I would ask DH if he expects you to be bullied in your own home as that is just how she is and if he would expect his children to put up with that behaviour. It’s also teaching your children bad manners!
I won’t spend time with people that treat me badly I really hope he helps you navigate limiting time with her and continues to help you stop her rude comments. Good luck

Annoyed123456 · 08/04/2025 13:32

„she glanced at my toddler’s snack and went, “You give them packet snacks??! You know, when DH was little, I made everything from scratch. You should just tell me you’re not coping and I’ll bring over real food for my grandkids, I love them and can’t bear to watch them eat junk. Oh dear! My babies! … etc”“

It will never be good enough for her. It isn’t about what they eat, it is a power trip. My MIL visited and binned food I had made - freshly spaghetti bolognese, broccoli gratin, fruit crumble, etc. Then… went out and bought processed crap so DH and DC had some ‚proper food‘. He doesn’t stand up against it and we are close to divorce.

inthekitchensink · 04/04/2025 22:03

You’ve got this. I think you seem wonderful and your kids & husband are very lucky to have you. You have much more patience than me, I would be pulling my hair out - she sounds dreadful. I know you don’t wish to discuss with your friends as it may come across as speaking against your husband, however, I would gently suggest a good friend or two as a sounding board could be very helpful for you - I’m sure they love you and will help you come up with myriad ways to respond to her vile little comments and I bet you end up feeling a lot better for it.
If not, consider a counsellor, even if it’s under the guise of ‘therapeutic self actualisation’ or some such bullshit if you don’t want to tell him you need somewhere to spew about how toxic his bitch of a mother is- everyone needs a space to vent and come to conclusions about things, and it could help save your sanity.

In conclusion, you’re a saint for putting up with her. And for defending your kids in front of her. But the adrenaline & cortisol firing up when she visits must be decimating your peace of mind and that makes me sad for you 💐

Onlyonekenobe · 04/04/2025 21:52

It’s not that I doubt myself, it’s that I wasn’t raised in a family where people act like this. I grew up with warmth and kindness and support

In which case you should just use the language you heard at home growing up!

MrsAga · 04/04/2025 21:44

You’ve had some great advice so far.
I agree you need some stock phrases to use on her. Practice conversations in your head so it doesn’t sound too alien to you.

Reframe her in your head. She’s not some matriarch that you are trying to impress. Think of her as a child that needs educating.

“oh Beryl that’s a bit unkind, we try to practice kindness in this house, do think about your words before saying them out loud”
“that’s an interesting thought, not how we do things here though”
”hmmm, ok”

or just grin at her whilst thinking “can’t wait to tell the MN crew that corker”
or maybe a big MIL bingo card on the fridge that you can enthusiastically tick off every predicted put down she comes out with (maybe just have it in your head)

It'll take time, if you can get one or two practiced retorts in each time, you’ll soon feel better about her comments. Good luck.

whistlesandbells · 04/04/2025 20:18

Just see her less. Share less. Grey rock.

Cognacsoft · 04/04/2025 20:10

I’d be tempted to put on a pair of headphones every time your mil is rude.

Realistically though I think mil knows she’s upsetting you and gets a kick out of it.
If she begins a sentence that you know will finish with eg. If you have another baby then trying saying the end of the sentence before mil does. Or sigh loudly and say
‘she’s off again.’

clrd · 04/04/2025 19:50

@Onlyonekenobe @Needlenardlenoo
Thank you both—really lovely replies and you’ve honestly hit on a lot of what I’ve been feeling. Of course, I am learning on the job and doing everything for the first time (at least with my eldest), like all parents, but I don’t think for a second that MIL is right (and her parenting definitely isn’t what I’d want to mirror based on the things DH’s shared about his childhood). But the way she says things—with such force and this weird confidence—throws me off every time. It’s not that I doubt myself, it’s that I wasn’t raised in a family where people act like this. I grew up with warmth and kindness and support, and this kind of… point-scoring, passive-aggressive tone just feels really foreign to me.

I loved the suggestions—especially turning her comments back on her with stuff like “oh is that what your friends do with their grandchildren?” I’ll definitely try it next time.

@LAMPS1
You’re completely right—it’s actually creepy when I replay some of her comments. At the time, I just freeze or try to move on quickly, but when I think about it calmly, it’s not okay. I’m not her daughter, and she absolutely shouldn’t be speaking to me like this in my own home.

I’ve started putting boundaries in place—no more surprise visits, and DH has backed me on that. It’s a small win but it’s made a huge difference already. I’m also building up the courage to practise a few phrases so I’m not always scrambling for words. “That’s inappropriate and I don’t want to hear it” might become my go-to. It feels clear without being dramatic.

@Truetoself
No offense taken, but I think you might be a bit off the mark. I actually handle stress well—I’m juggling three kids under 5, a household, and a husband who travels for work. That’s not exactly the slow lane. It’s just that I like peace, I like calm, I like people being kind. That doesn’t mean I can’t handle stress, it just means I don’t go looking for drama.

As for work—I didn’t enjoy the job I had before kids because I didn’t find it rewarding. I got no real pleasure from the day to day. Whereas with motherhood, even though it’s definitely more full-on and chaotic, I enjoy it, because I’m spending all day with the little people who are my world. It’s hard, but it’s so rewarding—seeing them grow into lovely little humans makes me feel proud every single day.

I do think I could work on assertiveness though—that’s fair. It’s not about low self-esteem, but I struggle when people are aggressive or sly with their words. I freeze, then spend hours thinking of what I should have said. I’m getting better though, and honestly, this thread is helping more than I can say.

Thanks again to all of you. It honestly feels like I’ve stumbled into the world’s most qualified group chat—sharp, no-nonsense, and somehow more helpful than Google, therapy and three coffees combined. I’m saving half these responses to re-read before her next visit.

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Truetoself · 04/04/2025 19:15

I mean you can’t change MIL but you can change the effect it has on you

Truetoself · 04/04/2025 19:15

hmm maybe I am wrong but you seem to be a person who can’t handle a lot of stress and you like your life simple with not much to do. Why motherhood is challenging when the kids are little is the juggle and the dependency and your DH has taken those pressures off you. You did not enjoy working - why? Was it too stressful dealing with others?
Perhaps you need to work on your self esteem and assertiveness?

Onlyonekenobe · 04/04/2025 18:09

Aw, bless you op. You sound very sweet.

I think the reason she’s getting to you (and I think she knows this, too, which is terrible of her) is because there’s a part of you that questions whether she might be right. It’s normal. You’re young, you’re a young mum, and you’re busy.

Don’t berate yourself for this. You’re allowed to learn on the job (that’s what parenting is!) and you’re also allowed to turn down help from grandparents. The best grandparents are the ones that understand that every child is different and every family is different, that what worked for them won’t work for everyone. And also only to give advice when asked for it! She considers herself the oracle of a single truth. Such a thing simply doesn’t exist.

Shes very arrogant to think she knows best for your children. In your shoes, I’d be turning everything she says into a question: what makes you think that? (wouldn’t bother listening to the answer) Oh, do you think? Oh is that how it was in the 80s and 90s? oh is that what your friends think of their grandchildren? Basically I’d just let her talk and talk - she obvs loves the sound of her own voice - ignore everything she says and just do my own thing. As regards my DC, if she says something you don’t want them taking on board, you correct it there and then in front of her and give not a shit what she thinks of it. You will make mistakes and that’s okay. Know that she made plenty too. It’s important for children to see their parents mess up, take responsibility, fix things and move on. You need to model this for them.

It takes time to find your feet and gain confidence in your mothering. It’ll come. As I tell friends in this situation: with rights come responsibilities. She doesn’t get the right to criticise or correct if she can’t take responsibility for the outcome (which she can’t as she’s not the parent). Let her witter on with her “insights”: they’re meaningless. Just carry on as you are.

Needlenardlenoo · 04/04/2025 17:49

I think you have really gained some insight, OP.

I have met one or two people like you before with very gentle (sheltered?) upbringings, for whom it is a real shocker when they encounter much more combative families where they must assert themselves and be on their guard.

(Although I imagine any inlaw would find MIL a challenge!)

There is a big age gap between you and your husband. That's probably not helping.

I had a different experience. I was brought up.by parents without much emotional intelligence, something I've needed a lot. I taught myself what I needed though and so will you.

LAMPS1 · 04/04/2025 17:31

OP, I think that because your DH lets it slide without it affecting him, you really still aren’t seeing how shocking her remarks are.
They aren’t just digs about your parenting, housekeeping, finances and lifestyle which are bad enough. There are also, very personal and disrespectful comments about your weight, appearance, hormones and family planning, in a very creepy and very entitled way. It’s socially unacceptable and she deserves to know that.

It has to stop.
You aren’t her daughter.
She can’t speak to you this way any more in your own home. Your own mother must be horrified.
It’s totally inappropriate, interfering and incredibly rude.
Her ‘advice’ is uninvited, unwarranted, unhelpful, damaging and unwanted.
She enjoys getting away with it every single time.
She gets off on making you uncomfortable and upset.
She has no respect or even tolerance for you whatsoever
You personally owe her nothing and should give her a wider berth.
You DO owe it to yourself to let her know it has to stop.

If she feels entitled to subject you to her remarks in her own home because that’s how she shows she cares for you in her culture, (which I can’t believe for a second) then fair enough, - you are free to decline her invitations to go there and tell her exactly why. That’s what you should do OP.
’No MIL, until you stop the constant nasty digs, the children and I won’t be visiting’

But she has no right to subject you to her spiteful comments in your own home because in your culture, it is beyond rude and unacceptable. Tell her that.

It’s good to know you have put your foot down about her popping in all the time without a prior invitation. That’s real progress, well done. Your DH really has to support you with this and face the music from her when she complains.

Practise a few more ‘back chat’ phrases OP.
How about ….let me be quite clear, your offensive remarks are not welcome in my home.
Or, …I don’t care for your opinions MIL so keep them to yourself!
Or…. How about you learn to mind your own business about our private life!
Or…..That’s not your judgement to make so stop right now!
Or…..We make our own decisions without your interference thanks so give it up.
Or…..Stop being a busy body and keep your nose out of my family life.
Or…..That’s inappropriate and I don’t want to hear it.
Or….. Don’t expect me to tolerate any more of your disrespectful nonsense.
Or ….That’s just plain rude, shut the door on your way out please.
Or…..The world has moved on from your old fashioned parenting ideas MIL.
Or …..You deserve to know you come across as rude and socially inept in our culture.

clrd · 04/04/2025 15:32

Thank you again, truly. I know I’ve said it before, but this space has become something I really lean on. I don’t talk about any of this with friends—I don’t want to speak badly about DH or his family to people we know—so being able to write here and get all your thoughts (blunt ones included!) honestly helps more than I can say. I read every reply, and I’m so grateful for all the perspectives.

@loubielou31 – You’re not wrong. I do need to stand up for myself more. And no, it shouldn’t matter if MIL thinks I’m oversensitive, or if DH doesn’t quite “get it.” But I think I’ve always avoided conflict, and this feels so far out of my comfort zone. I’m not scared of her, exactly—I just freeze. Like I don’t know what to say without making everything worse. I’m working on it though.

@Zonder – “I think that’s really rude” might end up being my new catchphrase. It’s short, calm, and actually doable in the moment. I’ve been practising it in the car like a weirdo, and it makes me feel a tiny bit more in control already.

@BakelikeBertha – I haven’t tried your “you’re not hearing me” approach yet, but I’m going to. I like how direct it is. We’ve had so many versions of the same conversation where I end up crying and he ends up confused, and I think part of it is that I haven’t explained it like that—how it’s not about what he thinks is a big deal, but about how it makes me feel.

@sandyhappypeople – You make such a good point. I totally see what you’re saying now about how I responded to that “opinions” comment. I thought I was being brave by defending our daughter, but I did leave myself wide open. DH’s comment was much cleaner—firm, no room to argue. I’m going to steal that approach next time. I’ve also been thinking about your idea of fake-agreeing or playing it off a bit lighter when I can—it’s not about winning, it’s about getting through it with less damage. That shift in perspective really helps.

@Frostykitty – Yep, power. You’ve nailed it. I don’t think she consciously sits there thinking about power plays, but it definitely feels like a tug-of-war sometimes. I haven’t had a private word with her yet, but I’m getting closer to being able to. Just need to build myself up a bit more.

@CatherinedeBourgh – I actually am confident in my choices. I love motherhood, even on the hardest days. It’s not that I doubt what we’re doing—it’s more that I’ve never had someone in my life who jabs like this. My own family is so gentle and supportive, I’m just not used to navigating these sharp little digs and underhanded comments. It’s like my brain doesn’t know how to respond fast enough. But I’m learning.

@moveoveralice – I’m in my late 20s, DH is mid-40s. And yep, I’m definitely a bit ground down. I let stuff slide for so long that now I’m reacting to every little thing.

@allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld – Your comeback suggestion made me laugh. That’s actually a pretty solid way to shut her down without going full fire-breathing dragon. I think I’ve been too worried about keeping the peace, but honestly, she doesn’t deserve that much tiptoeing.

@Fargo79 – Oof, yeah. That one hit. I don’t think DH is unsupportive—he’s loving, helps with the kids when he’s around, provides, is kind—but when it comes to her, it’s like he’s still playing the same role he had as a teenager. Keep her calm, ignore the digs, get through the visit. But I’ve told him that what worked for him as a kid doesn’t work for me now as his wife and the mother of his kids. I think that clicked a little.

@jeaux90 and @ThePoetsWife – I’ve been reading about grey rocking this week and I’m going to give it a proper go. I need to stop reacting and giving her fuel. It’s hard when she’s in my house, but I’m working on keeping my cool and giving less away.

@VWT5 – I’ve actually already brought this up with DH. I told him that I don’t want to keep hosting her every week and that the visits need to be spaced out. He wasn’t thrilled, but I said it’s not about punishing anyone—it’s about keeping our home peaceful and giving me space to breathe. So I’m setting that boundary now. If she’s rude, visits get pushed back. Simple as that.

And lastly, just to explain where I’m coming from a bit more—I think I am just a sensitive person. I grew up in a home where people were kind, no one made sly comments or picked at each other. So now, when someone like MIL comes in and pokes at the way I parent or drops digs about money or lifestyle, it stings. Because I love being a mum. I think I’m actually doing really well at it—and maybe that’s why her comments feel so sharp. They cut right into something I care deeply about and am proud of.

Anyway, that was longer than planned. Thank you again for reading and replying and holding space for me to figure this out. I’m definitely a work in progress, but I’m feeling less alone in it now.

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Frostykitty · 04/04/2025 13:27

OP, everyone is pretty much saying the same thing. You cannot change her, you can only change your attitude and response. And this will involve a big shift in attitude from you - basically, you have to take control.

I get how scary this is, I've been there. Bit if you don't take control, this will drip drip drip and make you ill.

It took me 18 months of therapy to understand and change my behaviour, so it doesn't happen overnight, but the first step is to recognise what is happening.

This is a game which is all about power. She is trying to gain control in your house, relationship with your DH and children. You have to put boundaries in place to stop her.

As I said above, the most effective way of doing this is to take her to one side, away from the children, and calmly say:

"Please do not make comments about whether I am pregnant/dd's school etc...I have tried to let it go, because I want us to have a good relationship, but I am simply not prepared to discuss this again"

Then don't wait for a response. Don't discuss. Don't explain or justify it and don't repeat ever again. She will try lots of tricks - get angry, cry, tell your dh what a bitch you are, be extra nice to you...these are all tricks, so ignore them. Then grey rock any mention of these subject again.

Believe me, it works. You'll need to be brave, but it gets easier as your strength grows. Remember, you have the power here.

I came out of an abusive marriage and realised that I followed a pattern with everyone, and was being bullied by my boss mother, mother in law etc. I changed my behaviour patterns, and I won't take it now. And I was the biggest doormat ever! It can be done.

Fargo79 · 04/04/2025 09:00

If he's supportive and loving except when you actually need his support, and except when it causes him a bit of discomfort and conflict to be supportive, then he's not a supportive and loving husband. What he's saying is "be quiet and put up with the situation, regardless of how upsetting you find it, because that's easier for me".

It sounds extremely unlikely that your MIL will change and equally as unlikely that your husband will grow a pair, stand up to his mother and properly protect you and the children from her toxicity. So unfortunately it's just a case of deciding whether you can live this or whether you can find a way to tolerate it. Or whether you just carry on as you are, being disrespected in your own home and having your children listen to this misogynistic crap disguised as "culture".

ThePoetsWife · 04/04/2025 08:46

You can’t change her or control her.

the only thing you can change is how you handle this.

Google grey rock technique and practise.

if you feel undermined easily and quickly then maybe you need to work on your own self esteem and confidence

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/04/2025 08:13

@clrd MIL: “Goodness, she’s got a lot of opinions for a child! could you not have responded with "Goodness, you have a lot of opinions about my children for a mother in law, dont you?" she might have shut up at that point. make it known that her opinions are of no consequence so she should keep them to herself!! if dh wants to sit like a wee quiet kitten then so be it, but you dont need to take her shit! stand up to her in your own house!!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/04/2025 08:03

@clrd you are still being way to soft with her!! no more of this pushing back. it does not work with her. you just have to come out and be rude back to her. tell her to mind her own business and get out of yours. she is no longer allowed to interfere in your lives!

jeaux90 · 04/04/2025 07:48

OP grey rock. Look it up. She is the ultimate rude and passive aggressive asshole.

However, even a broken clock is right twice a day…girls do achieve academics better in single sex schools, secondary specifically. It’s a statistical fact.