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To think that “mental load” is just another way to moan about normal adult life?

370 replies

ByNimbleCrow · 30/03/2025 10:55

Everyone has responsibilities. Why do women act like keeping track of household tasks is some unique burden?

OP posts:
AllTheChaos · 30/03/2025 12:08

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 30/03/2025 12:05

If it has been for DECADES why aren't most adult men now sharing all "mental loads" if they have been raised by mothers doing it all for so long? Wouldn't that be the circuit breaker?

Nope, because they see their mother doing it all and expect their female partners to be the same. My grandmother worked and my dad still expected my mum to do everything, just like his mum had. Mum tried not doing it and everything fell apart, so she started doing it all again.

Tvp123 · 30/03/2025 12:08

Generally when people moan about taking on the mental load it's because they are taking on more than they should. For example one parent managing and knowing when all of the children's appointments/activities are. If something gets forgotten they'll get the blame but the other parent should take responsibility for knowing.
Some couples have a similar mental load problem where one partner (usually a man) expects the other to remember and manage things like birthdays and chrismas, even mothers day for their family.
So no, mental load is not adult life. I've never heard single and childless people about taking on the entire mental load for themselves as that is adulting.
I suspect you misunderstand what mental.load is.

DelphiniumHolly · 30/03/2025 12:08

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 12:04

I was lucky - my DMil had a career which DFil respected so DH grew up seeing both parents making decisions about the family and home.

My DH is similar, so the mental loud isn’t too much of a problem in our house. But I think me and you are lucky! A lot of my friends have a very different experience, which is sad to see.

SapphireOpal · 30/03/2025 12:07

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 11:59

Well women need to get their partners/husbands to step up and become an equal parent. Leave them to get on with it.

So you want women to be responsible for that as well? Why can't the men in question bloody well step up on their own?

Shatteredallthetimelately · 30/03/2025 12:06

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 11:59

Well women need to get their partners/husbands to step up and become an equal parent. Leave them to get on with it.

Majority of the time it's women that raise DC, yet a majority of the time its women complaining that men don't do their fair share.

Sharing the mental load should start when men are boys...then it won't come as such a shock to them that its only natural to help out.

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 30/03/2025 12:05

MoveOverMoon · 30/03/2025 11:45

Because for DECADES it has mostly fallen to women and is completely unrecognised. Read or listen to Eve Rodesky Fair Play.

If it has been for DECADES why aren't most adult men now sharing all "mental loads" if they have been raised by mothers doing it all for so long? Wouldn't that be the circuit breaker?

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 12:04

DelphiniumHolly · 30/03/2025 12:01

I agree with that too. But society is complex, with expectations being placed on women and mothers that have been passed down and perpetuated through generations. It’s an interesting conversation, isn’t it.

I was lucky - my DMil had a career which DFil respected so DH grew up seeing both parents making decisions about the family and home.

Bowies · 30/03/2025 12:04

I see it as describing a type of overwhelm and stress that some people, often mothers and women experience, as in feeling mentally overloaded and having an unequal burden of responsibility in the home (the patriarchy) and with DC often on top of paid work.

In the context of a more even distribution of responsibility, life more generally experienced as less stressful, cushioning factors - such as supportive family, good social networks, affluence - it may not apply.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 30/03/2025 12:03

Meanttobeworking · 30/03/2025 11:59

I do find it odd if the woman thinks the man should just know what she wants done without communicating it in any way. At what point did having to communication in a relationship become to much hassle?

Obviously it’s different if you’re up against strategic incompetence/straight up refusal to do any work.

Why is it up to the woman to delegate?

MockTheGeek · 30/03/2025 12:03

I’m carrying the mental load for five people - paying all the bills, food, meal plans, finances, future planning, daily activities, healthcare, appointments, benefits, all their household tasks and the management of such, making sure they have fulfilling lives, personal spends, toiletries, balanced diets, suitable clothing, footwear, glasses, hearing aids, haircuts, mobility aids and safety gear, birthdays, holidays.

None of them are my partner, he does his.

W0tnow · 30/03/2025 12:03

I think ‘household tasks’ is a term that kind of minimises the actual work. Probably because it’s seen as woman’s work. Lots of activities generally performed by women are demeaned, minimised. Stuff that is invisible except when it isn’t done. Cooking, cleaning, mending, organisation of lives etc,

MightAsWellBeGretel · 30/03/2025 12:02

ByNimbleCrow · 30/03/2025 11:02

It’s a genuine question. I see a lot of discussion about the mental load but isn’t managing household tasks just part of being an adult? I wanted to see what others think.

If it's just a part if being an adult, why do so many men opt out of it? Because it's time consuming, takes up headspace and are thankless tasks.

Of course, they are just every day responsibilities, but the problems arise when you're the only person with these things on your radar, whilst also working full time and doing most of the parenting!

DelphiniumHolly · 30/03/2025 12:01

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 11:59

Well women need to get their partners/husbands to step up and become an equal parent. Leave them to get on with it.

I agree with that too. But society is complex, with expectations being placed on women and mothers that have been passed down and perpetuated through generations. It’s an interesting conversation, isn’t it.

AllTheChaos · 30/03/2025 12:01

I feel like there is more ‘mental load’ now than in the past, perhaps erroneously, but there really does. Constant comms from school, helping children with homework (and to stay on top of it), endless emails from banks and insurance companies and the rest, dealing with all of the subscriptions and insurances and shopping around every year to get the best deals, planning and booking holidays and all of the things that need to be remembered like passports and meds, endless school events and outside of school enrichment activities for children to be planned and organised and then the many weekly comms about them, all of the admin that comes with having a SEN child and trying to advocate for them and get them diagnosed and an ECHP sorted, shopping and meal planning for multiple meals per meal because of everyone’s allergies and preferences, no more ‘meat and two veg’ because it got to be healthy and don’t forget to check the ingredients on every bastarding thing so the child doesn’t throw up after eating it, never mind the ‘is it UPF’ issue…
I do all of this. My ex doesn’t. My child comes back from his often ill, cold, and vomiting. He forgot to take her to the dentist when it was a day he had decided to have her in the holidays (the one day he took, I had to do all of the others) and gives her off to a female friend with kids instead for an all day ‘play date’, so then I had to rearrange it and it meant time off school which in turn meant asking the school and apologising and all of those comms and AAARGH! And no, there was no indication he would be like this before we had a child, he seemed like an honest and loyal and competent grown up, but here we fucking are.

faerietales · 30/03/2025 12:01

Ratisshortforratthew · 30/03/2025 11:59

And nobody has to stand for this. Kick out the useless partner or at least stop doing anything for them. I’ve lived with a couple of partners, it’s never occurred to me to do their personal chores as well as my own. If you’re running around after another adult and not doing anything to improve the situation you’re complicit in your own “mental load”.

Exactly. I can't imagine living with a grown man who needed me to wash his pants, or do his dishes, or book his dentist appointments, let alone marrying him and having a family with him. It's just a totally alien concept to me.

When I met DH he owned his own home. He did everything for himself and that hasn't changed just because we now live in the same house - why would it?

cramptramp · 30/03/2025 12:00

I agree OP. I think lots of people just like moaning about everything now.

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 11:59

DelphiniumHolly · 30/03/2025 11:58

I agree, as I said in my post. Ofcourse men are capable, and some men absolutely do do all of those things without being asked, but the reality is a lot don’t.

Just because your DH does, doesn’t mean everyone else’s does too.

Well women need to get their partners/husbands to step up and become an equal parent. Leave them to get on with it.

Meanttobeworking · 30/03/2025 11:59

I do find it odd if the woman thinks the man should just know what she wants done without communicating it in any way. At what point did having to communication in a relationship become to much hassle?

Obviously it’s different if you’re up against strategic incompetence/straight up refusal to do any work.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 30/03/2025 11:59

ThatShyRoseViper · 30/03/2025 10:57

Because usually it falls all or mostly on the female partner? At least that’s my experience and wider observation.

Are you a man OP?

Surely that's more to do with the female partner putting up with or taking on the job of the "mental load" and not speaking up.

If bought up to help share the load then it comes naturally to help and continue to do so once you've flown the nest.

Ratisshortforratthew · 30/03/2025 11:59

Reallybadidea · 30/03/2025 11:09

It is normal adulting but many men seem to opt out of it and expect their partners to do it for them.

And nobody has to stand for this. Kick out the useless partner or at least stop doing anything for them. I’ve lived with a couple of partners, it’s never occurred to me to do their personal chores as well as my own. If you’re running around after another adult and not doing anything to improve the situation you’re complicit in your own “mental load”.

Livpool · 30/03/2025 11:58

I don’t think YABU - in fact my friend always talks about ‘life admin’. Surely that is just life as an adult. She is child free and single, doesn’t care for a relative or anything but according to her she is always busy with ‘life admin’. What does that even mean?!

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 11:58

Odras · 30/03/2025 11:52

I think the mental load is more than household tasks. It refer to the project manager role a lot of women find themselves in. My DH does half the housework, cooking and laundry. He also does anything else I ask him. My parents think he is amazing. But actually I am there beavering away in the background keeping the whole show on the road - which child’s needs a PE kit, who has a doctors appointment, where is the soccer match, who got the passports, planned the holiday.,.. all me. That is the mental load. And then I delegate specifics off to DH but he doesn’t actually walk around with all this stuff in his head all the time.

Why can’t your DH remember about appointments, sports kit and matches? I assume he has a job where he needs to remember dates, times etc. Are you taking control and assuming he can’t remember?

DelphiniumHolly · 30/03/2025 11:58

Parker231 · 30/03/2025 11:55

DH is an adult and a parent and capable of noticing that new shoes are needed and taking them to be measured and bought. I don’t need to prompt or organise.

If he wants to cook a particular meal and we don’t have one of the ingredients, he will add it to the online shopping list. All men/fathers are equally capable.

I agree, as I said in my post. Ofcourse men are capable, and some men absolutely do do all of those things without being asked, but the reality is a lot don’t.

Just because your DH does, doesn’t mean everyone else’s does too.

Readingribbons · 30/03/2025 11:57

ByNimbleCrow · 30/03/2025 11:02

It’s a genuine question. I see a lot of discussion about the mental load but isn’t managing household tasks just part of being an adult? I wanted to see what others think.

i have never heard a single person complaining about the ‘mental load’.

I have only ever heard it used exclusively to refer to working women who default do all the organisation of household/ kids and ( often) husband without any recognition, let alone appreciation, that this is even a task they are doing.

howchildrenreallylearn · 30/03/2025 11:57

BatchCookBabe · 30/03/2025 11:55

100%. ^ 😆

Either this is an AI windup or the poster is using ChatGTP or Gemini to write their responses.

I suggest all Mums step away now and enjoy Mother’s Day 🥀 Let’s not engage x

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