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Accused of shoplifting after mistake. Should I complain?

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MARG07 · 30/03/2025 02:24

Tonight I went to Lidl which I go occasionally to (I'm not a regular shopper there and prefer Tesco, but I was shopping near it and popped into get a few items) I was pushing my 2 year old son in a push chair. He was asleep, and I had the hood pulled all the way down on the stroller. I got yogurts and put them on the hood (I was only getting a few things and couldn't get a trolley or basket as I was pushing my son) then i got milk and realising it would fall off the hood as there was already stuff on it (as it wasn't folded up but pulled all the way down) because he was asleep, in a split second I put it in a carrier bag I had at the side of the pushchair on a clip. Stupid I know but I wasn't thinking.

I then got two birthday cards and some chocolate and placed them on the hood as they were small and would not fall off, and proceeded to the check out. I didn't sleep well and was exhausted also. I was in a queue and by the time my turn came I paid for everything and began to walk out, as I was putting the stuff in the bag I suddenly saw the milk and remembered it, but before I could do anything, an aggressive security man began to shout at me and proceeded to accuse me of stealing. He pulled out all the items i had, including stuff I'd purchased minutes before in another shop and kept shouting to give it all back. (One or two items they sold too) I had a receipt for the stuff from another shop, and kept telling him to look at it. He just kept ranting and rifling through all my stuff though really really aggressively. Everyone was staring and another customer came over with my receipt which i had not taken, and handed it to him, he looked at it and then started going on about the milk not being on it and I was lost for words. I felt so embarrassed at everyone looking and couldn't properly defend myself.

I said it was a mistake that i only put the milk in the carrier bag as it would have fallen off the stroller, and that I couldn't carry a basket and push my sleeping son at the same time. But he was so aggressive and didn't listen at all.. He then just grabbed the milk and walked off. I still wanted the milk (it was actually what I'd gone in for) and was about to pay but he just left. I was almost in tears and just walked out.

It was a genuine error and I feel it should have been handled better. I told my husband when I came home and said I want to go back and officially complain, but he said as I didn't pay its my fault and better to just drop it. AIBU to ask for a manager tomorrow & make a complaint? Or should I just leave it? I can't stop thinking that maybe someone I knew saw me there and thinks I'm a shop lifter. I feel sick..

My husband however said to just forget it and go back there to shop again if I want to, as I've nothing to hide, but not to complain over it. He thinks it's best to just act like it didn't happen.

Any advice?

OP posts:
iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 08:56

I’d let it go and write it off as a bad experience, @op even though it does sound as though the security guard went OTT. As you were (unintentionally) shoplifting, I doubt they would be interested in addressing the manner of their security staff.

Off topic, but I’m curious… why do you call the pushchair a ‘stroller’?

TidyingThePantry · 30/03/2025 08:54

Hi OP,

I'll share my story to hopefully make you feel a little better. I have done similar - and to make it worse, my DH worked at the store!

I think the security guard handled it badly, but as others have said, stores are targeted every day for theft and many people become aggressive when confronted.

I was with my two children buying a handful of items and they were doing their typical of asking me millions of questions, walking off to look at the slot machines at the end of the tills (heading in different directions). I was distracted and somehow my payment on the self service till didn't go through.

I didn't realise and walked out. I was intercepted by security guards at the door and a member of staff and was absolutely mortified. They just asked me to follow them back to the till and I paid. It was humiliating, mortifying, embarrassing. But, they were kind - and not because my husband worked there. It is a big store so they wouldn't have realised.

I say forget about it and move on. I doubt the security guard is giving you a second thoughts. You are one of many people he would have intercepted that day.

Superhansrantowindsor · 30/03/2025 08:54

The security guard doesn’t know anything about you other than you put items in your bag without paying. He will see this every day. Yes he perhaps was too shouty but all you can do is chalk it up to experience and don’t go there again. Years ago a friend of mine working as a security guard stopped someone and asked to see a receipt. No argument or anything but because this person was a vicars wife she was ‘humiliated’ etc , made a ranty complaint and ultimately my mate was sacked from a minimum wage job!

MummyJ36 · 30/03/2025 08:54

A good security guard, even when dealing with prolific shoplifters, should not be doing it in an aggressive and humiliating way. He was right to pull you up on it but it in no way means it is ok to be as aggressive as you describe.

As another poster says, I would absolutely feed this back both to the store and their head office. Accept you made a mistake and it was right you were pulled up on that, but the demeanour of the security guard is not acceptable or professional.

Fingernailbiter · 30/03/2025 08:52

Lovelysummerdays · 30/03/2025 08:42

I think I’d have more sympathy with a mother stealing milk than someone stealing a bunch of booze or expensive perfume. Isn’t there a de minimis rule about prosecutions for shoplifting? It is cumulative so can tot it up over time but I think you’d have to go steal milk every week for years.

Does that make it all right? You think someone who only steals low-value items should just be allowed to get on with it? How odd.

It’s not that OP was desperate because she couldn’t afford milk for her baby - she had other items she was willing to pay for, including chocolate. (But in this instance I accept OP was not intentionally stealing.)

travelallthetime · 30/03/2025 08:51

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 30/03/2025 08:17

Why go shopping if you cannot use a basket? Take your son home and go back with 2 free hands, or get your husband to help.
How much stuff can fit onto the pram hood? Do you have to place it Jenga style, or does random placement create a steadier base upon which to balance stuff?
Are groceries in Lidl harder to balance on the pram than those in Tesco? I ask because you mention where you were shopping in relation to where you usually go. Or do you think you wouldn't be accused of shoplifting if you'd done the same thing in Tesco?
How do other women manage to manoeuvre a basket and pram? Is their anyone IRL you could ask to demonstrate?
You need a strategy to prevent recurrence

My eyes are rolling back so hard at this I can barely see

RatedDoingMagic · 30/03/2025 08:51

Let it go.
You know it was a mistake. You know it was just tiredness.
The security guy didn't know, and deals with actual shoplifters all the time, and from his pov there wasn't much difference. He didn't make a mistake, you did. But it's ok. There's no long term consequences and you'll be more careful in future. Let it be water under the bridge.

TinyTheresa · 30/03/2025 08:51

Soontobe60 · 30/03/2025 08:47

They have - Lidl and Aldi have small baskets on wheels that can be pulled along one handed whilst the other hand pushed the trolley. Alternatively, I’ve seen baskets on the trolley hood, or even on the actual child!

I had a vision of a trolley that the mum wheels the pram on to, then the whole thing can be pushed, with space somewhere for the shopping.

What would a disabled mum be doing? How do they manage the situation? Often that's where the innovation lies.

TappyGilmore · 30/03/2025 08:49

I’d probably frame it as “feedback” rather than a complaint. It sounds like the security guard could have handled it differently. But you effectively were shoplifting so it’s not really reasonable to complain about having been called out on that.

Catapultaway · 30/03/2025 08:49

I'd put it down to experience OP. I absolutely believe you didn't do it on purpose, but from the stores perspective I get the security guard will hear this line from practically every person every time they are caught.
Give it a few weeks and you will be sharing it as a funny story.

Gundogday · 30/03/2025 08:48

Definitely complain about the aggressiveness of the situation, although acknowledge that you were in the wrong, even though it was accidental.

Soontobe60 · 30/03/2025 08:47

TinyTheresa · 30/03/2025 08:42

Maybe the staff should be coming up with a solution for how the hell mums with prams can shop?!

They have - Lidl and Aldi have small baskets on wheels that can be pulled along one handed whilst the other hand pushed the trolley. Alternatively, I’ve seen baskets on the trolley hood, or even on the actual child!

Soontobe60 · 30/03/2025 08:45

TwinklyBird · 30/03/2025 05:22

The OP wasn’t shoplifting. Inadvertently or not.

Shoplifting comes under the Theft Act 1968.
“A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it”

The word intention is right there. You can’t inadvertently intend to do something!

The security guard was in the wrong and even if he suspected the OP was shoplifting he is not a judge or magistrate, or even the police, it’s not his call to make and there was no need to be aggressive.

Yeah he might be sick of people stealing but that doesn’t mean he gets to shout at the OP. In my line of work, I get sick of people turning up late for appointments but I don’t shout at them in front of a waiting room full of people!

How could she prove that she had ‘no intention of permanently depriving the other’ of the milk, which she had put in a bag with shopping she had bought from another shop instead of keeping it with the rest of her shopping?
I went into Tesco yesterday and picked up a potted plant from the stand outside before entering. I put the plant in the front end of the trolley. I then did a big scan and shop so by the end the trolley was pretty full. As I put the shopping in my car I saw the plant and realised I hadn’t scanned it so returned to the store and paid for it.
If I had been stopped I could argue that I had not attempted to steal it as it wasn’t concealed. The OP concealed the milk amongst other shopping so I would argue that she would find it hard to prove her innocence. It would be interesting to see the CCTV recording of the encounter with the security guard though.

Fingernailbiter · 30/03/2025 08:45

TinyTheresa · 30/03/2025 08:40

It also might be a cry for help.

Oh for goodness sake. If someone stole from you, would you consider that’s ok because it might be a "cry for help"?

And don’t tell me OP might have been desperately short of money and unable to afford milk for her child (even if she had hidden the milk intentionally, which I accept she didn’t). She says she had chocolate she was willing to pay for.

mummyh2016 · 30/03/2025 08:45

BallerinaRadio · 30/03/2025 07:41

I imagine the security guard deals with 'accidental' shoplifters multiple times a day and just doesn't have the patience to listen to another 'but I was going to pay for it honest' story anymore.

Plus whenever I read a story like this I imagine the aggression of the security guard is embellished, or you felt he was more aggressive because of the situation.

Shoplifting is rife at the minute, especially with prams and things being put in bags so I'd just maybe not complain and use it to be more careful next time which it sounds like you will be

This. Its always a mistake apparently.

Leafy74 · 30/03/2025 08:44

TinyTheresa · 30/03/2025 08:42

Maybe the staff should be coming up with a solution for how the hell mums with prams can shop?!

That is, and I'm pretty certain you know this, a different issue.

TinyTheresa · 30/03/2025 08:42

Leafy74 · 30/03/2025 08:36

Some people on this thread seem to believe that the rules should be different for a mum with a pram

That really does women a disservice.

Maybe the staff should be coming up with a solution for how the hell mums with prams can shop?!

Lovelysummerdays · 30/03/2025 08:42

Fingernailbiter · 30/03/2025 08:33

I was feeling won over by your point of view until I got to Even if you were a Mum stealing milk so what.

It would be theft, that’s what.

I think I’d have more sympathy with a mother stealing milk than someone stealing a bunch of booze or expensive perfume. Isn’t there a de minimis rule about prosecutions for shoplifting? It is cumulative so can tot it up over time but I think you’d have to go steal milk every week for years.

TinyTheresa · 30/03/2025 08:40

Fingernailbiter · 30/03/2025 08:33

I was feeling won over by your point of view until I got to Even if you were a Mum stealing milk so what.

It would be theft, that’s what.

It also might be a cry for help.

Leafy74 · 30/03/2025 08:40

if you intend to pay you aren’t committing theft.

I'm pretty certain there's a very good reason that this phrase isn't in The Theft Act 1968.

jolies1 · 30/03/2025 08:39

MugsyBalonz · 30/03/2025 02:40

I would complain. I used to work on retail and the law says that an offence is commited when you take goods with the intention of permanently depriving the owner of them. In every shop I ever worked in, this was when you physically left the store as that point of crossing the shop threshold was when it was clear you weren't going to pay - so many times we'd have a shoplifter in and security weren't allowed to touch them until they passed through the doors as up until that moment they still had the opportunity to pay for the goods they were carrying.

The security guard was over-zealous and heavy handed, he also had no right to search your bags without your consent even if you had been shoplifting - legally he could detain you but if he wanted your bags searched and you refused then he'd have to call the police to do it.

Yes.

We would handle this if we spotted it by saying “So sorry I think you’ve forgotten the milk on your pram.” So they can pay for it and avoid a scene. Can’t approach or apprehend them for shoplifting until they’ve left the store.

johnd2 · 30/03/2025 08:39

Lovelysummerdays · 30/03/2025 08:35

I’d disagree with this as there is a mental element to theft, if you intend to pay you aren’t committing theft. There’s a costa coffee machine on the way into Tescos. I often buy a drink and have it on the way to the till. They are made at drinkable temperature. So it’d be tepid if you waited.

It’s not theft, I have every intention to pay. I want to pay for it as I get a meal deal so it’s cheaper with a coffee than without!

Its never been an issue.

I never said it was likely to be "an issue" or otherwise.
You can disagree all you like but I'm just quoting the legal position on consuming food in a supermarket before you have paid.
It's not hard to Google if you don't believe me.

Leafy74 · 30/03/2025 08:36

Some people on this thread seem to believe that the rules should be different for a mum with a pram

That really does women a disservice.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 30/03/2025 08:36

Lovelysummerdays · 30/03/2025 08:35

I’d disagree with this as there is a mental element to theft, if you intend to pay you aren’t committing theft. There’s a costa coffee machine on the way into Tescos. I often buy a drink and have it on the way to the till. They are made at drinkable temperature. So it’d be tepid if you waited.

It’s not theft, I have every intention to pay. I want to pay for it as I get a meal deal so it’s cheaper with a coffee than without!

Its never been an issue.

The tomato poster was expecting a freebie

Lovelysummerdays · 30/03/2025 08:35

johnd2 · 30/03/2025 07:56

Technically eating food in a supermarket that even if you intend to pay for later is theft, as you are treating it as your own when it's not.
(It's not like a restaurant where you are supposed to eat and then pay.)

I’d disagree with this as there is a mental element to theft, if you intend to pay you aren’t committing theft. There’s a costa coffee machine on the way into Tescos. I often buy a drink and have it on the way to the till. They are made at drinkable temperature. So it’d be tepid if you waited.

It’s not theft, I have every intention to pay. I want to pay for it as I get a meal deal so it’s cheaper with a coffee than without!

Its never been an issue.