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Accused of shoplifting after mistake. Should I complain?

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MARG07 · 30/03/2025 02:24

Tonight I went to Lidl which I go occasionally to (I'm not a regular shopper there and prefer Tesco, but I was shopping near it and popped into get a few items) I was pushing my 2 year old son in a push chair. He was asleep, and I had the hood pulled all the way down on the stroller. I got yogurts and put them on the hood (I was only getting a few things and couldn't get a trolley or basket as I was pushing my son) then i got milk and realising it would fall off the hood as there was already stuff on it (as it wasn't folded up but pulled all the way down) because he was asleep, in a split second I put it in a carrier bag I had at the side of the pushchair on a clip. Stupid I know but I wasn't thinking.

I then got two birthday cards and some chocolate and placed them on the hood as they were small and would not fall off, and proceeded to the check out. I didn't sleep well and was exhausted also. I was in a queue and by the time my turn came I paid for everything and began to walk out, as I was putting the stuff in the bag I suddenly saw the milk and remembered it, but before I could do anything, an aggressive security man began to shout at me and proceeded to accuse me of stealing. He pulled out all the items i had, including stuff I'd purchased minutes before in another shop and kept shouting to give it all back. (One or two items they sold too) I had a receipt for the stuff from another shop, and kept telling him to look at it. He just kept ranting and rifling through all my stuff though really really aggressively. Everyone was staring and another customer came over with my receipt which i had not taken, and handed it to him, he looked at it and then started going on about the milk not being on it and I was lost for words. I felt so embarrassed at everyone looking and couldn't properly defend myself.

I said it was a mistake that i only put the milk in the carrier bag as it would have fallen off the stroller, and that I couldn't carry a basket and push my sleeping son at the same time. But he was so aggressive and didn't listen at all.. He then just grabbed the milk and walked off. I still wanted the milk (it was actually what I'd gone in for) and was about to pay but he just left. I was almost in tears and just walked out.

It was a genuine error and I feel it should have been handled better. I told my husband when I came home and said I want to go back and officially complain, but he said as I didn't pay its my fault and better to just drop it. AIBU to ask for a manager tomorrow & make a complaint? Or should I just leave it? I can't stop thinking that maybe someone I knew saw me there and thinks I'm a shop lifter. I feel sick..

My husband however said to just forget it and go back there to shop again if I want to, as I've nothing to hide, but not to complain over it. He thinks it's best to just act like it didn't happen.

Any advice?

OP posts:
daisychain01 · 30/03/2025 09:36

MugsyBalonz · 30/03/2025 02:40

I would complain. I used to work on retail and the law says that an offence is commited when you take goods with the intention of permanently depriving the owner of them. In every shop I ever worked in, this was when you physically left the store as that point of crossing the shop threshold was when it was clear you weren't going to pay - so many times we'd have a shoplifter in and security weren't allowed to touch them until they passed through the doors as up until that moment they still had the opportunity to pay for the goods they were carrying.

The security guard was over-zealous and heavy handed, he also had no right to search your bags without your consent even if you had been shoplifting - legally he could detain you but if he wanted your bags searched and you refused then he'd have to call the police to do it.

In every shop I ever worked in, this was when you physically left the store as that point of crossing the shop threshold was when it was clear you weren't going to pay

that's one interpretation of the law but it isn't the only one.

How you take goods is the crucial point.

There are ways a person can commit the crime of shoplifting other than leaving the store with stolen goods.

For example they can move the item or exercise control over it in a way that's inconsistent with the shop owner's reasonable expectations about how shoppers will handle merchandise.

Putting items in or on a child's buggy is notoriously used to conceal goods.

Stores rarely take the benefit of the doubt view nowadays due to the increase in shoplifting.

The best you can do is make certain you don't put yourself into a position where there is doubt about your honesty and integrity. Think about how you might come across to others if you put things on the hood of the buggy - you may know 100% that you don't mean to shoplift, but nobody else does. Just don't do it anymore especially if you're sleep-deprived. It's no defence in law.

RosesAndHellebores · 30/03/2025 09:35

Many, many years ago, I found two pairs of Wolford tights in the buggy when DS was about 18 months. I took them back to the shop and explained. They thought it was hilarious.

such a shame they weren't my size or colour only joking.

Keha · 30/03/2025 09:33

I think it would be reasonable to complain about his attitude. Id start by apologizing re the milk and saying you understood the need for him to speak to you, however you felt his tone and approach was really off.

CantStopMoving · 30/03/2025 09:32

Oioisavaloy27 · 30/03/2025 09:30

Do you not think a lot of shoplifters come out with the same story?

But again, irrelevant. You can’t accuse someone of shoplifting if they haven’t done the offence. They can stop someone and politely ask has everything been paid for before they leave and suggest that they think something hasn’t and that it would be a good idea to go pay for it. Alternatively they can wait for the person to walk out and then accuse them.

Dodeedoo · 30/03/2025 09:32

The posters who have said you were shoplifting are talking shite. You have to have the intent to commit theft and you didn’t have it. You did not commit a crime, you made an honest mistake!!
Defo complain.. the security guard sounds like a job pissed bully!!!

JillAndJenTheFlowerpotMen · 30/03/2025 09:32

Two things simultaneously true here: you’re tired, distracted, have no intention to shoplift and make a mistake. The security guard is under pressure to reduce losses from the store, sees someone use a classic shoplifting technique, and is right to intervene. He has no idea if you’re genuine or if you’re one of the dozens of people per day chancing it. I expect he’s operating in hyper-vigilant mode as the ‘take someone aside gently discreetly’ method is just exploited by the people he tries to stop, who may be aggressive or do a runner.

So I don’t think anyone’s unreasonable. Sleep deprivation is rubbish. Clock it up to bad luck and move on.

Kandalama · 30/03/2025 09:30

CantStopMoving · 30/03/2025 09:28

Yes but irrelevant- she has to have left the shop for the offence to have occurred. If he stopped her inside, she just has to say, oh I was just about to pay for that and go and pay.

Not technically in the UK
If it’s considered the item was concealed with the intent to steal then that’s all that’s needed.
However
Its harder to prove.

iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 09:30

@Kandalamahe was doing his job correctly. He was challenging someone who was trying to leave the shop with goods they hadn’t paid for.

Which is the whole point and purpose of his job and what he is at work to do.

Oioisavaloy27 · 30/03/2025 09:30

CantStopMoving · 30/03/2025 09:28

Yes but irrelevant- she has to have left the shop for the offence to have occurred. If he stopped her inside, she just has to say, oh I was just about to pay for that and go and pay.

Do you not think a lot of shoplifters come out with the same story?

PopeJoan2 · 30/03/2025 09:29

I once got home from a transatlantic trip to discover a couple of items amongst my souvenirs and realised that they must have fallen into my bag when I had been browsing at the airport shops. I was mortified because I had gone on a whole flight with “stolen” items in my bag. No alarm went off as I left the store. If it had it would have been so embarrassing as who would have believed that the items just “fell into” my bag?

I didn’t think to mail the items to the store and kept them (they were rather lovely keyrings). I am now thinking that I definitely should have posted them back.

Kandalama · 30/03/2025 09:29

iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 09:24

@YourAzureEagle

Whatevs.

I think most reasonable people will agree that being a security guard ain’t a profession, regardless of what your dictionary says.

It’s not a profession
you can however have a code of conduct without being in a profession

CantStopMoving · 30/03/2025 09:28

Oioisavaloy27 · 30/03/2025 09:27

She had already paid for all the other stuff and was leaving.

Yes but irrelevant- she has to have left the shop for the offence to have occurred. If he stopped her inside, she just has to say, oh I was just about to pay for that and go and pay.

RosesAndHellebores · 30/03/2025 09:28

Oioisavaloy27 · 30/03/2025 09:23

Do you know how many woman use children and buggies to shoplift? The op is being entitled!

Edited

To nick a £1.50 pint of milk, whilst spending another tenner on non essentials? Don't they have the sense to nick stuff worth nicking?

I went to Tesco yesterday. Very discreetly, in the corner of the door, were two policemen with a chap in the corner. He was cuffed. No shouting, no drama, no spectacle.

The guard was out of order imo. There was no need to shout.

MummyJ36 · 30/03/2025 09:28

iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 09:00

@MummyJ36you say the security guard was ‘unprofessional’. Being a security guard is not a ‘profession’. It’s long hours on your feet, with not much happening a lot of the time, on the minimum wage.

So are a lot of jobs but that doesn’t give you a free pass to be aggressive and humiliate someone. He will have undergone training like everyone else, he won’t have wandered in off the street, and I doubt part of the training was what was described in the OP.

Any job you are doing and being paid for requires a level of professionalism that I don’t think was displayed on this occasion. That’s why I said OP should feed back, not necessarily complain, that the way this was handled was upsetting and unprofessional.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 30/03/2025 09:27

RosesAndHellebores · 30/03/2025 09:18

Grin oops!

The aldi security guy may have been slightly confused!

Whoarethoseguys · 30/03/2025 09:27

I can understand your distress but you can't complain because even though it was a mistake you did almost walk out without paying for the milk. He could have handled it better but he was doing the job he was paid for. He could have called the police on you and many shops do this for every incidence.
I would avoid going on the shop again though

Oioisavaloy27 · 30/03/2025 09:27

CantStopMoving · 30/03/2025 09:25

She hadn’t left the shop! How could she have shoplifted if she still was in the shop? There is no process of ‘shoplifting’ whilst in the store. You either have committed shoplifting or you haven’t and that requires you to have fulfilled all the legal criteria of the offence which includes having stepped outside the store. Even then there is the intent to do the offence to prove.

She had already paid for all the other stuff and was leaving.

CantStopMoving · 30/03/2025 09:25

Chuchoter · 30/03/2025 09:20

Excuses, excuses, excuses!

You were shoplifting.

She hadn’t left the shop! How could she have shoplifted if she still was in the shop? There is no process of ‘shoplifting’ whilst in the store. You either have committed shoplifting or you haven’t and that requires you to have fulfilled all the legal criteria of the offence which includes having stepped outside the store. Even then there is the intent to do the offence to prove.

Kandalama · 30/03/2025 09:24

YourAzureEagle · 30/03/2025 09:22

If they conduct illegal searches and breach the terms of their licence, yes!!

Absolutely agree @YourAzureEagle if he’s incapable of doing the job properly he shouldn’t be doing it.

No one would employ someone who can’t do the job

iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 09:24

@YourAzureEagle

Whatevs.

I think most reasonable people will agree that being a security guard ain’t a profession, regardless of what your dictionary says.

ScaryM0nster · 30/03/2025 09:24

The way you want them to handle shop lifting is to make it subtle and with no public awareness of it.

That doesn’t work as a deterrent.

This is one you need to suck up. If you make a mistake that’s going to lead to shop lifting then you accept that’s humiliating.

(at least they did it before you left, otherwise you’d have actually committed the crime).

LIZS · 30/03/2025 09:24

Unless it comes with an unreserved apology for your oversight, forget a complaint about the security guard’s attitude. You may have only overlooked milk but they will see similar theft and excuses all day every day.

Oioisavaloy27 · 30/03/2025 09:23

RosesAndHellebores · 30/03/2025 09:13

The guard's conduct was totally unacceptable. Complain. He probably broke the code of conduct for his security licence. Ask Aldi if he has one and if so report him to the SIA unless Aldi profusely apologise and reassure you he will get extra training.

It was a pint of milk. Surely if you were a genuine thief, you wouldn't risk prosecution for a pint of milk? He knew it was a mistake I imagine and decided to bully a vulnerable woman with a baby.

Do you know how many woman use children and buggies to shoplift? The op is being entitled!

YourAzureEagle · 30/03/2025 09:22

iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 09:19

@YourAzureEagle

You are advocating to get someone sacked for doing his job? Someone who works long hours on the minimum wage. Nice.

Its little wonder no one wants to work these days.

If they conduct illegal searches and breach the terms of their licence, yes!!

YourAzureEagle · 30/03/2025 09:21

iseethembloom · 30/03/2025 09:14

@YourAzureEagle

you wrote,
’Whilst technically not a profession under the old definition of such’

imagine then that I was referring to what you called ‘the old definition of such’

Every job, however lowly and unskilled, has an umbrella organisation overseeing it.

Indeed, but the word "professional" is commonly used in terms of conduct or standards regardless of whether the job itself is considered a profession.

From OED, one of several definitions that can be applied:

Professional

a person competent or skilled in a particular activity.
"she was a real professional on stage"

So, if we apply that, we are to assume the guard is "competent and skilled" as he will have to have undergone an SIA course and been accredited, but he fell short of his trade associations standards and was therefore unprofessional in his conduct.

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